Randy Hollis: Here are some good (and goofy) sports predictions for 2014

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  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Jan. 8, 2014 4:39 p.m.

    @ Chris B.
    No sharing revenue with two more schools does not make sense. Many people have said BYU brings the money but there is no other good expansion option.
    Big 12 schools make as much money with 10 teams as the Pac does with 12 and a title game.
    Actually informing yourself on the situation would make the education your schools provides be a lot more credible.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Jan. 8, 2014 2:50 a.m.

    @ Steven Jarvis

    I'm a Cougar fan to the 9's and I got to tell you, IF we turn down a Big 12 invite over Television rebroadcasting rights we should shut the sports program down because we are no longer interested in Exposure or in recruiting Elite talent...

    I guarantee you that a Big 12 membership brings a lot more inquisitive eyes than non-conference scheduling in November...

    We need to allow our kids to compete for all conference recognition and an elite conference trophy... And if we're not going to do that then we should expect every 4 and 5 star and even 3 star athletes to go and play where they will get better exposure... In fact, we should encourage our coaches to go some place where they can get better exposure and more money...

    This is not the church sports program and quite frankly, we have far too many cooks in the kitchen that have little to no understanding of what they are doing... Yet they are making the calls that are hurting us...

    Granted, this year we had a good schedule... That's one in a row because it drops off big time next year.

  • Jeff29 Draper, UT
    Jan. 7, 2014 10:17 p.m.

    As far as the Big12 goes there have been numerous reports that BYU and the BIG12 were in fairly serious discussions. Sunday play was an issue (specifically for Fox who wanted the option of televising the BIG12 Basketball Championship on Sunday). Ultimately, however, the main issue was that BYU pushed too hard regarding television rights (personally, I wish BYU would have backed away from their demands a little, but ultimately I'll trust the Board of Trustees).

    TCU was the benefactor of this as the BIG10 felt vulnerable (after 4 defections) and desperately wanted to get to at least 10. The BIG12 had been very clear that they had no desire to expand within their current footprint, however, due to the pressures of conference realignment, political pressures and the fact that they knew TCU would take pretty much any deal they were offered, TCU got the offer.

    This is all well documented and was hashed and re-hashed when this all went down. I'm pretty sure that Chris B and others are well aware of all of these issues and scenarios, but no matter how much they say they have moved on, can't quite get away from their Big Brother.

  • Jeff29 Draper, UT
    Jan. 7, 2014 9:59 p.m.

    @Chris B,

    Can we have an honest discussion about what happened with conference invitations? The PAC10 invited Colorado to join, knowing they would jump at the chance and hoping that it would destabilize the BIG12 enough to entice UT, OU and one other to join. This was a risk as it is no secret that the PAC 10 didn't want Colorado without the UT and OU, but they thought they had a good enough chance of luring them. In fact there was plenty of speculation at the time that there was already a tentative agreement with UT, but that the other BIG12 schools (and Texas politicians) put enough pressure on UT to get them to stay. Once UT said no, the PAC10 was in a bind; 11 didn't make any sense so they needed one more. Everyone knows that there was no chance that BYU was getting invited to the PAC12 because of social/political/religious reasons. From a financial and athletic standpoint, BYU made much more sense than Utah (feel free to prove this wrong when you dispute it).

  • Little Andy Tremonton, UT
    Jan. 7, 2014 5:12 p.m.

    I really enjoyed how we kept on the subject. What was it now???

  • Scores Idaho Falls, ID
    Jan. 7, 2014 4:33 p.m.

    "Just remember, the Pac 12 could have chosen BYU, but we didn't"
    Are you the head of the selection committee to decide who gets invited to the Pac 10+2?

    I attended the 50th class reunion from Rigby, Idaho this past summer. Had a great visit with Bill Byrne. Yes, he's from Rigby, Idaho. He was the A.D. at Oregon, then Nebraska and just retired a year ago after serving as the A.D. at Texas A&M for the past 12 years. I asked him what the biggest draw back was from BYU being invited to one of the so-called major conferences and he said, "all they have to do is play on Sunday". We all know that won't happen. But he said, "but they win and win big, then somebody will want them and Sunday play won't be an issue".

    No matter who you are or where you're from, seems that winning solves a lot of problems.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Jan. 7, 2014 3:52 p.m.

    Chris B: I wonder how much the Big 12 likes you speaking "for them" AGAIN?

  • DRay Roy, UT
    Jan. 7, 2014 3:12 p.m.

    Optimistic, Hollis has turned over a new leaf?

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    Jan. 7, 2014 2:58 p.m.


    Lets recap for you:

    Adding Utah justified expansion in the Pac 12
    Adding byU does NOT justify expansion in Big 12

    In others words: Utah is worth it, byu isn't.

