Protecting This HouseKVN is a great player, but he was speaking for
himself when he said that the rivalry game was his super bowl.On the
other hand, it's blatantly obvious from the posts of the vast majority of
Utah fans on this blog that the Utes would rather beat BYU, than go to a bowl.
Should we be marking something down with this hire?
@scenic view:Correction. Although indignant Y fans insist that The
Rivalry Game is the Utes' bowl game, it is actually YbU's "Super
Bowl" as stated by the best linebacker to ever don Cougie blue. (Who
coincidentally, never actually won said "Super Bowl.") Of course
he'll enjoy NFL glory and his millions, as he deservedly should, but deep
down inside, losing the rivalry "Super Bowl" four consecutive tries will
eat at him for the rest of his days.
CougarSunDevil,"Anyone who compares the two have obviously never
played football or been to war."First, let me sincerely thank
you for your service to our country. Second, I played several years of
organized football and I also served in both the Air Force and the Army. I am
now retired with full military benefits. My comment was not meant to demean or
draw an exact comparison to war and football. But I do know from my own
experience that the methods and management styles used by both football coaches
and military commanders are very similar. For instance, football teams often
take on the personality of the head football coach just as military units take
on the personalities of their commanders. That is why in the war college
courses that I attended throughout my career management styles of military
commanders and football coaches were studied side by side.
2020"I don't understand why BYU would keep railing on Utah
getting new offensive coordinators."Does 4-5, 3-6, 2-7 help your
understanding?------------Scary thought for Utah fans to
contemplate for the 2016 BYU game:Jameis Winston was the co-MVP of
the Elite 11 QB Camp in 2011.Winston's co-MVP was Tanner
Mangum, who will be BYU's starting QB in 2016.
I don't understand why BYU would keep railing on Utah getting new offensive
coordinators. We have had a new offensive coordinator and a new quarterback
every year, and BYU still can't outscore them.
Cougfan in tx and RockwellI'll write slowly. The article was
about Christensen not DE . DE was a head coach with a good offensive mind
when he had his success not offensive coordinator. He's good,
Christensen's better. Also, DE's success is no where near as recent
as Christensen's.And I haven't conveniently ignored
anything. I don't care what Christen's record was as a head coach and
whether his opponents were were of the same talent or not. He's being
hired - as- the - Offensive - Coordinator.
"In issues of war, like football"I'm borderline
offended by anyone's analogy of football compared to war. Anyone who
compares the two have obviously never played football or been to war. Having
done both, nothing is similar, not personnel changes, not reassignments,
Yeah, I warned you guys about Erickson. You didn't listen. Utah keep hiring
people who are has-beens or never-was. How come Utah can't pull someone
from the Big 12 or those other conferences? Because no one wants to freeze!
CougfaninTX,As General Patton demonstrated in WW II a leader does
not have years to determine if staff changes need to be made. In issues of war,
like football, staff changes need to be made immediately, but again like Patton,
a leader does not necessarily need to fire people to put effective people in the
"Focus on beating the Utes in 2016, priority numero uno!"BYU
fans have much more important things to focus between now and Utah's next
Stringer BellYou're conveniently ignoring the fact that
Christensen was competing against teams with like talent.Wasn't
Erickson also "nationally recognized" as an offensive guru?
Christine B. Hedgehog,No one is suggesting that KW is General
Patton. Especially me. I have been a critic of KW on other issues. My comment
was meant to point out that other bonafided leaders like Patton have handled
staff changes and subordinates in much the same way as KW is doing at Utah.
Demanding performance by subordinates and then replacing them with someone else
when that performance is not achieved but at the same time keeping them on staff
is employed by many successful leaders like Patton. It remains to be seen if
this will work for KW. I am one who hopes that it does.As for Chris
Hill, I am sure he has given subtle warnings if not direct warnings to KW about
his employment status in much the same way Patton did to the one General that
Patton did remove.
@Stringer Bell - "Again for all of you slow readers, this man was hired as
the Offensive Coordinator because of his recent and relevant experience that was
nationally recognized in that position. Not because he was the former head coach
for three years at Wyoming."Are you talking about Christensen or
Erickson? U could make the exact same statement with either of them. U thought
Erickson would be your savior last year, just like Brian and Chow before that.
