Letter: Uncalled mockery

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  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 4, 2014 9:26 a.m.

    MSNBC routinely confirms that the left uses race baiting whenever they intellectually cannot engage in rational thought (which seems to be a significant portion of the time)

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    Jan. 3, 2014 10:31 p.m.

    2bits."-Liberals are making the race-based jokes (and expect a pass)." Have you read any of the liberals comments on this thread or do you just intentionally make stuff up?

    'One commentator on MSNBC made a stupid mistake'

    "This was racist and mocking. Those were the whole goals of the statement." Agreed. "

    Can you show me one liberal who has defended the comments?

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 3, 2014 5:29 p.m.

    Scott Clark is right, and kudos to him and his family for looking past race as they raise their children. We've come a long way, on the topic of race, thankfully.

    The next hurdle appears to be families with same gender parents, who are being openly ridiculed as being inferior, with tax money supporting the attacks!

    This is a shame, and in the future young people will be asking very uncomfortable questions about how good people not only condoned the marginalization of these parents, but joined in the cause.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 3, 2014 3:57 p.m.

    the old switcharoo,
    Very funny... But you are right. The shoe is totally on the other foot now days and conservatives and liberals have completely switched stripes.

    -Liberals are making the race-based jokes (and expect a pass).
    -Liberals are no longer tolerant (can't tolerate a hick celebrity expressing his personal views)
    -And Conservatives are the ones calling for more sensitivity, tolerance, and understanding (PC).

    It's like we have totally switched places isn't it?

  • the old switcharoo mesa, AZ
    Jan. 3, 2014 2:54 p.m.

    Ya, that was a bit rude.

    I'm delighted to hear all the conservatives calling for MORE sensitivity and understanding (PC)

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    Jan. 3, 2014 2:08 p.m.

    You know not one "liberal" on this thread or any other supported or tried to defend Harris-Perry. Yet here is the right parsing words and phrases in defense of Robertson. Unbelievable, except that it is.

    Ideology trumps all.

  • Confused Sandy, UT
    Jan. 3, 2014 11:43 a.m.

    For the record...
    This is actually what he said ""Start with homosexual behavior and just MORPH out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men,"

    I guess if you are looking at link, it might believe he linked them together, but in another since he link ALL immoral acts not just gays, but have relationships outside of marriage as well is a sin.

  • Confused Sandy, UT
    Jan. 3, 2014 11:37 a.m.

    "Seriously Badger? He likened homosexuality to bestiality, and then talked about how happy the "blacks" were back in the sixties. He never heard one complain".

    Uh... No, He listed what he considered immoral acts as defined through his understanding of scriptures.

    both Homosexual and bestiality was part of the list he quoted. He neither referred to nor link the two groups together.

    Only the far left inferred that he did, go back and read what he actually said.

    Your right he was suspended indefinitely, which is as close to firing without being actually fired. So the Duck Dynasty people decided to move on to another channel. Since A&E produced the shows, they have the right to replay them....

    As for the Romney thing, Most of the people on that panel realized or were made to realize they crossed the line and have since apologized. MSNBC has a history of this type of stuff..

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    Jan. 3, 2014 11:16 a.m.

    Seriously Badger? He likened homosexuality to bestiality, and then talked about how happy the "blacks" were back in the sixties. He never heard one complain.

    "MSNBC? Are they firing anyone? This was racist and mocking. Those were the whole goals of the statement." Agreed. Aren't you the one however who made claims quite recently that businesses have the right to do what ever they please? In addition Robertson wasn't fired and now he has been reinstated without losing a dime (they are paid by the episode, from which he missed none).

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Jan. 3, 2014 9:43 a.m.


    "Robertson was fired."

    I am pretty sure if you want to see Phil Robertson on TV, particularly on A&E, you will have no issues doing so. So where exactly was he fired from? You do realize there is a huge difference between being suspended and being fired. When you are fired, you no longer have a contractual relationship with the hiring entity. When you are suspended.... you are still under contract. Hence the often used "suspended with pay" when you hear of a police officer or a teacher being investigated of wrong doing.

    But yes, "fired" does sound ever so much more sensational.

    I am surprised anyone is noticing anything said on MSNBC.... I wasn't sure anyone actually watched them. I sure don't, and don't care what they have to say.

  • Badgerbadger Murray, UT
    Jan. 3, 2014 9:27 a.m.

    Prag -

    Robertson was fired. He wasn't mocking anyone. He was asked his opinion. He answered. He said he was attracted to women and women only, and couldn't see how any male would feel differently (although body parts were mentioned). He also said he thought SSS was a sin, his religious freedom to think so and his freedom of speech to say so.

