What gets me about this article isn't just the phony war on white boys.
It's the way that the situation is framed and constructed by your reporter
as an us vs them competition. Boys (us) are losing to girls (them) in terms of
educational achievement. Men aren't competing well against women at
university. This is a travesty, a tragedy. A war is on against boys that's
causing this, since boys are naturally smarter than girls. If females are
achieving higher results than males, that is a problem, that is a failure, those
girls are only taking their education and skills into the kitchen and
motherhood. Boys need to do better than girls, otherwise society is failing.
Poyman, I'm an over 60 white male with a great education. Circumstances put
me in the job market 4 years ago and I learned that older white males are also
an unprotected class. Several times, while pursuing high-level
management/consulting positions, I made all the but final cuts (dozens/sometimes
hundreds of applicants and I was one of 2 or 3 finalists) and each time a
younger person, usually a female, was chosen. They were all certainly well
qualified and will excel in the positions, but I am equally qualified. The only
differences were age, gender, and color. Yes, this is limited, anecdotal
evidence...but to me, it's real.But this article is about boys.
We raised three of them and we raised five girls too. Given my experience, I
would say a war on boys is real, but a strong family with vigilant parents can
help the boys win the war. All my boys are doing well...and my girls too...and I
thanks my wife, the church and the Lord.
The real war is on families. As they fail, boys and girls are innocent
casualties (as are some husbands and wives) fed to the fire burning to warm the
gods of selfishness. But those cast into the fire can emerge unscathed if
someone will reach out and show them the way of faith, love and truth. There
are compensating blessings. There are tender mercies. There is hope.
I like how the DNews picks "championship" calibur schools to do these
articles on. It's easy to be great when talent abounds. (Lone Peak, East,
etc...)Why not do a story on a bad, losing program? They have good
kids off the field who do amazing things without the benefits of success on the
field or court in this case. They practice just as hard. They go
to class and make good grades. They are just as spiritual in the area of
religion. They however, have the challenge of not being as talented to address
as well. They are the teams/kids who get clobbered by the loaded DI schools and
yet show up again next week.Life is much easier when you win!
Stories about teams who struggle with victory are not quite as compelling as
stories about those who struggle with defeat.
I would recommend that the first step taken in the "war on boys" is to
feature boys not associated with ANY KIND OF SPORT. There are heroes in every
area of life, not just sports.
Last year I was an LDS Seminary Teacher at Lone Peak and was able to interact
often with these young men. They are better in a spiritual setting then they
were on the court and if you saw them play- that is saying something! At first I
was worried they would have big heads and a bigger ego. I couldn't have
been more wrong. They were humble, kind, considerate men. They are individuals
who cared about others in their class and in their school. They will succeed in
making this world a better place, I have no doubt about that!
It's really disappointing that the academic achievement gap is being looked
at as a "war on boys" rather than an achievement for women. People can
speculate all they want about the reasoning behind men not getting the same
opportunities that women have in education, but don't claim that men are
being suppressed or not given the same rights to academic success. Women make up
nearly 52% of the population as it is, so that could be a contributing factor to
the rise in achievement. PS since when could missionaries be
interviewed while on their missions?
This article contains a lot of propoganda and sexist remarks.
Y-ask-Y and sthmtnman are perfect examples of what is wrong. They unequivocally
deny that there is any problem, and because they say so, it must be true. When
was the last time you saw a show on TV where the father was portrayed as smart?
Granted, there are a couple , but they are the exception, not the rule. This is
symptomatic of our culture, and the war on boys.
How is treating others as equals considered a "war on boys"?
Coolio... I agree!Enough is enough!
There isn't necessarily a war on boys as much as there is a war on minority
boys. If the data were examined more closely the big differences are in
minority boys. While more minority women go on to college (mostly community
colleges), minority boys go either to the military or to prison. The traditional
factory work that minorities with high school educations would do in the past
are no longer here. The truth in sentencing legislation that has been
implemented over the past 20 years has disproportionally affected boys, sending
them to jail instead of to the workforce. This problem is even worse for
minority boys. These are complex and very nuanced issues.
The only segment of the population that you can openly discriminate against
today are white males below the age of 40... They are not a
protected class and so they get blamed for all inequality that exists in the
world... Schools will screen them out in favor of less qualified Females or
minorities for acceptance into a College, Law School, or a Med School...
Employers will by-pass them for promotions in favor of less qualified females
and minorities... And, advertisements for products, goods, and services will
often try and make this segment of the population look stupid or ridiculous in
order to enhance their sales... Actors and actresses in Ads will be skewed so
that there are far more minorities in them than the percentage of the population
they represent. It's vogue today to disregard the candidacy of a white guy
unless he is overwhelmingly more qualified and it is also vogue today to make
the white guy look stupid...I enjoy these articles and I burst with
pride when I read about the accomplishments of these young men... It makes you
feel good... Big Kudos to the families of these young men who helped raise them
It's been said a lot lately, and something that I agree with. One of the
hardest things to be in America in this day and age is a White Male. Women and
minorities have over the course of the last few decades, been given the upper
hand, and given advantages that, although deserved, have come at the expense of
the white male. My own son was denied a scholarship because a minority girl, who
wasn't as qualified, but because "a number" had to be met, was
given it and he was passed over. Fair? No! But that is one example of the war on
boys, and in particular, white males. You can call me whatever you want, but at
least look before you yell, the facts are all around you if you look.