Now U think Christsen is the guy who will bring U glory. One year
was not enough to prove whether Erickson could energize the offense. He should
have been give a few years, just like his predecessors should have been give
Remember whenSt George, UT"My Perspective. The poll
referenced is a 2014 Preseason prediction. It has nothing to do with the season
just ended."Thanks for the clarification. I wondered where in
the world Duckhunter got his information and now I'm wondering if he
presented it to intentionally mislead. In typical Duckhunter fashion, could he
have made it any less clear? Pre-season 2014 ranking by USA Today?? Now
that's a ranking we can all take to the bank! Good grief. Actually, 25 might just work out for the cougs in USA Today as long as no one
looks at the schedule Holmoe has lined up. The cougs could finish 11-1.
However, I have to think that when the cougar faithful start looking, in
earnest, at the 2014 schedule especially the home games it will be 2011 and 2012
all over again. It will be fun to watch.
A lot of yappin' from the folks down south. Focus on beating the Utes in
2016, priority numero uno!
Some assistant coaches who have prospered as OC's struggle when elevated to
the position of head coach. Not sure of the reason. Maybe they just fit better
in a less stressful environment.Gary Crowton comes to mind. Hired as
BYU's head coach in 2001 because of his great offensive work with
QB's, he was let go in 2004 after three consecutive losing seasons. Yet in
2008 he won a national championship with LSU as their OC.You never know
what piece of the puzzle is going to fit just right.Good luck to the
Utes and their new hire in Christensen
"What happened to the mighty pac10.2 recruiting prowess?"They take the good talent from the MWC. ie:Chris Peterson, Matt Wells could be
Being an offensive coordinator for Coach Kyle is somewhat like being an Admiral
for Darth Vader. You get one shot at fixing everything. It will be a major cause
of celebration if Christensen i still the OC this time next year.
@Stringer BellTHANK YOU!! 'Nuff said.
Next man up in 2015 - Lane Kiffin.
How can the pac10.2 power utes be looking at the lowly MWC for leadership AND
talent?What happened to the mighty pac10.2 recruiting prowess?MWC coach and a MWC qb... both from Wyoming?chris/chrisb/christopher must be turning over in their red cool aid!LOL
Wow, Whit is now George Patton? So I guess we'll see the statue of him out
in front of the foaming ice font building soon? Cool!Now if only Dr.
Hill would take the same responsibility and "reassign" failed personnel.
Many have questioned KW's management style and have been very critical of
his many changes at the OC position. Here is a quote from the wikipedia write up
of General George Patton: "As a leader, Patton was known to be highly
critical, correcting subordinates mercilessly for the slightest infractions, but
also being quick to praise their accomplishments. While he garnered a
reputation as a general who was both impatient and impulsive and had little
tolerance for officers who had failed to succeed, he fired only one general
during World War II, Orlando Ward, and only after two warnings, whereas Bradley
sacked numerous generals during the war." Seems as though KW has many of the
Patton traits, like not always firing people but demanding performance and thus
finding others to fill new roles and reassigning others to another position. I
hope this works for KW.
No mention about how thrilled Brian Johnson must be. OC, to Co-OC, to QB coach,
to ???? Will he be waterboy for Whitt's defense at Washington State after
this year?It wasn't long ago that some of my fellow Ute fans
were proudly declaring that Erickson would replace Whittingham on the
program's way to annual National Championships. Oops, we missed on that
prediction too.Welcome to Utah Coach Christensen, and the
prestigious PAC-12 - the conference that gets every team in the league with an
actual pulse a bowl game. I know Whit hits rewind and replay on the
"it's tough to play in our league week after week" comment but 9
teams still managed to qualify for bowl games this year, in spite of the
"grind".I love the prospects of a new football season in
East Salt Lake. It makes all of us Ute fans proud to once again be eligible to
go to the Rose Bowl (if only in our own minds and if only until reality again
sets in, as it annually does)I wonder who will replace Christensen
at OC after next season.
@CougarFaninTX: A record of 4-8, wow you are way more positive than I am about
the Utes record next year. Idaho State is a gimme of course. But I see Fresno
State, Colorado, and Washington State as toss-ups. The rest of the PAC 10+2
games are sure losses as well as the Michigan game. At best I am thinking 2-10.
Next year may be Colorado's year against the Utes, so a 1-11 is not a
stretch for them. The Ute coaching staff better go fast and hard, or they will
be looking for jobs in December.
Re: Troy TownSo what? Let Bronco go to Wyoming and attempt to
recruit there and see what his outcomes are. Again for all of you slow readers,
this man was hired as the Offensive Coordinator because of his recent and
relevant experience that was nationally recognized in that position. Not
because he was the former head coach for three years at Wyoming.
My Perspective. The poll referenced is a 2014 Preseason prediction. It has
nothing to do with the season just ended.
