Letter: Birth of Freedom

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  • RFLASH Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 8, 2014 2:43 p.m.

    Oh brother! Nobody is taking away your freedom of believing whatever you want! Nobody is is taking away your right to live your religion. What you are trying to say, sir, is that the minority do not get to share in those rights which you freely give to yourselves! You completely ignore the fact that gay people have their own beliefs! We do not believe what you do about who we are! So, who are you to take away our freedom to live our life just like you get to live yours! Too bad this state isn't run by Muslims. I think, then you might get an idea of what I am talking about! If the majority of the population were not Mormon or Christian, then you would see it, wouldn't you! The constitution was set up to protect the minority from what you want to do! It is the majority that usually denies the minority their right as in the case of slavery. They found that what was being done to blacks was unconstitutional despite the people, who are like you, that felt the majority should be able to decide!

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 8, 2014 11:27 a.m.

    'God has effectively been eliminated from our government…'

    *'Federal judge dismisses Summit suit against Pleasant Grove' - By Dennis Romboy - DSNews - 06/04/10

    "A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit against the city that claim it violated the establishment clause of the US consitution by ALLOWING a Ten Commandments monument by REJECTING one showing the the Salt Lake-based religious sect’s beliefs. The clause in the First Amendment prohibits government from adopting a national religion."

    Before some start making claims…

    they should really learn to do some research.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 8, 2014 11:00 a.m.

    'God has effectively been eliminated from our government…'

    What a load of rubbish.

    What is on the dollar?

    What was added to our declaration in the 1950's.


    And today, we continue to see 60% of American christians claim they are being 'persecuted'…

    by claiming there is a 'war on christmas' and their God.

    If you are a majority, odds are, you are a not a minority.


    And if you are a majority…

    America is still not a Theocracy.

    I don't care if 99.99% of America supports the church of the FSM, we still have ever legal right in America to practice our own faiths, side by side…

    even if they disagree.

    And one especially does not have the 'right' to force those beliefs…

    on anyone who does not want them.

    So the next time someone wants to claim our government has effectively 'eliminated' God from our government…

    I want them to look at Utah. Using $2 million of my dollars to fight against marriage equality, based most likely on religious arguments.

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    Jan. 8, 2014 10:41 a.m.

    I am frankly surprised when my fellow LDS insist that God is being driven from our government. According to our own D&C 134, "We do not believe it just to mingle religious influence with civil government, whereby one religious society is fostered and another proscribed in its spiritual privileges, and the individual rights of its members, as citizens, denied." When we make inappropriate reference to God in denying others their rights, we are violating this commandment. Obviously.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Jan. 8, 2014 9:40 a.m.

    I totally agree with this letter. Absolutely. I am the biggest booster of freedom there is. But, and here's the kicker, it applies to all or none. This includes the Satanist group that wants to put a monument in the Oklahoma capitol building right now. It has to. The state let someone put the ten commandments in there, and in the name of this freedom either we're hypocrites or we have to be prepared to allow the worst of the lot in the door (which one that is has yet to be determined) and given equal stance. So either we keep them all out of our secular government institutions or they all get in and we give them the rope to choke us with.

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 8, 2014 9:10 a.m.

    When people go over the top in arguing their opinion they do harm to their opinion and their argument. God has not been eliminated from government although some religious advertising has been criticized and religious people feel that God and their advertising is the same thing, but it's not.

    When the Deseret News publishes such a letter out of the hundreds of letters received for publication, who are they targeting. Is it the really dumb people who cannot recognize the difference between truth and false. Or is it to tease grumpy old men into wasting their time on arguments made of smoke.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Jan. 8, 2014 7:39 a.m.

    Not sure where this letter writer is trying to go with this...

    My 1st thought is a jab at Liberals and Democrats [beecause it's Utah, and AM radio talk shows rule the place], to which I whole heartledly DIS-agree.

    IF he is chiming in about the upper 1%, who OWN 80% of this country - including the Politicians, THEN were getting somewhere...

  • Ranch Here, UT
    Jan. 8, 2014 7:27 a.m.

    Robert, I couldn't care less if you "acknowledge god".

    It really bothers me when you attempt to violate the rights of other Americans and use your "god" as your excuse though.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Jan. 8, 2014 7:09 a.m.

    We are seeing a birth of freedom for the minorities, long the subject of tyranny of the majority. The Constitution is working to protect the rights of minorities. Good!.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 8, 2014 7:07 a.m.

    The legalization of marijuana has started this rebirth. Increasing the speed limits is another step.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    Jan. 8, 2014 6:10 a.m.

    Totally agree with this letter.

    We need a flood of freedom to overrun this country so we can say more offensive things and create more bigoted laws!

    Freedom Rules!

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 8, 2014 6:01 a.m.

    We do need a new birth of freedom. Freedom from the Plutocracy that is controlling all facets of our nation. Political correctness has virtually nothing to do with it. The government will not prevent you from saying what you want, nor will it punish you for doing so.