MrPlate, sorry I didn't read bjhp's comment first, I understand where
you're coming from a little better now. I still stand by my comment,
though, that I agree with how the NBA runs its rookie eligibility requirements.
It creates a situation where kids are strongly encouraged to get at least some
education and maturity, but still allows them to enter the draft young enough
for the possibility for a lot of playing years ahead of them.
@joe5 - if someone with mad skills wanted one of those jobs from Bill Gates or
Steve Jobs, and it was apparent that person represented superior talent and
abilities in comparison to the applicant with a college education, I'm
guessing they would overlook the degree requirement to have the best talent.
That's a no-brainer, unless U.S. regulations required the education for
some reason.I've acknowledged that a college education and
collegiate athletic experience is the superior route of preparation for almost
every pro wannabe. You have not shown how a college education is a necessary
requirement in all cases for playing basketball.Some arguments are
weak contradictions. To think top businessmen would pass over world-class
talent over an education technicality is nothing more than silliness.
I don't have a dog in this fight. Whatever requirements are set by the NBA
are fine with me. It's their business and they can run it however they
want. But some arguments just beg for contradiction.The company Bill
Gates owns requires you to have a college degree to fill certain jobs such as
technical and management positions. Same with the company owned by Steve Jobs.
Using Bill Gates or Steve Jobs in this argument is nothing more than silliness.
@StGtoSLC - I believe in free market capitalism. The NBA can set whatever
requirements they want. I don't see the point in requiring anything other
than basketball-related skills, physical fitness, and good citizenship, but they
can run their business however they want.If a great basketball
player doesn't attend college, should he be prohibited from playing NBA
ball at age 20? 25? 30? 40? Remember I was originally responding to bj-hp. How
is a college education necessarily connected to an ability to contribute in the
NBA, and why should it be required?Also, I said nothing about the
training ground of college athletics, overseas experience, or whatever strategy
one might use to prepare for a professional basketball career. Why
couldn't someone hire Karl Malone as a tutor until he's ready?
Probably a poor strategy, but if it worked for someone, why required a college
degree? In a free country, an ill-prepared athlete should be able to market his
talents any time he chooses, and suffer the consequences of poor preparation.
It's probably a very good idea for nearly every player to earn a degree and
hone athletic skills through collegiate competition. Why should it be required?
Since I first heard his name a little more than a year ago. I predicted Jabari
would go on a mission. A top high school prospect who was attending early
morning seminary. That tell tale sign was an indicator he was putting the lord
ahead of his college choice. This year, from another article he's attending
the Seminary Institute near Duke when he's able too. I'am thinking
he's putting the lord before an NBA contract. Jabari appears to be a man of
the lord, and not of the world. I still think he goes on a mission. However, if
he has the same conversations with LDS leaders that Steve Young had, and a few
other top LDS athletes. He could be advised his mission in life to serve the
lord is by staying in the spotlight by going to the NBA.
MrPlate, pro players aren't starting their own business by playing
basketball. Just like companies have requirements on their employees' age,
necessary education, experience, etc., the NBA has the prerogative to set
similar requirements. As it stands, attending college isn't required by the
NBA, but the age and necessary time out of high school requirements certainly
don't discourage it. A large part of this is an attempt to help their own
image by having more emotionally mature and stable players that have a better
chance at lasting in their career. Prior professional playing experience
overseas and/or some college education with a structured team environment are
good proving grounds and a way to mature and develop. It doesn't work for
everyone, obviously, but I think it does a decent job of weeding out a larger
portion of busts and unprepared players than the prior rules allowing any high
school player to go directly into the NBA.
CB's irrational logic comparing Jimmer to Haws is so far off base I
don't know where to even start. But let me just throw this out. If Haws
continue to be the best player and leading scorer in the state he will pass
Jimmer on the scoring leaders list at BYU. There is something for CB to chew on
while he is coming up with his next irrational thought.
@bj-hp - why should basketball players have to attend college before they play
in the NBA? Should Bill Gates be allowed to start a business before attending
college? Should Mark Zuckerberg have been required to finish college before
starting Facebook? Should Peter Jennings have been prohibited from anchoring
the news because he did not attend college? Should Hollywood give anyone a role
who has not finished college? What obligation does anyone have to
enrich an institution of higher education and the NCAA before marketing their
God-given, hard-earned skills in a free country? Sounds like indentured
servitude to me. Going to college may be a great idea, but in a free country,
why should it be required to play sports?