Re: Horrible Stumper " Replace a coach who has won a national championship
with a man who has won....nothing."First- he was hired to be the
Offensive Coordinator, not the head coach.Second- he was recently
awarded the National Offensive Coordinator of the Year when he was at Missouri,
a team now in a big time conference (SEC) something your team know's
nothing about or probably ever will.As good as DE is, this guy is
better and his offensive experience much more up to date and relevant. You
should be more "stumped" over your team's decision to go
independent and disappear from the national scene.
Sorry to burst your crimson bubble christy, butWyoming's 52nd
in points per game team LOST to Nebraska, Texas State, Colorado State, San Jose
State, Fresno State, Boise State, and Utah State, to finish 5-7.Versus the Broncos and Aggies, the Cowboys were held to 7 points.BSU 48 Wyo 7USU 35 Wyo 7By comparison, BYU's go fast,
go hard offense scored over 30 points versus the Broncos and Aggies.BYU 37 BSU 20BYU 31 USU 14Christensen was obviously picked
to carry on thate glorious 5-7, bowl-less season tradition that BJ and DE have
Did anyone actually look at the final ranking in USA Today or are just teeing
off on Duckhunter's comment? Here's the ranking.. 1
Florida State2 Auburn3 Michigan State4 South Carolina5
Missouri6 Oklahoma7 Clemson8 Alabama9 Oregon10
Stanford10 Ohio State12 Central Florida13 Baylor14
LSU15 Louisville16 UCLA17 Oklahoma State18 Texas
A&M19 USC20 Arizona State21 Wisconsin22 Duke23
Vanderbilt24 Notre Dame25 NebraskaOthers Receiving
VotesWashington 67; Fresno State 54; Northern Illinois 21; Marshall 17;
Texas Tech 13; Kansas State 11; Mississippi 7; Texas 4; Miami (Fla.) 4; East
Carolina 3; Cincinnati 3; Arizona 2; North Texas 2; Utah State 2; Navy 1;
Louisiana-Lafayette 1. The only thing factually correct about
Duckhunter's comment is that Utah State received votes. Note that Texas
received only 4 votes. byu is nowhere in this poll which is exactly what is
expected given their mediocre performance with a soft schedule.
Some people can't put 2013 in the rear view mirror fast enough..."USA Today's 2014 top 25 is out, BYU at 25"The Circle
of Hype begins.
I can't say I believe that Erickson is OK with this. He has a stellar
resume, including a national championship and professional head coaching
experience. I'd be surprised if he sticks around just to take a back seat
to Christensen. He'll jump if the right opportunity comes along.
North Guy,There's not a Ute or cougar fan on the planet that longs
for the days of the MWC.Duckhunter,Check the final Sagarins
for football, I think next year will end up much the same as will this year for
basketball.This hire better show promise right away next season, if
not Kyle and the majority of the offensive staff might get their walking papers
before the season is over. Matt Wells, stay close to your phone.
It is not widely known, but before the advent of the ancient Mayan calendar,
people use to keep track of the years by the annual "ute new oc
announcement"Is doing the same thing over and over but expecting
something different the norm at utah now?#redcoolaid
Both Utah & BYU are involved in transition periods within their respective
programs, putting all the money aside that comes with the "prestige" of
being in a "power" conference and a better schedule with more
"exposure" I wonder if both programs long for the day's of the
Mountain West Conference.
@gdog3finallyWest Jordan, Utah"Record aside. Utah beat BYU
head to head AGAIN. Utah's best win was over Stanford. BYU had the Texas
win. The Stanford win trumps the Texas win."Why must you insist
on belittling BYU's win over Texas as oppose to Utah's win over
Stanford? Quite honestly, I think both of those wins were great for your
program. Consider this and then tell me if this isn't something that Ute
fans shouldn't appreciate and be proud of...Utah beat BYU,
which annihilated Texas, who destroyed Oklahoma, which humiliated Alabama in
their final BCS bowl. I think that's something to at least feel good
about, don't you think?
I hope this one works out. The revolving door at OC has to end.As
far as Utah-BYU goes; Utah beat beat BYU on the field (20-13) and in the Sagarin
Rankings (#34 vs #35), and played a tougher schedule (#3 vs #38). Poor Coug fans
lost in the poll that they always reference, year after year. They can't
win on the field so they use this ranking as the end all, be all. It must be
tough knowing your rival was better than you, even when they have a horrible
season by there standards. Utah wins the battle and the war.....Ouch!
