Brad Rock: Jazz tanking would take more trouble than it's worth

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  • RonBergundy SANDY, UT
    Jan. 15, 2014 6:01 p.m.

    Brad Rock. Please use a sports resource for your article next time.

  • jamsenior SANTAQUIN, UT
    Jan. 15, 2014 5:53 p.m.

    Finally a sane perspective on the Jazz! Tanking is NOT part of the Jazz culture. Larry Miller would turn in grave if he even THOUGHT they were tanking. What's with Utah fans that are so negative. What happen to our civic pride that IS part of the culture here. It's dis gusting to me. It's almost like people WANT negativity and can't wait to find the bad in anything now a days so they can giripe about it? If you don't like something change what you're doing or leave the situation! Don't like what the Jazz are doing find another team!

  • nhatch82 Eagle Mountain, UT
    Jan. 15, 2014 3:35 p.m.

    "Jabari Parker and Andrew Wiggins are surely college stars and tantalizing draft possibilities. But now a Forbes magazine article says that Parker and friends might not be (gasp!) the franchise-makers everyone expects."

    GASP? What are we gasping about? Since when is Forbe's magazine an authority on who will be a superstar and who will not? Thats like the ensign writing an article on the best "R" rated movie of the year.

    Tell me how many championships the spurs win without Big Timmy D? the answer is ZERO. There is legit talent in this draft and until we can start enticing players to leave L.A and Miami to come live in Salt lake City the draft is our only shot to get a superstar. Not Brad Rock's Best effort here

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Jan. 15, 2014 1:32 p.m.

    Too suck or not too suck , boy what a great thing professional sports has become. Sure makes me wanna watch a bunch of whiney millionaires suck at their "job". When I would get fired the next day if I sucked at my job.

    Jan. 15, 2014 1:15 p.m.

    The draft lottery was modified before the Spurs tanked and took Duncan. No guarantee's, but they gave themselves a chance and it paid off. We need to finish in the bottom three to assure we get one of the top 5, all are potential difference makers.

    Would you rather go back to a first round exit each year?

  • Elcapitan Ivins, UT
    Jan. 15, 2014 10:50 a.m.

    Play ball, go for the wins with what we have got. This mentality goes a lot farther than gambling on a pick to building a winning franchise also, we have the picks already, watch them play on a good night. It is now up to the management and coach to do with what they have. Give us some real basketball right now. doing this also assures ticket sales for the present.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    Jan. 15, 2014 9:51 a.m.

    @RRB "The Jazz just need to follow the Spurs example, and give them self a chance to succeed."

    How many times does it have to be repeated? Are you not aware that the draft lottery was modified to NOT guarantee teams the #1 even if they do tank like the Spurs did? Are you aware there likely is no Tim Duncan in this draft even if the Jazz were one of the four worst AND the ping pong balls bounced their way and they got the #1 pick?

    Tanking doesn't mean you get the #1 pick.

    There is hardly a "lock" #1 selection this year either. The top picks are ebbing and flowing and there really isn't one that is dominating most every game they play.

    Lots of luck involved in having a successful. Finishing record, how the ping pong balls bounce, how teams pick in front of you, how you pick, and of course how the player you pick turns out.

    Lots of factors have to go right.

    Evidently with the Jazz winning "too much" with all their young picks/players, they appear to have drafted far better than most expected already...all without ANY #1 picks.


  • JazzJunkie Logan, UT
    Jan. 15, 2014 9:50 a.m.

    This article brings up some interesting points, but I also wonder why Forbes has become the expert on basketball players. Sure these young guys have struggled, but what do you expect out of college freshman?

    I am on board for the Jazz to tank. I wrote a blog about it just the other day. Here's the link if you want to read it. Here's the blog if you want to read it. JazzJunkie dot blogspot dot come if you want to read it.

    I just feel that anyone within the top 4 or 5 would be a quality addition to our young, talented roster. Parker, Wiggins, Randle, Embid and even guys like Smart or Exum all have the potential to be something special. You never know but with the talent that is in this draft, in my opinion, it's worth it to tank.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    Jan. 15, 2014 9:30 a.m.

    "Heisler’s story says Wiggins is slipping on the draft board and could end up lower than third, and none is a guaranteed superstar.

    “Deep as this draft class is, its star quotient is another question,” Heisler writes.

    His point: There are no LeBron Jameses or Kevin Durants in 2014. He adds there’s not even anyone as highly regarded as No. 1 picks Anthony Davis (2012), Kyrie Irving (2011), John Wall (2010), Blake Griffin (2009) or Derrick Rose (2008)."

    REally? None is a guaranteed superstar? Wow. I thought all of them game with guaranteed stickers on them? He says that nobody knows what they are then goes on to tell you what they won't become.

    What a clown article.

    Was Chris Paul picked #1? Did anyone predict he would be one of the best and pick him #1?

    There are never guarantees and writers like this don't have any better idea than many of the random fans. There are always busts and there are always surprises and nobody knows for certain. There were alot of doubters about Durrant who could hardly lift a bag of groceries at the workouts he was so weak.

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    Jan. 15, 2014 9:17 a.m.

    It is true there are no guarantees that having a top 4 lottery pick is going to produce a superstar. But you have to play the percentages and if you compared the history of top 4 picks with say the history of players taken in the middle to end of the 1st round, I'll bet you will find most of the best players came in those top 4 picks. Sure there are some busts in the top 4 as we'll, but does that mean playing for a top draft pick is a bad idea? I don't think so. We are at a disadvantage getting top notch free agents in Utah and our best chance is to build through the draft. We drafted Stockton and Malone before making a championship run before. I doubt we could have lured those guys here as free agents one they became stars in the league.

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    Jan. 15, 2014 9:14 a.m.

    Good article. That's the nature of the business. I watched Arkansas beat Kentucky in overtime last night. Watching Julius Randle play was "worth the price of admission". These are 18 and 19 year olds granted. However, you can see the star quality in a few. Randle is one of those. Kentucky has guaranteed stars and Anthony Davis was one of those. You will see them in the Final Four as usual and their entire starting five will be drafted also as usual.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    Jan. 15, 2014 12:36 a.m.

    what ever happens confident whatever pick we sure Lindsey and the gang would get the job done...with the lessons learned from a full year of being Starters and major expecting a lot next season...a fringe playoff spot?

  • jzz Draper, UT
    Jan. 14, 2014 10:27 p.m.

    Nobody is asking the players to tank. Nobody wants the players to give anything but 100% effort. It is the responsibility of Jazz management to assure the jazz get a top pick and the only way for them to assure that is to make some trades before the trade deadline and give Ty no choice but to play young and inexperienced players. The young guys on this team show some promise and they may have a good game or two but if they are left to themselves,there is no way they will be able to keep up the pace over an 82 game season. You may call that tanking, I call it player development. I'm hoping the trade wheels are turning in the Jazz back office.

    Jan. 14, 2014 9:41 p.m.

    Since when did Forbes become a basketball expert? Without a go to super star, the Jazz will be a first or second round loser for the next several years, then we will start rebuilding all over again. One year could make this franchise financially successful for a decade. The Jazz just need to follow the Spurs example, and give them self a chance to succeed.

  • JP Chandler, AZ
    Jan. 14, 2014 7:47 p.m.

    @Brad Rock
    You really believe Hayward is their best player? I think you're placing far too much value on his one great game this year.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Jan. 14, 2014 7:31 p.m.

    Don't worry about the Jazz tanking...they'll be mediocre and not make he playoffs yet again. So they'll lose out on both ends of the spectrum. Again.