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  • Kimber Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2014 9:37 p.m.

    Obamacare is much more than expanding Medicaid enrollments Mountain Man. I have Obamacare which is a regular personal health plan, but without the pre existing conditions and other things that insurance burdened the country with before. And the plans that people had cancelled was corrected too. These plans did not meet the qualifications needed for the good and fair AFA standards, but a person can keep them this year if desired (while they look for a better plan)

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Feb. 3, 2014 10:59 a.m.

    We need to remember,
    Mike Richards wants to disband the Enviromental Protection Agency and Department of Education.

    [but for some reason, remains eerily quite about GWBushs's Home Land Security and TSA.}

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Feb. 3, 2014 8:17 a.m.


    You've also got Barrack Obama telling us that he will legislate using executive orders. You've also got Barrack Obama telling us the he will enforce those laws and those parts of laws that he wants to enforce. You also have a court ruling that told us that we cannot eat our own food or feed the crops that we raise to our own animals. How about using the Constitution as a "steel ruler" instead of an "elastic band" that can be turned and twisted to mean anything that you want it to mean?

    You know what you would do if someone decided to park his semi in your driveway because he felt that it was in the "general interest" of the community that he have easy access to your private property to use as he saw fit, yet you allow anyone to draw funds from tax revenues collected from working Americans to feed themselves, to clothe themselves, to pay for their personal doctor bills.

    I hope you don't have a garden, because FDR said that you can't eat from it.

  • Sven Morgan, UT
    Feb. 2, 2014 9:30 p.m.

    Under the "individual mandate" portion of Obamacare, 5% of Americans lost their insurance coverage thanks to the requirements written into the law. As hard as the left tries, they can't blame "Big Insurance" for this one.

    This was just a precursor for what's coming when the "Employer Mandate" portion of this nightmare healthcare law kicks in. I guess this is why Obama, willy nilly, through one of his edicts delayed this employer mandate until just after the 2014 elections. Hmm, now why would that be? If this law is so wonderful and crucial, and Americans just can't wait, why the delay? Simple, it's going to be an unmitigated disaster, and Obama and the Dems know it!

    Still trying to understand how Dear Leader can delay, what we were told by the SCOTUS was a tax?

    The young people who voted for Obama twice are now coming to understand it is they who will be paying the lion’s share of this disaster. Wealth redistribution sounds great when you’re a college student. Funny how things change when you’ve finished school, can’t get a job, and realize you’re the one whose wealth will be redistributed.

  • Curmudgeon Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 2, 2014 8:21 p.m.


    Where does the Constitution define or distinguish "general" from "personal" welfare? I've got 200+ years of Supreme Court decisions telling me that "general welfare," as used in the Constitution, is an expansive and flexible concept that justifies many of your despised social programs. What have you got besides your own narrow viewpoint?

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Feb. 2, 2014 4:13 p.m.


    Sorry, but you totally misunderstand the word "general" as opposed to the word "personal". A road promotes the "general" welfare. The car you drive to cross that bridge is your "personal" welfare. The license your doctor needs to practice medicine is "general". Treating his patients is "private".

    The forefathers would have been appalled to learn how many people stick their hands out to receive personal welfare from their fellow citizens. At one time, Americans had pride. They were willing to work for what they, their families and all whom they loved. Now the first thing people do is to call their Congressman and ask him where their welfare check is.

  • Curmudgeon Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 2, 2014 1:38 p.m.

    Mike and Thid:

    Ever heard of the "general welfare"? Guess what? It's right there in the U.S. Constitution, in at least two places (preamble and Art. 1 Sec. 8). If you don't think public health is a proper role of government to promote the general welfare, then what does general welfare mean?

    If public health is outside governmental power, you must also be against all government restrictions on tobacco, alcohol, marijuana, heroin, meth, cocaine, and prescription medications: no more war on drugs--just let 'em flow freely.

    You must believe that government should not regulate emissions from your autos, trucks, Stericycle, the oil refineries, or coal-burning power plants. Burn, baby, burn.

    You must think that government should not try to protect your food and water supplies from harmful pathogens and contamination. Shut down the water treatment plants. Fire the meat inspectors.

    And why have traffic laws? They only tend to protect citizens' health.


  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    Feb. 2, 2014 1:34 p.m.

    The legislature can complain (and will) 24/7 about Obamacare but there's nothing they can do about it, so they might as well make the best of it. But even if they expand Medicaid, we still have a problem. Too many MDs can't take Medicaid patients and drive their boats and sports cars and furnish their mansions all at the same time. What we really need is MDs who are in business to care for people.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Feb. 2, 2014 11:40 a.m.

    What a novel idea! Checkpoints. It worked so well in East Germany & Russia. I further suggest that we set up checkpoints at every County Line.
    The author of this letter is a professor at UVU. I'll bet he would appreciate checkpoints to Utah County. Anyone without a temple recommend will be turned away.

  • Mike in Cedar City Cedar City, Utah
    Feb. 2, 2014 9:16 a.m.

    The governor should threaten to do the Arizona's governor did. Veto every piece of legislation until a viable medicaid expansion bill is on his desk. As to the "leaking" pot issue...I do think we have more serious problems. But there should be some kind of a state effort to educate the public about the dangers of ingesting harmful substances and yes even overeating. Overeating is probably a bigger long health problem that smoking pot, or for that matter cigarettes and other forms of tobacco.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Feb. 2, 2014 8:32 a.m.

    Why wait for the government to "promote better health"? Isn't that the individual's job to promote their own health; eat better, exercise and make better health choices? If you think the Obama administration, who seems to think the most pressing healthcare need is more free birth control for liberal women is going to improve your health, you are lost already!

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Feb. 2, 2014 8:21 a.m.

    Is it the government's responsibility to promote health? Where is that written? I can't find it in the Constitution. The 10th Amendment requires the Federal Government to let the States handle everything not specifically listed in the U. S. Constitution. Does the Utah State Constitution have a "health clause"? If it does not, then the responsibility for personal health is a personal matter.

    The dichotomy is that some people expect public money to be used to pay personal medical bills. Why would anyone expect that to happen? Personal welfare is personal. Each person is responsible to our Creator to use personal liberty properly, including taking care of the physical body that we were given. That is a matter better left to the individual. That's why we have families. Families are responsible for their constituent members. Government is not our nanny.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Feb. 2, 2014 7:01 a.m.

    The only thing Obamacare has done is to vastly expand Medicaid enrollments! One has to ask, why then did Obama and the Demos, waste so much time and money with Obamacare when all it did was expand Medicaid? That could have been done with an executive order and saved millions of existing insurance policies, kept insurance premiums, co-pays and deductibles from exploding and yes, "If you liked your insurance, and your doctor, you could really have kept them, period"! What a mess the Demos have handed us!

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Feb. 2, 2014 6:53 a.m.

    Really Rick?

    A checkpoint on "all the roads from Colorado in Utah" so "Utah can protect itself from recreational pot leaking in to its jurisdiction."

    Tell me you are being sarcastic. Please...

    You may want to check, but "recreational pot" leaked in a long time ago.

    Been watching "Reefer Madness" lately?