BYU basketball: Winder, Carlino help lift Cougars over Santa Clara, 91-81

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  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Jan. 21, 2014 8:37 a.m.

    More complaints about the WCC. More complaints about independence. Should'a stayed in the MWC.

    Well, when BYU plays Pepperdine, Marymount, they get press in the LA Times. When they play in Portland and Spokane, they get press in the Oregonian and Seattle Times. When they play in the Bay Area, they get, well you get the point. In short, BYU is exposed to the entire west coast.

    When BYU used to play in Wyoming, Colorado, New Mexico, Las Vegas, they got NO press in West Coast cities. Nor did they get exposure to the California recruiting pool. To play in California, Oregon, and Washington every year is good for recruiting.

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Jan. 20, 2014 11:53 a.m.

    The WCC is currently ranked 9th in Conference RPI.
    The MWC is currently ranked 10th.

    Yeah, sure. Step down.

    I'm tired of all the knock on conferences. Good teams can come out of any conference. Stop believing the media hype of the "major" conferences. Yes, they usually have good teams on top of the standings. But just because the last place team is in "the best conference in the world, baby!" doesn't make them better than anybody else.

    And a good team in a "bad" conference can be a boost. UNLV, in it's "glory" years, was part of the Big West. While UNLV played in that conference, they would often get multiple teams in the Tournament. UNLV's success brought recognition. What happened when UNLV left to go to the MWC? The Big West doesn't get more than their conference champ into the tourney year after year.

    Gonzaga USED to be the only team in the WCC to get any recognition. Then St. Mary's started getting in to the tournament nearly every year. Good teams boost a conference.

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 20, 2014 10:49 a.m.

    BYU struggles guarding people straight up. The zone works in short stints because it presents a different look to the opposing offense but good shooting teams figure out the zone pretty quick. I'm surprised BYU can't even play man in the WCC where there are some, but fewer, really athletic, quick individual players. I would think BYU could man-up shooters like Pangos, Delavadova et al and be able to be effective in slowing down 3 point shooters. Nope.

    Syracuse pulls off the 2-3 zone because they have lengthy, long armed athletic players who cover lots of ground quickly...and because they have the 2nd leading All-Time winning coach who has taught it for 35 years.

    BYU has to either teach or recruit kids who can play man-to-man defense.

  • KimmyP Granstville, UT
    Jan. 19, 2014 6:26 p.m.

    @ potatoes,

    Nice 5 game win streak the Y has going. It couldn't have anything to do with level of competition during this stretch, could it...

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 19, 2014 6:14 p.m.

    "washington state….says it all…."

    Ken Lee:

    If that was meant of a put-down of Utah, it missed the mark--badly--because you left out the most important part.

    According to the RPI that coug fans love, Wazzu is #119, while Loyala-Marymount (or have you forgotten already?) is #159.

    That is all.

  • WA_Alum&Dad Marysville, WA
    Jan. 19, 2014 4:29 p.m.

    The relationship with the MWC was broken a couple of years prior to the Utes & the Cougs' departure, mostly with regards to promises made and not kept about TV rights. It was dysfunctional and getting worse when Utah bailed, so the timing was ideal. Whatever you may miss about home games and old rivalries, without independence & WCC, no BYUtv, no ESPN.

    I for one miss nothing and no one from the old days. And better days are ahead.

  • BYU sports on TV in Missouri Lebanon, MO
    Jan. 19, 2014 3:32 p.m.

    Great game cougars. It is nice to see different players stepping it up. I don't miss the MWC. Sure some of the venues were bigger, but between the MTN cable channel and mockery directed at the chuch by some of the opposing fans of certain schools I am happy with where we are. Gonzaga has made a name for themselves playing in the WCC and is highly respected. BYU should do just fine as long as they play a good non conference schedule.

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 19, 2014 3:02 p.m.

    Congrats to Santa Clara for putting academic integrity ahead of the W-L column.

    Jan. 19, 2014 1:43 p.m.

