Utah high school football coaches frustrated that many schools have passed over prospects

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  • So-CalAggie Park City, Ut
    Feb. 11, 2014 10:51 p.m.

    "the Gary Andersen model"? Yea well how many Utah kids did Gary recruit this year? I'm sorry, but last I checked all three of the coaches mentioned in this article seem pretty successful, I think they know what they are doing.

  • carman Wasatch Front, UT
    Feb. 5, 2014 8:55 p.m.

    If a kid has the chance to go to Stanford or Utah, that decision is a no-brainer. At least BYU has a unique value proposition. Utah is just another state school, and its academics generally aren't as good as many schools, like Stanford, that they compete with. Utah is also having a tough time recruiting the best students. Even BYU seems to be winning on that front locally...

  • Herby Hurricane, UT
    Feb. 5, 2014 8:43 p.m.

    To recruit outside the state to be diversified, (this is what I am getting from some other posts) is a big mistake. More athletes from out of state would want to come and play with BYU if they were any good. But the fact is, they are not good, therefore, less people want to play for them. They would actually be able to reach a greater "diversified" group of people if they would just focus on winning.

  • Tenn12 Orem, UT
    Feb. 5, 2014 8:39 p.m.

    TX football, The state of Utah needs to stop crying? What is the state crying about exactly?
    I too believe there are a lot of kids that can play division one ball that were overlooked. However, those kids can do what many others have done in years past and go to a good JC and get picked up by a major division one school after a couple years.

  • VariedHue Logan, UT
    Feb. 5, 2014 7:24 p.m.

    There were 10 players who signed with out-of-state D1 programs also. And it is true that Weber State and SUU are also D1. As for BYU, they have two years to recruit 2014 graduates so we just have to wait and see what happens.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 5, 2014 6:39 p.m.

    It goes two ways.

    Some Utah preps went to Wisconsin, Stanford, and Oklahoma.

    You do what you think is best.

  • TX Football Allen, TX
    Feb. 5, 2014 12:15 p.m.

    The State of Utah needs to stop crying. BYU is getting an Allen, TX recruit in Tejan Koroma (not Trejan). Allen (High School), TX won the Texas 5A, Div I state championship for the second year in a row and was ranked No. 1 in two national polls and 2nd in the nation overall. However, they only have five D-1 recruits. There is just a lot of talent out there that is better than Utah. Tejan was named first team all state for two years in row. Hopefully my son will be a Texas D-1 recruit going to a Utah based school in the future. If not its because there is a lot of talent.

  • Trironman South Jordan, UT
    Feb. 5, 2014 11:47 a.m.

    Coach Hamilton and Peck are right on. Even ESPN stated earlier this year that Utah ranks 13 among high school talent and is a MUST recruit state. If you look among the JC ranks, you will see a lot of Utah players that were initially overlooked and landed scholarships in major programs after their first year.
    The impact that missions have with those players that choose also needs to be considered. A young man can sign, he then serves a mission, then decides to change his mind where he wants to go. After 18 months, there is no NCAA rule that prevents him from going elsewhere. Interesting dynamic that Colleges need to consider.

  • DRay Roy, UT
    Feb. 5, 2014 11:40 a.m.

    How many recruits from Utah has Gary Anderson snatched up for Wisconsin, 2014?

  • Shawnm750 West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 5, 2014 11:26 a.m.

    @Scores - " The best team in the state is the one who performs best all season long, goes to a bowl game and wins more than they lose."

    Well, when you're playing lousy teams, all the wins in the world don't matter. Yeah, BYU's record was great this year, but look at what happened in their bowl game... The same goes for their basketball program. Sure they're killing it against WCC teams, but any time a real opponent comes to town, they get spanked. Utah's football record may have been lousy this year, but they also had arguably the toughest schedule in the country. They played 5 top 25 ranked teams, and lost their starting QB along the way. And most of those were pretty close games too.

    It's like that episode of Seinfeld when Kramer touted being the best in his karate class. Sure he beat everyone else...but "everyone else" was a bunch of 8-year-olds...

  • TiCon2 Cedar City, UT
    Feb. 5, 2014 10:52 a.m.

    I think the timing is right for Utah Valley to say they're glad they never took up football.

  • DMJ Newbury Park, CA
    Feb. 5, 2014 10:08 a.m.

    Utah parents and Coaches--Get off your high horses and realize that the top high school athletes come from outside of your state and the the practice of recruiting heavily within Utah is the formula for mediocrity-- a current case in point,BYU basketball.

