Commentary: What BYU, Utah, Utah State, WSU, UVU and SUU need to do to make the NCAA Tournament

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  • Stang08 Southern, UT
    Jan. 26, 2014 3:46 p.m.

    All schools have to win out the rest of the season. Not going to happen though. Even if it did for certain teams we all know they would get beat in the first round. I'm talking about all three big schools. Weber is never good enough and it's gonna take years for SUU to be good enough.

  • VAggie Bristow, United States
    Jan. 25, 2014 3:02 a.m.

    Utah, byu and usu still have slight chances of at-large bids if they win out. I include USU simply because beating the current #7 team 2-3 times (if they won all games besides USU) would be a decent argument. The likelihood of this happening is a separate question. Even then it's by no means a sure thing. Wins over Arizona would be a good argument for the utes and byu winning out against a good gonzaga team would also help their resume. The most likely scenario is any utah team that wants to go to the dance must win their respective conference tournament. All 3 schools would be heavy underdogs going in with BYU the most likely to win their tournament followed by usu and utah (simply because U of A is currently one of if not the best teams in the nation.

  • nampaaggie9 nampa, ID
    Jan. 24, 2014 2:00 p.m.

    the utes wont be doing any dancing, I marked it down.

  • LoveTheKittens Central, UT
    Jan. 24, 2014 12:35 p.m.

    Speaking of RPI, isn't North Dakota State ahead of us cougs? Looks we just lost our spot in the big dance.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    Jan. 23, 2014 2:55 p.m.

    BYU and Utah have shots at at-large bids if they can improve their resumes.

    For the first time ever I will say that Chris B. is not being optimistic about the University of Utah.

    The Utes have enough upcoming games to significantly boost their profile if they win. Can they win? I am expecting the Utes to lose one home game left on their schedule--Arizona. Utah can beat any other team in the PAC 12 at home. On the road, they probably can beat half of the teams in the league.

    UVU has the best chance of the local teams to win its tournament. Its so nice that they are in a league with an automatic invite.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Jan. 23, 2014 2:37 p.m.

    @Chris B
    the Utes certainly will not go dancing, Mark that down

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    Jan. 23, 2014 2:12 p.m.

    #40 BYU is the only Utah team with a legitimate chance of getting an at-large bid. BYU will have to win all of their remaining home games and not lose any road games except to Gonzaga and perhaps Saint Mary's, otherwise BYU will have to win the WCC tournament.

    #121 Utah would have to go on an incredible road winning streak to get an at-large bid, and for a team that's only won 1 of 19 road games in the PAC 12, that's an almost impossible expectation. With ASU, Arizona, Colorado, USC (which just beat California), UCLA, California, and Stanford all on the road, the Utes would have to get extremely lucky to pick up more than a couple of wins. With 2 roads, and a likely maximum of no more than 3 more home wins, the Utes would only have a 19-11 record with 9 of those wins coming against teams ranked in the bottom 100 or non-Div 1 teams.

    UVU and Weber St have legitimate chances of winning their conference tournaments to secure auto-bids.

    USU has little chance of winning the MWC tournament. SUU no chance.

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    Jan. 23, 2014 2:04 p.m.


    "No local teams will go dancing..."

    That's certainly true of the team on the hill.

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    Jan. 23, 2014 1:29 p.m.

    No local teams will go dancing, without a miraculous run in the conference tournaments.

    And for people in love with current RPI, just remember that only means something if you think the strength of schedule of the rest of your season is as good as the strength of schedule from the past portion of the season.

    In other words, playing a good non-conference doesn't mean much even with a good RPI midway through the season if you're in a conference full of cupcakes, because the RPI hasn't taken into account the guaranteed drop in strength of schedule for being in a cupcake conference.

    There was a reason byu was never ranked even though they had a higher RPI thank Duke, Louisville, Michigan State, and Kentucky a few weeks ago and those 4 teams were all ranked.