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    Jan. 7, 2014 2:52 p.m.


    That's right. byu didn't add enough value to the Big 12 to justify inviting them.

    That's why byu wasn' invited

    Utah DID add enough value to justify inviting us to the Pac 12.

  • 81Ute Central, UT
    Jan. 7, 2014 1:33 p.m.


    Utah brought 20 national championships to the PAC when they joined.

  • BlackDiamond Provo, UT
    Jan. 7, 2014 12:42 p.m.

    Chris B
    We know that Utah is a Pac 12 team. Win a national championship first before you start claiming that you are in a conference of champions. I understand that BYU is not doing great either, but we have accomplished things that the Utes have not like National Champs, NFL MVP, Heisman trophy. Get on our level then you can start talking. Congratulations on being on the Pac 12 though.

  • The Ref RIVERTON, UT
    Jan. 7, 2014 12:08 p.m.

    Heres another predicition. Byu fans will complain about thier football schedule and say "I spent way to much money watching us play this team" Go Fast, Go Hard, Go Punt! Dave Christensen will show ya all how to run an offense with out a slogan.

  • UteTrog Phoenix, AZ
    Jan. 7, 2014 11:48 a.m.

    Chris B,

    I admit most Ute fans wear their pain too proudly. We need to accept that we are not that good. Maybe in the next few years, but I don't understand how knocking BYU is lifting Utah.

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Jan. 7, 2014 11:41 a.m.

    @ CB
    The Big 12 chose to stay at 10 teams because of financial issues. They determined that a championship game would not bring in enough revenue to justify expansion.

    I wonder if this is the education the U provides spouting off nonsensical rhetoric.
    Educating yourself is a wonderful thing.

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    Jan. 7, 2014 10:47 a.m.


    And what does it say about the person who was deemed a worse option(byu) than Whoopi Goldberg. If Utah is Whoopi, what is byu? Roseanne?

    Just remember, the Pac 12 could have chosen byu.

    But we didn't.

  • SlopJ30 St Louis, MO
    Jan. 7, 2014 9:59 a.m.

    I continue to be amazed at how giddy certain Utah fans seem to be about being the conference doormat. I keep picturing two scenarios:

    (1) Honey Boo Boo being invited to join Mensa as a joke and her getting all uppity about it.

    (2) Whoopi Goldberg being invited to be in the next SI swimsuit issue and not understanding all the barely-suppressed giggle-fits during the shoot.

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    Jan. 7, 2014 8:40 a.m.


    You do realize that the Big 12's last resort to get to 12 teams and have a championship game included inviting byu, and the conference opted to remain without a championship game rather than invite byu?


    The Pac 12 had the same option but decided inviting Utah was a good idea.

    The big 12 had the same option with byu and said "no thanks"

    And actually, Utah wasn't the LAST resort for the Pac 12, that honor goes to byu. You were behind us in the invite list and therefore we cant be last. You were!


  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    Jan. 7, 2014 7:32 a.m.

    Chris B,

    You do realize that Utah was the LAST resort for the PAC 12 right? You realize that when the PAC couldn't poach the Big 12 of Texas, Oklahoma, etc, that they SETTLED for Utah and Colorado. You do realize that had it not been for Texas, Utah would still be a MWC school right? Perhaps a little more gratitude and a lot less chest thumping.

    As for BYU joining a conference, BYU doesn't need the security of others to validate them right now. Maybe sometime, but conference affiliation isn't a point of mockery but rather a current state and likely a means to facilitate movement in the future.

  • BlackDiamond Provo, UT
    Jan. 6, 2014 10:36 p.m.

    I don't know why BYU and Ute fans are arguing. We both did not perform that great last season. It is not really looking good next season either. Who cares what conference you are in. Just make sure you win them. Let us wait until one of our teams get to Pasadena then we can start talking.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 6, 2014 7:02 p.m.


    Sunday play isn't an issue. The big 12 knows byu would never play on Sunday. And yet they wanted to have discussions.

    But through those discussions big 12 presidents realized once again byu isn't big 12 worthy.

    We(PAC 12) have realized it too and choose every day NOT to extend an invitation.

  • UteTrog Phoenix, AZ
    Jan. 6, 2014 6:37 p.m.


    At least they were invited, unlike us.

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    Jan. 6, 2014 6:36 p.m.

    Protecting this house,

    Remind me again how good your teams did. Oh wait.

  • Protecting This House Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 6, 2014 5:22 p.m.


    How enjoyable was bowl season for you, really? Both of your teams didn't bother showing up for their games.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    Jan. 6, 2014 5:14 p.m.