  • lixircat Indianapolis, IN
    Feb. 5, 2014 9:49 a.m.

    All these programs have always secretly hated all Utah high schools and now they have the chance to let it show. I've even heard that the University of Utah is moving all of its students, faculty, and buildings to California. There's even plans to transport the U right off the mountain!

    Maybe, just maybe, these universities found better players in other states.
    Chill out.

  • Lightening Lad Austin , TX
    Feb. 5, 2014 7:07 a.m.

    Rock On, it's too easy to spot an Uggies apologist. I know BYU stole your color, USU invented Blue and they mess with your missionaries. Boo Hoo U-S-U. BYU and Utah players are much higher rated and it shows in the win column. What were the scores from 2013 between USU and Utah or BYU, I keep forgetting?

  • red rocks Saint George, UT
    Feb. 5, 2014 6:39 a.m.

    I find it funny that coaches are complaining about players being overlooked by the college coaches for someone they think is better. Don't these same High School coaches do the same thing. They pick the best players that they can possibly get. Parents are always complaining about the coaches and who is not playing.

  • KimmyP Granstville, UT
    Feb. 5, 2014 6:05 a.m.

    After being known as the "pipeline to Provo", Peck now whines that Utah and Utah State have gone elsewhere for recruits. The deciding factor on whether he has fewer D1 kids this year is the fact Bronco passed on all of those Peck sent him.

  • MileHighCougarFan Brighton, CO
    Feb. 4, 2014 10:00 p.m.

    3 Facts that make a difference that the Utah HS coaches don't get.
    1) Rules regarding offering scholarships have changed ( thanks to SEC, etc. over offering, knowing kids will become ineligible, get arrested, etc.) so the total number has decreased.
    2) Mission age change completely changed the dynamic for RMs and will take a couple of years to flush out.
    3) So far, recruiting Utah kids has not led to a National championship in recent history.. (Definiton of insanity: doing same thing over and over and expecting different result.) BYU wants a national championship and needs best athletes to make it happen.

  • Braxton ogden, ut
    Feb. 4, 2014 9:35 p.m.

    Wake up to reality Utah. All parents think their kid should play D1... And most high school coaches like Peck and Hamilton live in a bubble. The recruiting hot bed for FBS is Florida, Georgia, Texas and California. These states produce 200 to 300 D1 every year while the standard in Utah, Colorado, Arizona, Idaho, Nevada, produce 30 to 35 each year. If your kid wants to play offensive line at a FBS...typically 6'5, 280 lbs, running 5.0 40 is the guideline coaches look for. How many of these kids does Utah have. I will agree that Weber and SUU can fill there rosters with local talent and they should. SUU does and that is why they own Weber at this point, but if Utah, USU and BYU want to compete in there conference then they need to look outside of Utah. By the way, there are only 8 Utah kids playing on PAC 12 rosters (excluding Utah)...go figure.

  • SportsFan1 South Jordan, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 9:31 p.m.

    This is a great article and Coach Peck is an expert recruiting in the State of Utah and outside of the state.

  • Scores Idaho Falls, ID
    Feb. 4, 2014 9:18 p.m.

    Adwight....how many games did Utah win this past season? I don't care where the kids come from as long as they can PLAY FOOTBALL, keep the rules and get a quality education, which they will get at BYU if they put in the time and work at it. The best team in the state is the one who performs best all season long, goes to a bowl game and wins more than they lose. Both BYU and Utah State did that this year. Not Utah.

  • NeilT Clearfield, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 6:23 p.m.

    I thought Weber State specifically hired Coach Hill to recruit instate athletes. Why no mention of Weber and SUU? If any school is desperately in need of talent it is Weber. And what about SUU hiring Crowton. Say what want about him he is still one of the top offensive coordinators in the country having coached at Oregon and LSU. I would consider SUU if I was a recruit. What wasn't mentioned is why a player might choose to go out of state. Could it be more academics than sports. A scholarship to a school like Stanford would be hard to turn down. Especially if a student has ambitions to further their education at a graduate level. Go Aggies. Look forward to next year. And hopefully Utah will pick up a few more wins in close games.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 6:23 p.m.

