The multiple faces of the GOP response to the president

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  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 30, 2014 8:14 a.m.

    They should close some bridges in New Jersey.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Jan. 29, 2014 2:59 p.m.

    @Twin Lights
    Louisville, KY

    Because it breaks Reagan's 11th Commandment. Diversity is fine but when we begin to target RINOs in the party we self-immolate. Democrats just need to stand back and bring the marshmallows.
    8:01 a.m. Jan. 29, 2014


    Tea-Partiers LOVE Reagan,
    but despise practically everything he said or did.

  • E Sam Provo, UT
    Jan. 29, 2014 12:08 p.m.

    As usual, Twin Lights nails it.

    Jan. 29, 2014 9:11 a.m.

    Do we want two parties with members that rubber stamp every issue? or people with different opinions?

    The press likes to make an issue out of party division, but that could be a good thing.

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    Jan. 29, 2014 8:07 a.m.

    2bits, I take it you don't watch MSNBC. It's full of criticism of the President. Everything from foreign policy (there are nearly 20 Democrats signed on to the new Iran sanctions bill), to education, immigration, labor rights, and taxes.

    Even the ACA didn't have unanimous Democratic support.

    Regarding this issue the mistake Republicans make is actually believing that the President represents the far left of this country. So the discussion in the Democratic party that is primarily driven by the left (not always because there are center left Congressmen who actually have a foot in the right side) you just assume it's self speak not discussion.

    What Democrats learned (at least for now..and I think Hillary Clinton could change this) is there's a time for discussion and a time to pull together.

    Working together is not gestapo just can't help yourself can you.

  • Twin Lights Louisville, KY
    Jan. 29, 2014 8:01 a.m.

    2 Bits,

    Because it breaks Reagan's 11th Commandment. Diversity is fine but when we begin to target RINOs in the party we self-immolate. Democrats just need to stand back and bring the marshmallows.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 28, 2014 8:33 p.m.

    More than two faced?

  • Schnee Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 28, 2014 3:05 p.m.

    Interesting list of "lies". I'm going to pick one to address since it turns out explaining things requires more than just an unsubstantiated list.

    " you didn't build that,"

    First off, I'm not even sure how that's a lie. Secondly, context is key.

    'If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business—you didn't build that.' - Obama

    'You Olympians, however, know you didn't get here solely on your own power. For most of you, loving parents, sisters or brothers encouraged your hopes … Coaches guided, communities built venues in order to organize competitions. All Olympians stand on the shoulders of those who lifted them.' - Romney

    All Obama's saying is that a restaurant didn't build the highway system that lets them easily transport potatoes from Idaho (or whatever they're cooking), just like the stadiums for the olympics weren't built by the athletes themselves.

  • The Skeptical Chymist SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 28, 2014 2:35 p.m.

    Tonight's festivities will be just another opportunity for mindless platitudes to be spouted on TV, whether they're spouted by the president or his opponents. I can't imagine why anyone would want to spend even one hour listening to these meaningless speeches, or the subsequent bloviations by the talking heads. Almost any other activity would be more enjoyable.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 28, 2014 2:14 p.m.

    I think it's justification for ridicule that the Democrats (who claim to be all about "Diversity" of ideas, and "Tolerance" of a multiplicity of ideas)... is now the party of NO Diversity of thought, or Tolerance of any divergence from the party-line.

    And the GOP they used to criticized for being too much the same and just voting the party-line... are now criticized for having any divergence from the party-line.

    That's irony for you.


    I think it's HEALTHY for the GOP to have some people who question the party bosses and the status quo.

    And I predict if Democrats stick with the current policy of knocking down any heads that get out of line, and telling all democrats what they must think, what they must say, what they must do, how they must vote... gestapo tactics... they will end up suffering from stagnation (as the GOP did) in the long run.


    Diversity may not be conducive to winning elections... but it's VERY good for intellectual growth and encouraging new ideas (something the radical-left seems to care nothing about today). All that's important to them now... is winning elections.

  • Blue Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 28, 2014 1:32 p.m.

    I don't think you get the humor here. The fact that conservatives can't organize themselves to come up with a single, coherent message, and complain bitterly about "RINO's" and GOP warhorses like John McCain and Bob Bennett not being right-wing enough, is in fact perfect justification for ridicule.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 28, 2014 1:21 p.m.

    The multiple face of the gop have nothing up on the many lying faces of Obama!

    Benghazi, ObamaCare, IRS targeting, EPA, Jobs Numbers Scandal, cash for clinkers, you didn't build that, support for muslim extremists,.....and on and on and on!

  • Steve Cottrell Centerville, UT
    Jan. 28, 2014 1:20 p.m.

    This fracturing of the Republican Party may result in sufficient conflict in the ranks to help get Democrats elected. Remember the Ross Perot candidacy.

  • U-tar Woodland Hills, UT
    Jan. 28, 2014 12:39 p.m.

    I agree with 2bits, if your a conservation, it always seems to be a "problem" in the eyes of the media. The real "problem" currently lives in the White House and on the left side of the isle. Wouldn't hurt to roust out the Rino's as well. The damage they have done to this nation is a sad story indeed.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 28, 2014 12:15 p.m.

    The people in the National Media seem to think it's a "PROBLEM" that the GOP has many faces. I think it's a "Problem" if they DIDN'T!

    If they all spoke and walked in lock-step... THAT would be a problem (to me). That would mean nobody's THINKING. They are just following orders. And that's not good.


    What happened to the need for "Diversity" in the Democrat ranks?

    Why is no diversity of thought or of message allowed in the Democrat party? I think THAT'S the bigger issue.

    When our politicians just walk in lockstep like a bunch of automated drones... THAT is a problem.

    We need MORE diversity of thought, and MORE diversity of ideas... not LESS.


    When we expect everybody of a given party to walk the same, talk the same, think the same, and tow the party line at all times, stick to the published talking points, vote the party line... THAT is a problem, not having a robust debate inside your party about what is best for America (and not just for your party).

    Skyrocketing debt is NOT good for America. That's all the Tea Party is about!