With the amount of attention these kids from Lone Peak are getting its becoming
disturbing. We get it already. Shine the light on someone else for awhile while
they do their time. It's as if they are the only kids that played HS
basketball and got recruited. The media is creating an expectation of these kids
that when its not met in in 2-3 years these kids will have a Jake Heaps
experience. Most of the state is tired of hearing of Lone Peak. All the
attention they got from winning the National Championship sufficed. We
don't need reporters following them into their missions as well!!!
This same story could be written about hundreds of great kids that have played
HS basketball across the state. What Lone Peak did in basketball was a
tremendous accomplishment. But so many kids are equally as talented if not more
when it comes to the spiritual side of life. Not trying to sound bitter,
because I'm not. But I coach at an in state HS and know the caliber and
spirituality of all of these kids. Lone Peak is great at basketball.
They're what everyone wants to become. We all want five D1 athletes in a
starting 5. But they're no better than any other kids across the state. Hopefully we can get a grasp on this "war on boys!"
The war on boys has been evident and prevalent for years, just hushed up as not
being politically correct to report abuses by the 'system'. It has
ben documented that female teachers are more demanding and more cruel to male
students than to female students. I see no hospitals for 'men' or
specialties clinics with the words ...for men or 'men only' treatment
centers. One sees little advertisements for prostate cancer funding
prevention/cure and fund raising even though prostate cancer kills almost as
many men as breast cancer kills women. There are not shelters for men when they
are abused by their wives and they are too ashamed to go public or seek help.Men are held up to ridicule and disrespect in the media, sit-coms and
advertisements: they most certainly are made out to be unable to make decisions
and displayed as dolts, until a female comes along and gives him proper
direction and advise so that he can succeed in his decision making. Such
conduct and tolerance of man-bashing is disrespectful to men and an affront to
This is a great series! What wonderful young men. It is always nice to read
about what is good in the world.
Y-Ask/southmtnI fled California to escape from an environment
dominated by the ignorant and deceptive thinking and belief system of
today's so-called "liberals."And here I find that two
of the first six comments are afflicted by this diseased "thinking" or
mindless talking points. Since approximately 30% of voters self-identify as
liberals, I suppose we'll have to get used to this phenomenon.
Finally we are getting some stats on education, employment and success of boys
and men vs. females. Perhaps the single biggest weapon to destroy men and boys
is simple, almost intangible and indescribable: Men/boys nearly always give
benefit of doubt to women/girls and young children. Seldom do we give each
other that basic benefit of doubt when there is a question of honor. Guilty
unless proven otherwise. Why is this so?
War on Boys? Nope. War on the middle class jobs men used to have? Yes. Men have
not changed, but society has. Corporations in America have systematically
attacked the value of work for that last 35 years. The nation has devalued the
work of everyone, women are making less than men on average so what good is it
going to do if men or women achieve high levels of education when corporations
are pushing down the value of all work. Again there is no war on men, but there
is a massive war on working Americans.
If your a male, your the problem. If you are a white maie, just roll over and
play dead. Because you are definitely the problem.
In a competitive society there are "winners" and " losers." If
women are viewed as inferior by men, women will be the losers if men have the
power and visa versa. Women are certainly still not viewed by our society as
"winners" overall, as evidenced by the lack of women CEOs, women in
government, in other powerful positions, the disparity between pay for women
compared to the pay for men, etc. I see this as more a potential threat to the
currently powerful, the men, than as a reversal of roles, or anything else.The solution is not to resume the old status quo, but to stop playing
the competition game. We need to stop seeing gender and begin seeing each
individual as a person of talent and worth. We are all children of God. Knowing
that on a deeper level is where we must start.
@Y-Ask-Y - Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it's not
there.Satan has many tools now to draw young men away from the
Church and the Priesthood. What better name to give it than a "War on
re: southmtnmanYou are right. Its all out assault on middle class,
heterosexual, white men.
@ Y, Did you not read the article? Did you look at the stats? If any group
other than men were showing that much decline is such a relatively short period,
there would be a hue and outcry, and the federal government would employ
task-forces to combat it. But contrary to the facts it is ignored. "Guys
can take care of themselves". Yeah? How is that decrease in wages going
for them do ya think?
There is no "war on boys".
My goodness!There are a tremendous amount os sweeping generalities in this
I am glad that someone is recognizing the war on boys. The data is all there.
It is time for support systems typically reserved for women to now be created in
support of men. Women's centers and studies at our universities were and
are an important step forward but the data clearly show that such support
systems are now needed for men and boys.
"War on boys"?Really?How far can fear mongering
be taken before it becomes silly?
Elder Shumway is serving in the greatest mission on earth. Those 20 extra pounds
are probably mostly composed of the most delicious flour tortillas known to man.
The people of South Texas are lucky to have such a great young man among them.
He is certainly lucky to have them as well.