    I'm going to throw this out there. If you want a DB, you go outside of Utah, pure and simple. If you want a top-flight WR, you probably do the same. Sorry, speed kills and Utah preps don't have it generally. Utah does produce some good linemen, LB's and maybe some safeties and RB's. But I would bet a good deal of the skill players all the schools have come from out of state. And since McMahon, the only in-state QB BYU ever had that was decent was Doman himself. Except in rare occassions, and yes there are these occasions, one has probably go out of state to get that blue chip recruit whether it be Keeton, Hill, Wilson or whoever. The amount of Utah prep recruits is probably about right, probably too much if anything.

  • Jefe-Ute SLC, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 6:15 p.m.

    Gotta add that triple comment that if these coaches want their kids to be recruited by Universities in the state of Utah, then they need to tell their kids to play for the Universities in the state of Utah. It's ridiculous that Utah was the "dream" for some of these kids and now that others are recognizing their talent, they jump ship to other Universities. If the instate Universities were able to catch all of these high ranked players each year, I think the teams would be a different story. Just take a look at a new coach and some good in state recruits for the Utes bball. As a side note, Utah football might be in trouble if they can't get these good recruits from the last few years to perform this year. This recruiting class is getting pathetic.

  • rlsintx Plano, TX
    Feb. 4, 2014 6:01 p.m.

    A scholarship isn't the mark of a good football player, and the real players will walk on and find a place on a team. Happens all the time. There is no entitlement to a d-1 scholarship just because you're a star on one of the top 10 programs in a (smallish) state. It's a fallacy, no matter how much it may reflect poorly on what a H.S. coach may have been telling his players encouraging them for years. Best Wishes to all these kids at finding a place to play ball if they're convinced they can play in college, they're apparently going to have to fight their way on.

  • lefty200 kaysville, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 5:39 p.m.

    Trying not to take sides in this issue is difficult... what this article is stating is co-insiding with the high school coach... the writer may have made some good points, HOWEVER.... have you looked at it from the University's point of view. Example.... a university has five great tackles coming back in one position. but.. is loosing a speedster half back. Point.. the university coach is going to hunt to replace the speedster... the high school coach has a great tackle, not being recruited. It's just the nature of the game... replace first... the position that is needed filling... if there are no speedsters in high school to fill the gap.. sorry mr. high school coach... your tackle doesn't get recruited. Unfortunate , u-bet, but a reality of life. already mentioned is the league you play in and calibre of player need for your league..
    look at Weber, Suu, or Dixie... They could play there to develope the talant they want to show.

  • JD Books Sulphurdale, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 4:13 p.m.

    These recruiter should give the 2A talent a look. There are some unpolished diamonds available at some of these smaller schools.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 4:01 p.m.

    Fair enough.

    I don't have recruiting experience but I personally know two players that were recruited by BYU. Kavika Fonua who played for Syracuse HS is a family friend and played with two of my nephews, and Jordon Preator who played for Fremont HS and is my best friend's son. Both had nothing but good things to say about their recruiters (especially Nick Howell) and how well they were treated. Both ended up signing for BYU, Kavika this year and Jordon last year. So my personal experience doesn't match your experience, but I'm not close to recruiting everyday like you are. I have heard some players say BYU didn't respect them or treat them well, but I've heard that as much about Utah...so is it the school or the player in that situation? I don't know...but both the examples I gave loved their recruiting process with BYU.

  • Man of Sports Draper, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 3:52 p.m.

    @Cougsndawgs - I think there are MANY other positions on the field besides LB. I hope Kelly Poppinga would do a better job recruiting DLineman. BYU was horrible last season and with what is coming back will be awful again this coming season.

  • Amazed Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 3:50 p.m.

    Doesn't the other headline about the National Champion Lone Peak starters choosing missions over NCAA athletics get into the mix just a little? Second year of the 18 yr olds - last season money and time had already been invested in recruiting before October Conference through a wrench in the machine. I'm interested in seeing how the recruiting process goes for RM's next year - in addition to current crop. And please, don't hate on me for an "assumption" that all FB players are LDS. I don't think anyone can provide a definitive answer yet - as to the effect of 18 year old eligibility and the D1 athlete.

  • Tenn12 Orem, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 3:42 p.m.

    You are right. Others like me have had the same experience you have. That will catch up to him eventually.

  • Coolio SLC, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 3:12 p.m.

    Well, whoever BYU and Utah have been recruiting the past few years it's not working.

  • adwight AMERICAN FORK, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 2:53 p.m.

