'Tiger Mom' says Mormons and Jews produce successful people

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  • vern001 Castle Rock, CO
    Jan. 9, 2014 10:20 a.m.

    Isn't anyone bothered by this singling out of certain races/religions as "superior" to everyone else? Are blacks and Catholics to be considered lesser? Chua ignores all kinds of historical factors that might explain why one group, on average, doesn't make as much money as another. And at the end of the day, does making more money and having a more prestigious job make you a better person? I doubt it.

  • christoph Brigham City, UT
    Jan. 9, 2014 7:55 a.m.

    And 69 percent of Jews in the USA voted for Mr. Obama in 2012.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 7, 2014 8:42 p.m.

    Johnny Moser
    Thayne, WY

    The Orient focuses on its top tier students. The United States focuses on the lower middle.

    They don't teach their top ties students optimally in that they push them too hard. We don't do ours justice in that our curriculum has been watered down and isn't worthy of our best students Our future professionals, scientists and engineers.

  • Johnny Moser Thayne, WY
    Jan. 7, 2014 6:36 p.m.

    Having lived in China for more than two years now, I would argue that the "orient" and its performance standards for mathematics compared to the US is an apples versus oranges comparison. The US measures ALL students while the orient has already separated the students by grade 8 and only measures those that are going to college. The tech students and less motivated peasants are not in those advanced math classes and aren't being measured in the bulk score. I will take the lower scores in the US because what it really means is that any kid can become something else at anytime. The orient and its high scores have already sorted and discarded those that aren't "worth the time". Yup, I like giving all of the kids a chance even when it means the scores are lower. Not every kid has a "tiger mom" and our teachers and PTA know it, but some of them despite their background and opportunity still manage to become some of the best and brightest. Late bloomers are lost in the orient, the are discarded before they get to bloom.

  • UTSU Logan, UT
    Jan. 7, 2014 6:07 p.m.

    Although I think this tiger mom is obnoxious, I have to admit, we need to borrow maybe just a little bit of her parenting philosophy. Nowadays, kids spend much time watching TV, playing video games, on facebook, everything except in school work.

    When I was a teaching assistant at Utah State Univ., I met too many students with sub-standard math skills, no wonder we have to import foreign engineers and scientists to do the job.

    It is funny that when our students practice hard for a ball game, people praise them as hard working, but when students spend time to advance academic excellence, their peer students call them nerd or geek. Do they really believe many kids can make a living by playing professional sports?

  • mauister Wailuku, HI
    Jan. 7, 2014 5:42 p.m.

    I believe the goal setting drive of Mormonism helped me accomplish what I have in my life. The growing up I did as a Mormon missionary, while depriving me of much of my youth, taught me more about running a business and being successful than my college or law school education ever could or did. While I will never step foot in a Mormon church again, I will always be appreciative of my Mormon culture, which I still claim is a part of me today.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    Jan. 7, 2014 5:33 p.m.

    Living correct principles leads to success in life. That is what the LDS Church tries to instill in its members. These are eternal principles and they lead to happy successful lives,

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 7, 2014 4:59 p.m.

    Tiger mom put her kids through 'boot camp' during their childhood so they would qualify to go to Harvard. My impression is she was more concerned about where her kids went to University than she was about their actual education, seemingly pride was much of her motivation. Great thinkers need to take time to ponder and to day dream.

    Kids pushed that hard do well in their studies as students, but they get burned out such that their love of learning is diminished or destroyed. In the Orient their math students do better than ours in part because they are pushed so hard. However their mathematicians aren't as productive or innovative because by the time they graduate, they have lost much of their love of learning.

    One advantage the Orient does have over us is that the quality of their curriculum is quite high, ours has been watered down.