@AL -- Thanks for providing me an idea for what I will pray for next time I give
family prayer :-)
Chris B many years ago there was a young man in New Zealand that had the
greatest opportunity to be one of the great rugby players of all time. He was
projected to go to one of the most prestigious teams in rugby. Many felt that
giving up this opportunity to go on a mission would cost him his projection. He
went on the mission anyway and came back that did include a very prestigious
career in ruby being one of the greatest to ever play the game.Going
on a mission will never harm you if you have the talent and the ability to go to
the next level. In my opinion no player should be allowed in the NBA to play
until they have completed college. This means Lebron James would have had to go
to college before entering the NBA. Yes, he is a great basketball player but
what happens if tomorrow he suffers a career ending injury. No college, nothing
but sports, he ends up where most others end up. Back where they started. No a
mission is good, a college better and best for the individual. It isn't up
to anyone but Jabari.
Chris B. : I don't know how much knowledge you have about missions but I do
see you posts and comments about BYU sports and Mormons and it seems you have
nothing positive to say and are always wanting to degrade or criticize. Whether
it is J. Parker or any other athlete deciding or thinking of going on a mission
, it isn't about the sport or even him physically or his ability to play
after his mission, it is about the mission and the positive impact it can and
would have on his life and the life of those he would find and work with while
on his mission. Going on a mission can be tough on a kid physically but like
Hawes or Collie if you are smart and use the time given you as a missionary you
can keep in OK shape, not good or great but good enough to be OK when they get
home. I don't really think Parker will go on a mission but I hope he does,
it would be a great thing for him personally for his future.
Whether Parker goes on a mission or not is his choice and his alone.
That's between him and his God, and whatever that choice may be will not
make him any less of what he already is...a great kid with a lot of class and
talents. God will still love him whether he goes or not.
I wish people would stop giving him advice about what to do. I can't
imagine anything more hypocritical than telling somebody about what to do about
something so personal. It's on the level of bragging about how humble one
is. Yes, there are people in place to give him proper advice. But I'm
guessing not a single person who posts here is one of them. Let's let
these young guys make their own decisions and support them for the positive they
do. We only see a tiny fraction, and I mean really tiny fraction, of their
lives and have no idea about all the factors they have to consider in making the
decision. I for one know I would hate to be making a decision about a mission
under a microscope. Even though I was at BYU, I wasn't sure until the last
minute whether I would go. And it would not have helped at all to have a whole
bunch of people in social media who do not know me telling me what to do.
There's a sneaky benefit to drafting Parker and sending him out on a
mission. If you're a lousy team (which you are if you're drafting him
assuming going on a mission doesn't make him tumble down the draft board)
then having him gone for two years lets you stay awful and get another 1-2
really high draft picks the following years.
@cletusBYU fan, let's hold off trying to make fun of the Utes.
Please keep this discussion on Parker, a gifted LDS athlete, and keep the banter
between Utah and BYU out of it.
He will never go to a second rate basketball program like BYU. if he wanted to
go to BYU so badly, he would've committed to them last year. Dave Rose is
no Mike Kryschevski. Not by a long shot.
I hope the Jazz still draft him even though he may go on a mission.
Wingnut,To say that Haws is good and therefore missions don't
affect playing skills is far from rational logic. How do you know Haws
wouldn't have been better had he not served? Based on your logic I could
say "Jimmer was good and that's because he didn't go on a
mission"Tell me whether more or less of the best Mormon kids
playing sports went on missions.Go look at all the Mormon guys
playing NFL, NBA, MLB and tell me how many went on a full 2 year mission. For
every 1 you give me, I'll give you 2 Mormon guys that didn't go on a 2
year mission and are in the big leagues.
While I don't necessarily believe that Jabari will go on a mission, I
definitely think that he should go. Missions don't affect playing skills.
Just look to Tyler Haws as an example. The blessings of going on a mission are
innumerable (I have had 7 siblings serve) and it is a commandment from the Lord
that every able bodied young man should serve a mission. Jabary is such a strong
member, he would make a stellar missionary! I hope for the best for him either
What we are really praying for is for Jabari to go on a mission, then while on a
mission decide to go to BYU. Then he can come back and play with Mika, Emery,
Haws etc. and win a national championship... and THEN play for the Jazz.
He could also transfer to BYU after his mission, and help them win a national
He would get drafted better if he went to the Utes because we are pretegous but
he didn't so he won't be number 1 in the nba draft now because of
Wilbon is hilarious! Yes, we are praying for a "black Mormon" to go to
the Jazz. However, not for his faith, but because of his skills. The fact that
he is LDS and a good representation of the church is a bonus. I would wait two
years in a heart beat for him.
Like I said before it is possible he could go on a mission but come back for
another year of college bb but never inmagine GM would draft him now and then
wait. It is up to Jabari and up stairs what he wants to do. Shawn Bradley was
not ready to play nba but I think the 76ers didn't have the patient on
Shawn the Mission Impossible.
My recommendation would be to not go on a mission. Everyone can decide what is
best for them and most likely the best decision for him would be to go land a
big NBA contract. If that's his dream, a mission wont help that -
he's already as high as he possibly could be going into the NBA draft. A
mission could only hurt that, no upside.My guess is he wont go on a