    Cougsndawgs: Being someone who is close to recruiting every day I can tell you that BYU treats in state players like garbage. I know many recruits who were turned off by BYU's recruiting process and the way that they treat the players that they recruit. I'm not saying that it isn't a good thing that BYU is trying to have a broader reach. But there are plenty of players in state who are just as talented as other states that BYU needs to start getting. But they are pushing those players away through the way they recruit them. 3 in state recruits this year, 5 last year. Only getting that number of players from your own state is going to end up biting BYU in the rear end. They need to be getting the best talent in the state to play for them. Right now it simply is not happening.

  • CodyCougar Madison, SD
    Feb. 4, 2014 2:52 p.m.

    Take a chill pill locals. Your sense of entitlement is alarming. BYU isn't a state school, it is a national school with a national student population. Utahn's have no more right to be there than anyone else. It doesn't matter where players are from, if Bronco thinks they fit the bill, then they are welcome with open arms. He also has to juggle missions, honor code and academic qualifications that other schools don't. The stadium will still fill, and TV sets will still be turned to Cougar games.

  • plyxply SLC, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 2:36 p.m.

    Taters, I have coached at the high school level in 5A for many years, have had my own sons recruited by the in-state colleges as well as numerous other players.
    Currently I have coached players at every college in the state and have talked with each of the recruiters from USU, Utah, Weber, and BYU and have heard what each have said to our players. That would be how.

  • Bored to the point of THIS! Ogden, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 2:23 p.m.

    I'm not sure what the intent of this story was?

    Schools recruit the best kids for their programs needs! If they don't need a QB, they're not going to recruit one. They recruit the best kids for their needs, which means some kids are forced to go out of state, or accept lower division offers.

    There are a lot of great high school players, who are just that, great high school players. Utah does get shorted on recruiting, but not for the reason many might think. We have a small population of high school players relative to the rest of the US. A college recruiter can go to the city of Houston, Texas and see more players there, verses scouting and travelling the entire state of Utah.

    Many have called out specific recruiters in these blogs. Sounds personal to me! A recruiters job depends upon the work they do. If guys are keeping there jobs, I'm guessing it's because they are doing their jobs correctly for their programs needs.

    Again, not sure what the point of this article was?

  • pleblian salt lake city, utah
    Feb. 4, 2014 1:21 p.m.

    When the UoU, USU and BYU are all passing on players upon which they have the best local knowledge, one must assume 1 of 3 things:
    1)All three programs coaches are incompetent at every position. (not likely).
    2) The coaches are deliberately snubbing local talent for some mysterious reason.
    3) The local talent was not better than alternative talent this year.

    I'm going to go with #3. Because usually the rational choice is correct.

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 1:17 p.m.

    I think one of the factors that will hurt in state recruiting is the kids themselves. When Utah puts a lot of time and effort into recruiting kids like Schultz and Frison when they were raw talent and flying completely under the radar only to have Stanford and Nebraska come in the final moments and pick them off after Utah helped raise their profile by extending an offer that only lessens the chances that Utah will continue to recruit heavily in Utah. Stanford in particular seems to enjoy letting Utah make offers to Utah kids and do all the evaluating for them and then show up and woo them with a Stanford offer and education. It isn't as though Utah is still playing in the MWC. These kids are getting offers from Utah to play on a big stage in the PAC 12 and then snubbing the local program. Maybe it is time for coaches like Peck to tell their kids to be loyal to the local schools if they want the local schools to continue recruiting the State. What goes around comes around.

  • loganma1 Orem, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 1:11 p.m.

    While BYU is being criticized for not recruiting enough Utah kids it must be remembered that they tried to recruit several of the kids on that list that went elsewhere. Wisconsin, Stanford, Michigan and Utah beat them on some of their desired recruiting targets. BYU did what it needed to do and went out of state to get the same type of kid. Another important point is that some of the kids on that list are not LDS and do not want to go to BYU. Coaches do what they feel they need to do to keep their jobs. Recruiting is a crapshoot. Jake Heaps was a 5-star recruit who was overvalued. Cody Hoffman was a no star recruit. Need I say more. Time will tell who made the best decisions in this recruiting class.

  • tdlawton Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 1:04 p.m.

    A University has only 25 offers to give out to HS and JC recruits each year and some years (like Utah & BYU this year) even a few less than that with returning missionaries and the like.

    Utah as 9 commitments... Nine out of 20-some spots? How can Peck say Utah is not looking at the State of Utah enough? If anything it seems like the Utes are planning on signing more in-state prospects than normal...