    MSNBC? Are they firing anyone? This was racist and mocking. Those were the whole goals of the statement. Yet no heads roll. Lawrence O'Donnell is still there, after his inflammatory prejudiced rants. He still has his own show.

    MSNBC has no interest in ending prejudice. They use it for a club to bash anyone who they like, and cry foul if it is used by anyone else.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 3, 2014 9:05 a.m.

    "One of things... is not like the other"... la la la la la...

    That's not racist? That's not seeing people as the color of their skin? Wrong. If not for the color of the kid's skin, and the family's skin... do you think this picture would even have been shown on the MSNBC talk show? Or mocked? I don't. That's racism (regardless of the person pointing out the race of the baby being a minority).

    It's not the whole network. But nobody on the show called her on it, and they all laughed at it. And many like-minded people defended it (at first). Obviously they were thinking the same thing when presented with the picture. And obviously they planned to show the picture and talk about it. Why did the MSNBC Producers allow it? They probably knew WHY the picture was going to be part of the show.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Jan. 3, 2014 9:00 a.m.

    Does anyone watch MSNBC? I never do. I had to read about this on Drudge. Anyone that relies on MSNBC for news ought to reconsider how many brain cells that they lose each time they watch that "channel".

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    Jan. 3, 2014 8:53 a.m.

    Why are these letters still showing up? I haven't seen or heard one person anywhere defend Harris-Perry. The decision is unanimous she was wrong. The comments were tacky and insensitive. As compared to the tacky and insensitive comments by Phil Robertson that were widely and wildly defended.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Jan. 3, 2014 8:15 a.m.

    "Racism is over "

    And there you have it. All issues of race are gone.... from an authoritative source.... from the epicenter of the issues.

    “Join us, the Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, for a rally and cross lighting, Saturday, May 26, Harmony, North Carolina. Free Admition [sic]-White People Only. Always remember: If it ain’t white, it ain’t right,"

    This isn't from 50 years ago, not 30, not even ten. Try last year. I guess these people didn't get the same memo.

    And something the DN doesn't want to talk about... but after the recent election..... state with the 4 most racist Tweets post election..... Utah. Only Alabama, Mississippi and Georgia had more. Guess these people also didn't get the memo.

  • shc Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 2, 2014 7:20 p.m.

    MSNBC must be ultimately responsible for what its commentators and guests say. The photo was on a Christmas card. The context was not political. There was no reason to discuss it on national television. I can only assume that it was deemed to be fair game because it was from the Romneys and smugness is in fashion. With respect to "post-racial" President Obama, he didn't make the snide comments but apparently we are not in the "post-racial" era that MSNBC's commentators touted. With respect to the controversy surrounding Phil Robertson, I must admit that I have never seen the program and cannot conceive when or why I would watch it. I leave that controversy to its fans who are more knowledgeable than am I. My concern is the attack upon interracial adoptions and the comment (above) that Obama was raised by his "real" family only compounds my concerns. The breakdown of the family among African-Americans has created a crisis in that children are everywhere without fathers. The "real" heroes are the men and women who take on these fatherless children. Kudos to the Romneys.

  • E Sam Provo, UT
    Jan. 2, 2014 6:28 p.m.

    MSNBC didn't do anything. One commentator on MSNBC made a stupid mistake. Not the whole network.

  • RFLASH Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 2, 2014 4:08 p.m.

    So, he turns around and makes a jab at President Obama. He needs to take his own advice. By the way, Obama is half white. That was his real family that raised him!

  • Ranch Here, UT
    Jan. 2, 2014 1:50 p.m.

    Scott, did you defend Phil Robertson or condemn him?

    If you defended him and condemn this one; that is hypocrisy.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 2, 2014 12:04 p.m.

    I think MSNBC knows they blew this one. They apologized. I think we can move on now.

    The moral of the story is... We need to quit seeing people as stereotypes. The Romney family is not the Republican party. You can have problems with the Republican party without mocking the Romney family.

    President Obama demanded that his kids be left out of this type of mocking and political bickering... why can't MSNBC give the same respect to the Romney family?

    I think MSNBC would be going crazy if somebody made disparaging remarks about Obama's children.

    The other lesson to be learned is.. you don't have to be white to have racist tendencies and see people as the color of their skin.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Chihuahua, 00
    Jan. 2, 2014 11:57 a.m.

    Racism is over. They keep beating this dead horse because they have nothing else. Things today are just like the 1960's as far as MSNBC is concerned. If anybody thinks racism isn't an issue today, are labeled a Racist or an Uncle Tom. It's so pathetic.

  • Schnee Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 2, 2014 11:39 a.m.

    [This disturbing episode reveals the rotten stench of “political correctness,"]

    Rotten stench of political correctness? This letter specifically calls for the use of political correctness since the PC thing is to not make the kind of joke Pia Glenn made.