    Alpiner, be careful what you wish for. Utes started to run conservative up 17 to UCLA, and the lead got cut down to 2 with 22 seconds left. I'm of the inclination that teams need to run what they know and do best. Sure, sometimes, they may go cold and lose a lead, but more often than not, it will still give them the best chance to win. Part of the Utes losing that big lead was because of turnovers against the full court press, but if you watched the game, UCLA was running the press several times earlier in the game, and they handled it beautifully when they ran aggressive, and got several quick scores off of it; it wasn't until they tried guarding too much that they started to turn it over frequently.

    Good luck to your team the rest of the way. I think there's a strong possibility that no teams from the state make the NCAA's again, but wouldn't it be cool to see a few of them match up for either the first or second time in the NIT?

    Jan. 19, 2014 1:21 p.m.

    Congrats to the team on the win. One thing this year's shown in this state is that road wins are tough to come by, regardless of the strength of the opponent.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 19, 2014 12:46 p.m.

    This is a great win in a very difficult conference. BYU should now be ranked in the top 20.

  • DRay Roy, UT
    Jan. 19, 2014 12:42 p.m.

    Sharp has been helping the Cougars win lately, glad for him, need his complete game. Must trust Coach Rose on whom he plays when, he knows the team best. I did wonder if the team is a better team when not worried about getting the ball to Haws so he can get his points. The group of Sharp, Austin, Collingsworth, Carlino, Winder was really good, and Skyler Halford added hustle, Mika needs confidence and to learn to keep the ball up high, focus on footwork. Hope confidence is building to peak at tourney time.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 19, 2014 12:39 p.m.

    "a crowd of 2,560"

    Crowd? More like a gathering, as there were a fair amount of empty seats.

  • Stringer Bell Henderson, NV
    Jan. 19, 2014 11:34 a.m.

    Wasn't Santa Clara missing two starters? I'd keep the win in perspective. You beat a nobody team that's missing 40% of it's starting players. A win is a win but I wouldn't be beating my chest and get too excited about it.

  • JNA Layton, UT
    Jan. 19, 2014 11:01 a.m.

    Black Diamond wrote: "Too bad we can't beat a ranked team"

    I wholeheartedly agree. In my opinion you play to the level of your competition. Now yes, there is a Gonzaga in there and that is good but that is only one team. I cannot stand the Utes but I must say that as long as they continue to play quality opponents,the Utes are going to continue to grow to the level that they will compete well in the PAC-12. If BYU stays in the WCC then I can guarantee the program will become WCC quality and really no better with a win here and win there over a major opponent but it will not be consistent. Just like football.

  • MizzouBlue Carthage, MO
    Jan. 19, 2014 10:55 a.m.

    What is the deal with Root TV? I thought if A BYU game wasn't being shown on one of the ESPN channels that we could watch them on BYU TV. Anyone know?

  • Ken Lee Pasadena, CA
    Jan. 19, 2014 10:25 a.m.

    washington state….says it all….

  • Glad to be Retired Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 19, 2014 9:23 a.m.

    Hats of Carlino, he is playing team ball now and what a wonderful night Sharp had! Did you watch his rebounding? I was so happy for him that he got the minutes he did. It was a recognition of his contribution in my opinion.

  • WinSum Rexburg, ID
    Jan. 19, 2014 9:07 a.m.

    Nice couple of wins....however I truly miss being able to watch games in real gyms with lots of fans. Been fun watching Utah and I've been a BYU fan for ever.....WCC has some good teams, but still hard to realize this is where we are.

  • oddman ,
    Jan. 19, 2014 5:52 a.m.

    First half vs second half; Winder vs Haws; huge lead vs narrow lead. Can we conclude Winder is a better than suitable replacement for Haws on the defensive side as well as offensive? Not sure but it is great to see so many actors stepping up and keeping the level of play high. Good win. Here's hoping the next two road games result in the same outcome for the Cougars.