    One the other side of the coin the Bingham player that the Utes would have dearly loved to have become a Ute is going out-of-state to Stanford. That is a great school and certainly don't question the young man's right to make his decision, but if Peck "crows" about sending a kid to Stanford. I think it is a two way street, if Peck expects his very best players to "go off to some big name program" he then has some gall to criticize the local Universities for passing on his "next best" players... He sounds like a HS Coach that wants his cake and eat it to, it is not the local college programs job to make him look good.

  • Sports Nutz Smithfield, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 12:59 p.m.

    With Tukuafu committing to the Aggies and yet another in state kid on his way, the Aggies in state numbers will look much better tomorrow. GO AGGIES!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 12:51 p.m.

    Btw, to call Kelly Poppinga a bad recruiter is beyond ridiculous. He brings in big time players at outside linebacker on a consistent basis and this years recruiting class is no exception. Matter of fact I'd wager that linebacker is probably BYUs best recruited position right now overall and I think most people that are fans and follow BYU football would agree with me in that regard. Plyxply...write these names down, Fred Warner & Tyler Cook...and be sure to watch Alani Fua again next year because, while he's been in Van Noys shadow he still made some amazing plays this year and will be a stud next year. And who recruited these guys? You probably won't want to answer that.

  • Ben H Clearfield, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 12:51 p.m.

    I think the timing is right for Utah Valley to start playing football.

  • Eliot Genola, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 12:46 p.m.

    With all due respect, BYU is not a Utah university. It is a university that happens to be in Utah. Given that its student body and alumni hail from all across the nation, and indeed the world, it makes more sense for them to recruit out of state such that their football team is more of a reflection of its student body and alumni. Students and alumni do not want to watch a football team made up almost exclusively of Utah players. Football independence makes it even more desirable to recruit broadly because the majority of road games are not played exclusively in a single region. Coach, if your players are as good as you say they are then they'll get their chance.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 12:23 p.m.

    I don't agree with you that BYU is trying to slough anything off. BYU has turned it's focus and attention out of state, not just in recruiting but in where their athletes and athletic programs compete. They are trying to put their athletic teams all over the country to play from coast to coast as part of their mission and philosophy. Recruiting out of state just follows that philosophy and believe me that will continue. BYU will recruit less and less in state players, not because Utah HS players aren't good but because BYU wants a wider, broader reach and seeks to accomplish that partially through their sports programs. As for Utah and Utah State who have different missions or philosophies (aren't trying to increase exposure to the Mormon faith for instance), I agree they should try and keep as much of the great talent from the state here as they can.

  • DH48 West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 12:14 p.m.

    BYU and Utah have to learn to compete on a bigger stage and it won't happen by recruiting local kids. These kids may look good in local games but they are not the athletes needed to win against top quality athletes. The same Big Fish/Little Pond reality that BYU and Utah have lived with for many years exists in the recruiting game. Utah has gotten a heavy does of this reality since entering in to the PAC 12 and BYU has not exactly fared well since going independent and playing more of the big boys.

    Anyone can do well in one game but to play a heavy weight schedule week after week you need a higher caliber athlete. Very few of those will come from Utah. Take a look at BYU basketball. Athletes are needed to consistently compete.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 12:06 p.m.

    @ plyxply:

    I'm curious as to what your credentials are to know the specifics of recruiting philosophy of each recruiter from each of the instate big schools?
    How exactly is it that you know specifically what Kelly Proppinga "figures" concerning his potential recruits? How and why would he "discourage good players"... as you put it?

    Most of what you're saying is opinion only and should be recognized as such... and nothing else. As a known Ute fan, you obviously have your own bias, and it shows.

    For your info, BYU does NOT have an inability to recruit in-state. They've proven that year-in and year-out by often signing the cream of the in-state crop. They usually have a double digit number of in-state recruits. But as the article made very clear, BYU has an unusually high number of returning missionary athletes coming back, so didn't recruit as many this year. People, and especially critics, shouldn't read too much into that. If it keeps happening, then that's another thing. But not yet.

    Interesting that some of the same critics who previously said BYU should expand recruiting are now saying the opposite.

  • Norcalman Danville, CA
    Feb. 4, 2014 12:03 p.m.

    If this athlete referred to in the article truly is D-1 caliber he should walk onto BYU's team. Look at all the walk-on's who have been very successful. Bronco loves walk-on's and they historically have done well on the team.

  • LVIS Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 12:03 p.m.

    "...that’s the colleges' job to prove me wrong,” said a frustrated Hamilton

    Ha. Not really. They don't have to prove anything to you.

  • adwight AMERICAN FORK, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 11:55 a.m.

