BYU fansIf you would like an article about your freshmen, please ask
the D news to write an article about your freshman.Please do not
come on to this board to stir up trouble or extol the merits of freshman on your
team.At no time did the article mention BYU. At no time did any of
the posters post anything about BYU until a BYU fan decided to bring it up. I'm not even sure any of the BYU based posts qualify under the new
board rules as they were completely off topic, and obviously only here to stir
up an argument.Go Utes
CFiT, Mika is a beast, but needs to play under control to really be great, which
he has the potential for. No, I wouldn't take any of this year's frosh
over him, but Chapman is a consideration.Also, is he going on a
mission this year? Because if he does, I could see next year's team being
about the same as this year's, and that's only if Dastrup can be as
productive as Mika. Utah may have one of the most athletic frontcourts in the
West next year with Love, Chapman and Kuzma.
@ 1 Of 20 on the road Simple stats the byu freshman playing time and ppg have
been declining since they started conference play. Were as the Utah freshman
minutes and ppg have maintained the same. It appears the other teams in the 10th
best conference (wwc) have scouted the freshman of byu leading to their decline
in play and PPG. Utes better athletes simple Kenneth is actually make huge
contributions against better atheletes from the conference of champions when
they are called on. The reason why they are not playing more. Utah does not need
them to play more with the likes of Taylor and Wright at guard. Your comment byu
takes more shots then Utah well Utah as a team shoots FGA 50.4% FT 75% so Utah
has better shooters, better athletes, and they work on their free throws unlike
So many interesting comments on here . . . Let's start with the
Frosh comparison first. Forget the PPG or FT%, or perceived athleticism; is
there anybody out there who would take Utah's Frosh over Mika? Come on . .
. this is easy for anyone to answer.Second, I agree that Utah's
future is brighter, after coming out of the darkness the past decade. And Utah
is better than I thought U'd be this year, but I don't see anything
that shows me the Utes will do better than the middle of the PAC for the next
four years. On the flipside, with the talent BYU has in the
pipeline, I can see a Top 25 team and a high probability of some Sweet 16 (or
maybe better) runs. 2013 / 2014 will be the weakest BYU BB for the next six
Still refers to his/her other pseudonyms in the third person, that is hilarious.
Crow,I think he got the stats came from the Sports Illustrated page. I
checked them and they seem to be accurate prior to last night's game.How do you know that the utah frosh are better athletes? Can you prove it?
What criteria are you using? Can you show us where BYU's frosh players are
declining or are you just making things up? Do the ute athletes get more
rebounds or block more shots or have a higher ppg average? Since the u players
in mention only have 26 free throws combined and the BYU freshman have 158
combined that is not a good comparison as the u players will decline with more
attempts. If the u freshmen are so talented why are they not getting more
minutes?Sorry to throw so many hard questions at you at once.
@ The Anti Chris I dont know where you got your stats but byu's two
freshmen are not averaging 14.2 and 7.8 points per game. The two byu freshman
you speak of are very average lets compare the freshman on both teams that play
significant minutes. For byu (stats from byu's website)Eric avg 26.2 min 13.7 ppg shooting 192 attempts avg .552 FGA FT 67-110 for a
whopping .609 avgFrank avg 12.8 min 4.9 ppg shooting 45 attempts for .379
FG avg TP 30 attempts for avg .300 great shooter FT 26-48 .542 avg put that man
on the line.Utah Parker avg 11.4 min shooting 43 attempts .465 avg
TP 26 attempts .346 avg FT 7-7 .100 money on the lineKenneth Avg 9.4 min
shooting 40 attempts .500 avg TP 22 att .500 FT 17-19 .737Utah's Freshman are better athletes, better shooters, they can make their
free throws. During conference play they are actually stepping up where as
BYU's freshman PPG are declining. The future really looks
bright with Utah with the Freshman already playing and again securing the
services of the States top player.
@ Gone fishin"He's provided a huge spark off the bench of
couple times so far this season."I did define spark. A couple
times this season, he has stepped in and played a big role. I then went on to
explain how he needs to mature a little bit as a player because he has not been
very consistent. Also, nobody was discussing BYU. I have no interest in
discussing mid-major basketball.
Gone fishinAnd you conveniently forgot to mention that BYU's
true freshmen are getting their points against WCC teams like Pacific. So much
for being able to have a meaningful discussion.
2fer,A huge spark is 12 points in one game but a season average of 4.7 per
game? Please define spark because I don't see it. Now if you want to look
at BYU's true freshmen that both average much higher than that then we can
continue with a meaningful discussion.
"Who's future looks brighter?"Utah's, in all of
the major sports. Go Utes!
Du, it's noteworthy because it's a new player that most of the fanbase
probably doesn't know much about yet that's earning more minutes. You
crying about this is just the same as when you did about a BYU player not being
mentioned in an article about Delon Wright before the season. It makes no sense.
@ Down underThank you for that irrelevant comment about a school
nobody was talking about.I think Ogbe has a lot of potential. Just
needs to settle in and let the game come to him. He's provided a huge spark
off the bench of couple times so far this season.
@ Down underScoring doesn't mean much if the person you're
guarding scores more than you. BYU has a bunch of scorers but some serious
defensive issues, which is why they're looking up to teams like San
Francisco and Saint Mary's in the Western Coast standings.I
will give you that the future looks bright for BYU...and VERY bright for Utah.
Why are we all getting all excited about a player scoring 12 points in a game.
BYU has several that average that and more over the entire season and one of
them is a freshman, not to mention a player coming off the bench with a higher
average.The future looks bright for BYU with zero seniors on their roster
this year plus a loaded recruiting class coming in next year and some good
talent coming off missions.
Love the way each of the guys are finding their place and meshing together
really well. Coach K is even a year ahead of where I thought they'd be.
Keep up the good work guys.Go UTES!
Ogbe could be a little bit thisyear like Brandon Taylor was last year. Brandon
had a couple moments early in the season, like providing some instant offense in
the 21 point win against Boise State, but never really emerged as a consistent
player until the game at UW, and ended up being a very important player on the
team. If Ogbe adjusts to the American college game, and can provide a good
spark, he could be very important for the team, and maybe even earn a few starts
at the wing, mixing in with Tucker and Onwas.