    Jan. 19, 2014 1:25 a.m.

    Great wins on the road this week for the Cougars!

    Now if only BYU can keep up the wins next week, go Cougars!

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 19, 2014 12:43 a.m.

    BYU is loaded with talent this year and you never know who is going to have a big night. It could be anyone of 8 players that has the talent to go off. BYU needs to find a way to put a team away when the have the big lead.. They should have won this game by 30 points but lost focus at critical times. Rose needs to figure this out and quick.
    BYU is on a roll ans should be able to go 3-1 on this road trip.

  • Joe Schmoe Orem, UT
    Jan. 19, 2014 12:35 a.m.

    Good win on the road. Next week is a big one! Keep up the hot shooting and make those FTs and we should be in good shape.

    Go Cougars! Make it to the big dance!

  • BlackDiamond Provo, UT
    Jan. 19, 2014 12:24 a.m.

    Too bad we can't beat a rank team!

  • FuzzyLogic VACAVILLE, CA
    Jan. 18, 2014 11:41 p.m.

    Matt definitely has his mojo back. That first half was, I think, the best basketball I've seen the cougs play this season. I don't understand why Coach Rose didn't play Anson much in the 2nd half. His first half play was brilliant and he and Skyler were hot. I don't really understand why he switched horses mid-stream.

  • Alpiner Alpine, UT
    Jan. 18, 2014 11:36 p.m.

    Nice win, the two biggest flaws were not running out the clock more toward the end of the game and a couple of bad fouls by Sharp and Carlino which helped Santa Clara get back in the game.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Jan. 18, 2014 11:09 p.m.

    I love the play of Carlino since he was benched. He was outstanding again tonight. It must be tempting for Rose to put him back in the starting lineup.

    BYU got outplayed in the second half, playing a bit sloppy and having defensive lapses. Mika was almost a liability. He is becoming a black hole from the post position and losing the ball frequently with his tendency to dribble when gets the pass in the post. Maybe he didn't get Rose's memo that the team was going to get away from selfish play. And his defense needs a lot of work.

    Good win but with the the shooting discrepancy between the 2 teams, this should have been a blowout.

  • 1984! SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Jan. 18, 2014 10:55 p.m.

    As a BYU BASKETBALL fan i have to vent. I am utterly disgusted at what BYU did to the basketball program just so the football program could go independant. I have been a season ticket holder for a few years but if BYU doesnt care about the basketball program why should i support it? These games against this 1-2 bid league is getting so old! do any other fans feel my resentment?

    By the way, no I do not wish the cougars were in the PAC, so ute fans please dont get on here pounding your chest. I am expressing my opinion to other BYU basketball fans. I would love for BYU to have stayed in the MWC and battled with SDSU, NM and upcoming Boise State.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Jan. 18, 2014 10:43 p.m.

    An impressive double-digit win on the road. BYU's 5th in a row and now in 2nd place in the WCC... only to Gonzaga. All that combined with a very impressive RPI puts BYU in a position that no one can rightfully be criticizing them at this stage... even (and especially) rivalry fans who don't like them. They've proven they can win on the road and more consistently than any other in-state college team is currently doing.

    As the neutral ROOT network tv announcers said tonight... BYU is back in the NCAA tournament hunt. BYU now controls their own destiny once again. Go Cougs!

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 18, 2014 10:43 p.m.

    Let me guess Duckhunter, the big difference between Utah and BYU's games today was that one was a road win and one was a home win.
    I'll go ahead and concede right now ... congrats to BYU, that was HUGE!
    All jokes aside, nice wins by both programs today, congrats to all.

  • UteNationAlum Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 18, 2014 10:37 p.m.

    Beat who?

  • fan in orem Orem, UT
    Jan. 18, 2014 10:29 p.m.

    Keep it going at Portland,Cougs.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Jan. 18, 2014 10:19 p.m.

    Nice road win for the Cougs. BYU vs Gonzaga game taking shape. Go Zags. Congrats