    @Shawrim I don't agree with the article. If you want to have in-state success, it all starts with getting the best in state kids. No ifs ands or rationalizations will change that. BYU has struggled immensely these last few years in state and are trying to slough it off as "a focus out of state." They are getting beat out for in state recruits and the trend needs to change.

  • Sports Nutz Smithfield, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 11:51 a.m.

    In the article it said that this is about a normal year. didn't it? What's the big deal? Let's wait and actually see who goes where and then go from there.

  • Gunner South Jordan, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 11:35 a.m.

    How is it sour grapes? Peck has had a large number of kids in recent years get D-1 offers. The coaches know these kids in state better than anybody. Some of those kids that are signing with smaller Utah schools did have some D-1 offers from out of state schools, but decided to stay in state to play. So it has nothing to do with sour grapes. They know which kids have the talent to play at the bigger programs, and they are saying they were overlooked by the big 3 in state schools for kids coming from out of state. I know which kid Peck is referring to that he says is a definite D-1 talent and didn't get 1 offer. And he's absolutely right. The kid would contribute very well at one of the big 3 in state programs. To me it's these schools thinking the grass is greener in other states. Utah thinks now they are PAC 12, they should be getting the 4 and 5 star kids from out of state. But they aren't. Anderson was doing it the right way and it showed with how the program grew.

  • Me, Myself and I The Promised Land, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 11:28 a.m.

    Coach Andersen had it figured out. He has always recruited Utah kids and continues to do so even now he's in Wisconsin. The results there are yet to been seen, but every where else he's been he's had success.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 11:25 a.m.

    BYUs recruiting class on the whole is smaller this year because of the number of kids coming home from missions. Normally they sign more Utah kids, but they just don't have a big recruiting class anyway. The other issue is, who would BYU drop an offer from to take an instate kid this year. The recruits are almost all 3 star guys with a couple four stars...Utah HS just haven't produced that kind of talent this year. I recognize the bias that a HS coach has, but it does sound like sour grapes when your guys just don't measure up to the guys they've already got committed. BYUs recruiting class will be larger next year and that will mean more recruits from the state of Utah.

  • UintaChris South Weber, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 11:24 a.m.

    New Weber HC Jay Hill is committed to recruiting Utah kids, stating recently that he would like to average 60-65% instate recruits. And SUU has been doing a good job of recruiting Utah kids for years. So any quality recruit snubbed by the "Big 3" will be gobbled up by the state's two FCS schools, Weber and SUU.

  • UintaChris South Weber, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 11:14 a.m.

    I get the point of the article, but to be completely accurate, Weber and SUU are D-1. They are in a different sub-division, but are still D-1.

  • Shawnm750 West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 10:55 a.m.

    @adwight - Apparently you didn't see the other DesNews headline then: "BYU's decision to cast a wider recruiting net is refreshing, needed"

  • adwight AMERICAN FORK, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 10:19 a.m.

    If you want to be the best team in the state you need to win the in-state recruiting battle. Utah wins it every year, and have shown they are the best team in the state recently. BYU needs to start looking at in-state kids more and more.

  • Shawnm750 West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 9:55 a.m.

    I appreciate that Coach Peck is trying to make sure his players get into a good college, but he has to accept that all 3 programs have expanded their recruiting areas and that there is a dearth of talent outside of Utah too. I'm sure he does believe that his guys are D-I caliber players, but the truth is that there are probably dozens of D-I level players that get overlooked every year. Truth be told, it seems like a little sour grapes coming from a coach whose team won the state championship, and now he can't point to his program and say that it's translated directly into scholarships...

  • RockOn Spanish Fork, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 9:43 a.m.

    It is statistically insignificant the difference in ave. stars of recruits among the 3 schools. It's a statistic used by prevaracators and propagandists.

  • plyxply SLC, UT
    Feb. 4, 2014 9:32 a.m.

    What BYU and USU are thinking is beyond me. You would think that Coach Wells would want to build on what Anderson built, but I guess he figures he'll do what Brent Guy, John L Smith, and the rest of the poor Aggie coaches have done and recruit away from Utah kids.
    BYU's inability to recruit in-state lies on the shoulders of Kelly Poppinga, possibly the worst recruiter to ever exist. Coach Doman was great with the kids, took time to get to know them, and made them feel wanted. Pogginga on the other hand figures kids should want the honor of playing at BYU and not only does nothing good, he discourages good players.
    Utah has to compete at a different level, yet they still have the most in-state kids signed.