On a different roll: Living without toilet paper 'luxury'

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  • My Life Without Plastic Cincinnati, OH
    May 1, 2017 8:33 a.m.

    I find it a little hard to believe that so many people are so out of touch with what is really going on. And facts......
    Using cloth even with the washing is so much better for the environment than using toilet paper. Have you ever looked in to how many natural resources are actually used for this "luxury" because I have.
    Big business has you all pretty brainwashed (although until recently, I thought the only way to get rid of bacteria was to kill it too). It also can just be washed away, same difference. It is the agitation action that loosens and then releases those pesky bacteria. All to be washed away...with the rinse.
    Vinegar may reduce bacteria but studies proved it was not that effective. I like the addition of essential oils for killing bacteria as studies have shown E oils are just as if not more effective than toxic chemicals.
    You also need to consider your own immune system and the role it plays in your ability to withstand nasty germs. I haven't been sick in years and I use water and cloth.
    Please know what you are talking about before you comment.

  • Michael De Groote
    Feb. 4, 2014 12:07 p.m.

    If you click through some of the links in this roundup, you'll see suggestions for people to soak the "family cloths" in natural disinfectant water with some drops of tea tree oil in them or something along those lines. So, fecal matter bacteria isn't a problem. I didn't like, however, how the woman in one of the videos said she washes them with her whites.

    What I found fun about this article is how, when I told people about what it was about, many people couldn't think of any method of how they could possibly live without toilet paper.

    I'm afraid, for myself, that civilization and toilet paper are inseparable.

    If people are interested in another article on extreme frugality, check out this article I wrote 5 years ago:
    which includes this:
    "If the neighbor's home was toilet-papered, she'd volunteer to help clean up the toilet paper hanging in the trees — and take it home."

  • dailynews Augusta, GA
    Feb. 4, 2014 8:36 a.m.

    If you want to be truly frugal - install a spray hose onto your toilet. When I lived in Asia many of the toilets had one on them. It was easy; spray, drip dry. Done. Much easier then all this washing - and more hygienic then either paper or cloth.

  • Itsme2 SLC, UT
    Feb. 3, 2014 8:56 a.m.

    I'd rather be "frugal" by eating rice and beans for months before I'd ever go for something like this. You're not saving the environment by not using TP. Think about all the resources you're using to disinfect those poopy cloths. Would I want to use my washer and dryer for those things? No way.

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    Feb. 2, 2014 3:13 p.m.

    Interesting. But I'm a Des news editorial page man and I'll stay that way!

  • K Mchenry, IL
    Feb. 1, 2014 3:08 p.m.

    Has anyone tested the fabric after used to see if it's actually safe to do this?

  • rusby Minneapolis, MN
    Jan. 31, 2014 6:16 p.m.

    We've been doing this for about seven years. And to be truthful, I'm all for development of natural resources. We also don't do it to save money, or to be close to the earth. For us, it is more of an independence thing. We are trying to live in such a way that if commercially produced things become unavailable for an expended period of time, we would like to have clean underwear. Well, at least my family would, it really isn't that important to me.

  • Yorkshire City, Ut
    Jan. 31, 2014 1:38 p.m.

    I'm with the folks who are disturbed by all the ramifications for fecal matter.

    Maybe a compromise in this idea is real toilet paper used for that, and the flannel things for the other?

  • RG Buena Vista, VA
    Jan. 31, 2014 1:30 p.m.

    I don't know about these virgin forest things; last I checked, American paper companies grew their own trees. So I don't think these people are all that eco friendly. It is more of a feel-good stunt for people who buy into the idea that mankind is bad for the planet (or "mother earth") as some say.

  • truth in all its forms henderson, NV
    Jan. 31, 2014 1:00 p.m.

    Gross Gross Gross! I dont care if your trying to save some money. Some things are necissities like Toilet paper. this is gross!

  • Paddycakes South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 31, 2014 12:19 p.m.