It's obvious Coach W knows something about this new OC hire that many
don't. Perhaps this is the final piece to the puzzle that they need and I
hope it is for his own sake. Not sure his job will be safe after another year
of mediocrity and couch bowling. There's no question that the Pac 12 is a
premier conference and the competition is getting even stronger and tougher.
This new guy has his work cut out for sure. My concern is, how truly do we know
that Coach Erickson is 100% ok with his demotion? I mean it's got to be
demoralizing to him as a coach of his stature and experience with a NC on his
resume. If his pay is being reduced, then I don't see how he can be 100%
happy about his new role. I'm just saying!
I'm already wondering who the new OC will be in 2015?At this
point, nobody knows what kind of impact Christensen will have on the offense,
and whether he will be looked upon as a good hire or bad hire. But one thing is
for sure, replacing Erickson with Christensen shows the pressure Whit has on him
to win, which is not likely in 2014. This could be a one and done for
Christensen if Whit is shown the door after 2014.I have no problem
conceding the Utes strength of schedule, but what is clear is that Utah is not
ready to play a PAC12 type schedule. 2014 looks like another tough schedule
with another losing record. I'm predicting 4 - 8.But please
don't take shots at the Cougs schedule in 2013. Our schedule was about the
middle of all the "BCS" teams. I'll take a schedule like that any
year. P.S. Has anyone heard if Langi or Hansen will come back to
the Utes after their missions? I've heard both are looking at other
What makes them think this is a better hire than ASU's Erickson or Chow?
Both were known for their high-scoring offenses. If you keep firing a coach and
not letting him learn the system and the players, you'll never have
consistency. Now a coach is hired who took OT to beat Hawai'i
and could only score 7 points against a poor Boise defense and 10 against a poor
Fresno defense. Ended up in fourth place in his division? He got waxed by
every top 25 team save maybe one. Trying to be objective, but I don't know
how this hire is any better than Erickson.
gdog you should have been in the room when I asked some older Wyoming fans about
the U's new OC and they almost busted a gut laughing. "Good luck with
that!! Bwa-HA-HA-HA." (That's an exact quote.)If you miss
going to a bowl yet again next year, remember your little post on this article
and smile through the tears.While Texas might not have been a true
#15, Stanford was not a true #5, losing three games which a true #5 team will
not do, especially when one of them is to the 5th place team in a division of 6
teams (10th overall of 12 conference teams). And while your spouting about the
tremendous differences in strength of schedules, by just how many points was
your fluke win over Stanford, who barely lost on the last play, as opposed to
what BYU did to Texas?
Next year's story will start with the following (only needing to change the
names and replace a couple of seven's to eight's:It has
become an annual tradition for the University of Utah to name a new offensive
coordinator for the football team.On Tuesday morning, the Utes
introduced Ken Niumatalolo, former Navy head coach, as the eighth offensive
coordinator in the past eight years at a press conference at the Eccles Football
Center.Niumatalolo said he was excited for the opportunity to coach
with Kalani Sitake and added, “I’m thrilled to be here in Salt Lake
and coach in a conference where offenses are explosive.’’In a related story, Washington State announced today the hiring of new
defensive coordinator, Kyle Whittingham, formerly the head coach at Utah and a
close friend of Coach Mike Leach. Coach Leach stated that Coach Whittingham was
a brilliant defensive coordinator before his struggles managing Utah's
offensive coaching staff, a revolving door during Whittingham's tenure at
@ DuckhunterIt only matters where you finish. Speaking of which, in
Sagarin's final rankings for this past season:34- Utah35-
BYU41- Utah St.ouch.
Did you hear? The USA Today top 25 is out. It's very credible. All ranking
systems are. Speaking of popularity contests, did anyone see who wore the dress
at the Oscars better? Ginger or Maryanne? BYU is ranked because of
more wins against bad competition, have ESPN, and a fan following that makes the
bling shine. Utah has the worse record because they play the harder
schedule. I could care less about the Mickey Mouse Bowl. I choose the PAC 12
conference, it's schedule, and the hope of a special season. Either way, I
will support my Utes. Record aside. Utah beat BYU head to head
AGAIN. Utah's best win was over Stanford. BYU had the Texas win. The
Stanford win trumps the Texas win. As for overall record? Give Utah a schedule
with Virginia, Middle Tennessee State, GT, Houston, Idaho State, Nevada, and
even the once proud downward spiral Boise State program. Utah goes bowling every
time with that schedule. The schedules are not comparable. Head to
head is not everything, but it's a legit something. Going bowling is not an
indicator. Many teams with many schedules make some bowl. Sagarin ratings and
others are a laugh.
