Utah basketball: Ogbe transitioning well

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  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    Feb. 1, 2014 1:29 p.m.

    BYU fans

    If you would like an article about your freshmen, please ask the D news to write an article about your freshman.

    Please do not come on to this board to stir up trouble or extol the merits of freshman on your team.

    At no time did the article mention BYU. At no time did any of the posters post anything about BYU until a BYU fan decided to bring it up.

    I'm not even sure any of the BYU based posts qualify under the new board rules as they were completely off topic, and obviously only here to stir up an argument.

    Go Utes

    Jan. 31, 2014 8:32 p.m.

    CFiT, Mika is a beast, but needs to play under control to really be great, which he has the potential for. No, I wouldn't take any of this year's frosh over him, but Chapman is a consideration.

    Also, is he going on a mission this year? Because if he does, I could see next year's team being about the same as this year's, and that's only if Dastrup can be as productive as Mika. Utah may have one of the most athletic frontcourts in the West next year with Love, Chapman and Kuzma.

  • Crow Sandy , UT
    Jan. 31, 2014 4:08 p.m.

    @ 1 Of 20 on the road Simple stats the byu freshman playing time and ppg have been declining since they started conference play. Were as the Utah freshman minutes and ppg have maintained the same. It appears the other teams in the 10th best conference (wwc) have scouted the freshman of byu leading to their decline in play and PPG.
    Utes better athletes simple Kenneth is actually make huge contributions against better atheletes from the conference of champions when they are called on. The reason why they are not playing more. Utah does not need them to play more with the likes of Taylor and Wright at guard. Your comment byu takes more shots then Utah well Utah as a team shoots FGA 50.4% FT 75% so Utah has better shooters, better athletes, and they work on their free throws unlike byu.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Jan. 31, 2014 2:29 p.m.

    So many interesting comments on here . . .

    Let's start with the Frosh comparison first. Forget the PPG or FT%, or perceived athleticism; is there anybody out there who would take Utah's Frosh over Mika? Come on . . . this is easy for anyone to answer.

    Second, I agree that Utah's future is brighter, after coming out of the darkness the past decade. And Utah is better than I thought U'd be this year, but I don't see anything that shows me the Utes will do better than the middle of the PAC for the next four years.

    On the flipside, with the talent BYU has in the pipeline, I can see a Top 25 team and a high probability of some Sweet 16 (or maybe better) runs. 2013 / 2014 will be the weakest BYU BB for the next six years.

    Jan. 31, 2014 1:42 p.m.

    Still refers to his/her other pseudonyms in the third person, that is hilarious.

  • 1 Of 20 on the road Seattle, WA
    Jan. 31, 2014 1:22 p.m.

    I think he got the stats came from the Sports Illustrated page. I checked them and they seem to be accurate prior to last night's game.
    How do you know that the utah frosh are better athletes? Can you prove it? What criteria are you using? Can you show us where BYU's frosh players are declining or are you just making things up? Do the ute athletes get more rebounds or block more shots or have a higher ppg average? Since the u players in mention only have 26 free throws combined and the BYU freshman have 158 combined that is not a good comparison as the u players will decline with more attempts. If the u freshmen are so talented why are they not getting more minutes?
    Sorry to throw so many hard questions at you at once.

  • Crow Sandy , UT
    Jan. 31, 2014 12:45 p.m.

    @ The Anti Chris I dont know where you got your stats but byu's two freshmen are not averaging 14.2 and 7.8 points per game. The two byu freshman you speak of are very average lets compare the freshman on both teams that play significant minutes.

    For byu (stats from byu's website)
    Eric avg 26.2 min 13.7 ppg shooting 192 attempts avg .552 FGA FT 67-110 for a whopping .609 avg
    Frank avg 12.8 min 4.9 ppg shooting 45 attempts for .379 FG avg TP 30 attempts for avg .300 great shooter FT 26-48 .542 avg put that man on the line.
    Parker avg 11.4 min shooting 43 attempts .465 avg TP 26 attempts .346 avg FT 7-7 .100 money on the line
    Kenneth Avg 9.4 min shooting 40 attempts .500 avg TP 22 att .500 FT 17-19 .737

    Utah's Freshman are better athletes, better shooters, they can make their free throws. During conference play they are actually stepping up where as BYU's freshman PPG are declining.

    The future really looks bright with Utah with the Freshman already playing and again securing the services of the States top player.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 31, 2014 12:31 p.m.

    @ Gone fishin

    "He's provided a huge spark off the bench of couple times so far this season."

    I did define spark. A couple times this season, he has stepped in and played a big role. I then went on to explain how he needs to mature a little bit as a player because he has not been very consistent. Also, nobody was discussing BYU. I have no interest in discussing mid-major basketball.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Jan. 31, 2014 12:00 p.m.

    Gone fishin

    And you conveniently forgot to mention that BYU's true freshmen are getting their points against WCC teams like Pacific. So much for being able to have a meaningful discussion.

  • Gone fishin Seattle, WA
    Jan. 31, 2014 11:12 a.m.

    A huge spark is 12 points in one game but a season average of 4.7 per game? Please define spark because I don't see it. Now if you want to look at BYU's true freshmen that both average much higher than that then we can continue with a meaningful discussion.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Jan. 31, 2014 8:43 a.m.

    "Who's future looks brighter?"

    Utah's, in all of the major sports. Go Utes!

    Jan. 31, 2014 7:23 a.m.

    Du, it's noteworthy because it's a new player that most of the fanbase probably doesn't know much about yet that's earning more minutes. You crying about this is just the same as when you did about a BYU player not being mentioned in an article about Delon Wright before the season. It makes no sense.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 30, 2014 11:37 p.m.

    @ Down under

    Thank you for that irrelevant comment about a school nobody was talking about.

    I think Ogbe has a lot of potential. Just needs to settle in and let the game come to him. He's provided a huge spark off the bench of couple times so far this season.

  • QualityControl Sandy, UT
    Jan. 30, 2014 11:19 p.m.

    @ Down under

    Scoring doesn't mean much if the person you're guarding scores more than you. BYU has a bunch of scorers but some serious defensive issues, which is why they're looking up to teams like San Francisco and Saint Mary's in the Western Coast standings.

    I will give you that the future looks bright for BYU...and VERY bright for Utah.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 30, 2014 10:57 p.m.

    Why are we all getting all excited about a player scoring 12 points in a game. BYU has several that average that and more over the entire season and one of them is a freshman, not to mention a player coming off the bench with a higher average.
    The future looks bright for BYU with zero seniors on their roster this year plus a loaded recruiting class coming in next year and some good talent coming off missions.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 30, 2014 9:19 p.m.

    Love the way each of the guys are finding their place and meshing together really well. Coach K is even a year ahead of where I thought they'd be. Keep up the good work guys.

    Go UTES!

    Jan. 30, 2014 8:04 p.m.

    Ogbe could be a little bit thisyear like Brandon Taylor was last year. Brandon had a couple moments early in the season, like providing some instant offense in the 21 point win against Boise State, but never really emerged as a consistent player until the game at UW, and ended up being a very important player on the team. If Ogbe adjusts to the American college game, and can provide a good spark, he could be very important for the team, and maybe even earn a few starts at the wing, mixing in with Tucker and Onwas.