    What I don't see addressed is the fact that all the fecal matter does not get washed away down the drain. Some of it remains in the machine and/or is mixed with other clothing after the washing is completed, microscopic traces of fecal matter is on the washed clothes. This is not opinion, but result of scientific studies validating other clothes after babies diapers are washed in the the washing machine. Just substitute diapers for the 'new' wipes suggested. It belongs down the drain, not on our clothes, albeit, moist paper wipes are put in the garbage can in our home, but the 'other' goes down the drain. Remember, 70% of fecal matter is bacteria and it remains on some of your clothes if you elect to wash your cloth wipes. If following such bad advice, one opens the door to diseases and illness.

  • iron&clay RIVERTON, UT
    Jan. 31, 2014 11:39 a.m.

    Back when throw-away diapers were still being developed, I can remember changing diapers for baby. I would rinse the babies cloth diaper while flushing and place in hamper. It worked.

    But once we started using disposable diapers with later babies, we never went back unless we had unintentionally run out of disposables.

  • sew Herriman, UT
    Jan. 31, 2014 11:09 a.m.

    Has anyone heard of a bidet? Also, a substitute is a shower hose sprayer if it lies close enough to the scene of the crime. It is almost touchless. Just need a small towel for drying and dabbing toilet rim dry. Haven't used toilet paper in years.

  • Baron Scarpia Logan, UT
    Jan. 31, 2014 11:02 a.m.

    I saw this on TV's "Extreme Cheapskates" where a woman cut up old cloths for re-usable toilet wipes.

    Now, for folks who have just dismissed this as too disgusting, keep in mind that we're literally clear-cutting the world's tropical rainforests -- considered the earth's "lungs" for converting CO2 into O2 for life to breath -- for virgin timber to make the softest toilet paper possible. Recycled paper can't match tissue from virgin fibers.

    I was in Indonesia this past summer and witnessed the loss of forests for the production of soft tissue. In essence, we're literally flushing the earth's lungs down the toilet.

    Bidets are a potential answer. No paper needed.

  • Shawnm750 West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 31, 2014 11:00 a.m.

    I would do a bidet before I did this. I lived in Italy and they use bidets and I actually miss having one...

  • Rural sport fan DUCHESNE, UT
    Jan. 31, 2014 10:33 a.m.

    So funny.

    A: My grandparents lived this way. Millions around the world still do, or live with even less. Get over your 1st world issues and hangups, this isn't disgusting, dirty or fanatical. Is it really any different than using cloth diapers for babies? Do you think THAT would be fanatical? Is that mother disgusting? Really?

    B: Heating the water and energy for washing the cloth will take more resources? Do you not understand how much energy and heat and water and chemicals it takes to make, deliver, sell and then treat the waste water for the paper? I'd bet its FAR more eco friendly to wash these cloths.

    C: Why not use a bidet?

  • gator Roosevelt, UT
    Jan. 31, 2014 8:55 a.m.

    Never mind the extra water it takes to wash all of these, and the extra natural gas to heat all the extra water it takes to wash all of these, and the extra electricity it takes to power the washing machine, that uses the extra water heated by the extra natural gas that washes all of these!!!!!

  • Danny Chipman Lehi, UT
    Jan. 31, 2014 8:26 a.m.

    Visitors to the house will sure do a double take.

  • george of the jungle goshen, UT
    Jan. 31, 2014 7:29 a.m.

    I hope every one that reads this will do it. It might bring the cost of my TP down.

  • MAYHEM MIKE Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 31, 2014 6:35 a.m.

    This is the most disgusting and fanatical attempt to "be frugal" or to "protect the environment" I've ever read. There are multiple ways to "pinch pennies;" Did this household give up its "luxury" of cable television and cell phones? Did it combine errands to save gasoline? Penny-wise, pound-foolish.

  • samhill Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 30, 2014 10:29 p.m.

    When I read about nonsense like this I'm reminded of something my father said frequently, "It takes all kinds of people to make a world."

    And, then I shake my head an sigh. :o/