    @Chris B

    No formal invitation is ever given without first having discussions. The Big 12 knows exactly where BYU stands on the main issue of television rights. BYU wants rights to rebroadcast to its global market. The Big12 couldn't give BYU what it needs in that regard. Sunday play is another issue, but one I think was workable for the Big12. Giving TV rights was not, therefore no invitation was extended because BYU was known to be ready to turn one down if it had been offered.

    Independence has worked out fantastically for BYU's football brand. BYU expands globally and nationally its footprint and the program in turn promotes the church.

    With loyal fans like you Chris B. that will follow every game, every announcement and every article out there, BYU will continue to grow its footprint. You see, even though you absolutely dislike BYU you can't turn away from it. You have ten or more names that you use on this board, spend countless hours trying to be the first to comment and are totally obsessed with the program.

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    Jan. 6, 2014 3:30 p.m.

    byu turned down the big 12?



    Holmoe himself has said there was NEVER a big 12 offer. Good try.

    As for the big east, its a crumbling conference that no longer is considered one of the big boys due to the defections. Even TCU backed away after accepting an offer, and Boise said no thanks as well.

  • Robyuuki Lewisburg, PA
    Jan. 6, 2014 3:09 p.m.

    This has brought a smile during a down time. 2014 will be fun if half of what you say worksout. thanks for the fun

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    Jan. 6, 2014 2:00 p.m.

    @Chris B

    BYU never fit within the PAC 12 mold. BYU turned down offers privately to go to the Big East/AAC and likely the Big 12. As a fan I am thrilled with BYU being independent. I prefer it that way and wish BYU had done so back when I was in school in the nineties and the issue was discussed constantly in the school paper.

    BYU has the power to schedule all of its games. It has the right to rebroadcast and to broadcast games not picked up by a network. I can watch BYU play even when I am out of the country. BYU is bigger than any conference and is bigger than any rivalry when it comes to international recognition. Can't beat that. What I like the most about independence is not having to play the same old teams every year. Sure playing Utah and TCU was nice, but it was hard having Wyoming, New Mexico and other teams on the schedule. I would rather play a variety of programs like we do currently. Even playing Idaho was ten times better than Wyoming.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    Jan. 6, 2014 1:53 p.m.

    It is strange to not have a current tie-in for a bowl for BYU. That is where the ESPN contract helps. I suspect that unless BYU goes 12-0 they will not make the play-off ahead of any X-1 team from the larger conferences even with a fairly average schedule. 10-2 is very likely and an entry into a bowl that the Cougars haven't played in before. Beating UCF, Texas and Boise State on the road is not going to be easy.

    I absolutely want Wilson to recover. He is a stand-up individual. However, I do not want him to play as the starting QB. Wilson regressed as the season waned and having him start again after going through the problems doing so with Jordan Wynn caused the program just seems like De Ja Vu. Wilson needs to heel and back up Conner. He is just to much of a liability as a turn-over machine.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Jan. 6, 2014 1:23 p.m.

    Here's some more predictions for 2014:
    - RSL will be very good, despite losing their old coach.
    - Jazz will be very bad, despite this so-called "core" of young players they have.
    - Utah and BYU basketball will both make the NCAA tournament. Neither will go far.
    - BYU football will proclaim yet another national championship in August and be out of it in September. They'll go 9-3 and end up in a yet-to-be-announced bowl game that will be played in Kingman, AZ. Somewhere they will find another team who will accept an invite to the game, thereby giving BYU the chance to lose another bowl.
    - Utah football will proclaim improvement over 2013. They will post the same record as 2013.

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    Jan. 6, 2014 12:01 p.m.


    Why doesn't byu just join a big time conference so you don't have to worry about bowl affiliations?

    And then you could share in the big time money from all the big time bowls your conference plays in.

    Do you guys really prefer independence to being in the Pac 12 or Big 12?

  • Big 12 Call Yet? Ogden, UT
    Jan. 6, 2014 11:56 a.m.

    "After starting the season 5-0, thanks in part to a BYU offense that's going a little slower but scoring a lot more points, talk of a big-time bowl berth begins to build in Provo."

    And largely thanks to Utah not wanting to play byu any more and instead opting to play Michigan and Fresno, who present more of a challenge and are more respected opponents.

    But I still don't see byu's "quest" lasting 5 games.

    It usually ends sometime in the first 1-2 games

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    Jan. 6, 2014 11:22 a.m.

    You lost me at "Auburn Wins" I'm guessing making football predictions by looking through crystal basketball threw things off for you.


    10-2 typically doesn't = home. However, 5-7 does...Although you know that already.

  • LoveTheKittens Central, UT
    Jan. 6, 2014 11:12 a.m.

    BYU has no bowl contract in place for next and will be lucky if they can get in the Poinsetta Bowl. Currently, 10-2 = home.