Wow, makes me think I have a shot at being the Ute's NEXT offensive
USA Today's 2014 top 25 is out, BYU at 25, USU receiving votes, utah
nowhere to be seen.
The Ute football program has largely squandered the opportunities made available
to them by joining the PAC 12. It all points back to the loss in the Colorado
game in 2011 and their inability to win when they should have. The theme
continued this year in their close loses to Oregon St, Arizona, Arizona St and
Wazzou. The last meaningful win for the Utes was against Alabama in the Sugar
Bowl. I have all the respect in the world for Whit. But just like McBride, it
looks like his time has come. It the Utes don't make it to a bowl this
year, his inability to successfully coach an offense should be the reason enough
for the Utes to head in a different direction.
One thing about the Utes you can question their coaching hires, and their teams
ability to compete in the PAC 10+2, but no one can knock their schedule. 1 - 11
is a real possibility next year. Seriously that is one tough schedule. 1 sure
win, 3 or 4 toss-ups, and 6 sure losses.
@ Chris B:Interesting to see that you are NOW a Go-fast Go-hard fan.
I guess it all depends on which team it is who implements it.Oh...
Congratulations on posting a comment that doesn't end with a silly
"LOL".I do wish the Utes well with this latest change and
hope that it increases their competitiveness in the PAC12. Doing so next year
with the schedule the Utes have won't be easy.
I'm thinking this is a good hire. Christensen is a tough, hard nosed coach
who appears to be unafraid to say what he thinks. That said, I'm looking
for some indication, any sign whatsoever, that Christensen will make this
offense his own. If he does, the near term future could indeed be bright.Note to Christensen: If you want to make the Ute fans believers in your
system, start with finding your own offensive line coach. Then, take a hard
look at the receivers coach. Is the Ute offense really yours or are you simply
going to play the hand you have been dealt with the personnel already in place?
Change for the sake of change is not needed or wanted just to get the fans to
the beginning of the next season with hope that the results will somehow be
different. That shell game won't work any longer. As for the
remarks at the press conference, we've heard it all before...almost
verbatim. Don't bother saying the offense is yours...show us.
@daviscoug Couldn't agree with you more. However even the most ardent Ute
fan can't see this as a positive. Replace a coach who has won a national
championship with a man who has won....nothing. Can't be a good sign. Coach
Whit can't decide what kind of offense he wants to run. I am not a Cougar
fan, but at least Coach Mendenhall takes responsibility, and has a clear vision
of where he wants his team to be. Whittingham seems like a man on a hot seat
grasping for straws....any straws.
Posters were posting the same negative comments about U B-ball and coach K not
long ago. To some people the sky is always falling. They either hate the U or
have a fatalistic view about life in general. Good hire.
anae's still open.....how many offensive coordinators can a team have in a
year? I think this makes about three in the last 12 months
When there are as many coaches as there are first teamers, you know the team is
getting ready for big-time football.
So, as I read it, the blame is ALL about the coach not getting the job done. IO
take exception to that. He does not put on a uniform. The players are the ones
who do or do not get the job done. Why not get new players each year(sic)?
No disrespect for Mr. Christensen but this is a horrible hire. Time
will tell and I am hoping I am wrong but I think this may be the straw that
breaks the camels back. Or at least it should be. Here's to
hoping we at least make it to a Bowl Game next year.
"I don't need titles, I just want to help the University of Utah
win."Props to Erickson.
@ Christopher B:LOL man!! Is there anything you can't spin
into a positive for the Utes and a negative for the Cougs?! Tell you
what.. I may not agree with hardly anything that you post but if I ever need a
spin doctor or head of PR you are THE man. Mark it DOWN!!!
Welcome to the Pac 12 coach.Great to have you on board. Go Utes, onward and upward
That 27-35 record before being let go at the end of the 2013 season wil get us a
bowl game next year for sure for sure! We are becoming even more prestegous than
we already are!Go Utes!
Congrats to Utah. That got a good one in Christensen. Hopefully they can find
a healthy QB to help them get that offense to the next level.
This is a really good hire. He could really help the Utes make a big step.He should have beaten Nebraska. Injuries decimated his team throughout the
year.He has also taken very average qbs and turned them into NFL
Good enough for 4th place in the PAC 12 North.
Christensens Wyoming team was 52nd in the nation last year in points per game.
A local program with a prolific go fast go hard offense was 56h.So in other words, Ute fans, get ready for a go fast go hard offense
that puts up a TON of points next year!Go Utes!
Well, here goes nothin'!