DN Subscriber 2, thanks for many inciteful and useful posts. Political
correctness has produced so much gobblygoop that its hard to differentiate
fact from fiction. Reasonable people can disagree but add the emotional
fanaticism of the political correct crowd andeverything becomes very
toxic.Your posts were always well reasoned.
--"Shurtleff pulled the state out of the case as one of his last acts in
office in December 2012. Investigators said that left 5,000 Utah homeowners
without a settlement, all in an effort to protect a Swallow campaign
donor."-- To what extent did former AG Shurtleff give Swallow his
support and confidence? He would have known more than enough to pull his
support if he were acting in Utah's best interests. Let us hear from the
5000 who lost the state's support for this corruption.
John Swallow seemed untrustworthy from the first time I read of him. I voted
for Reyes in the Primary and then for the Democrat in the final. The Democrat
would probably have been good but sadly he did not campaign. But maybe that was
naive considering what happened yesterday in Utah, with those clowns Becker and
Gill at the helm in Salt Lake. The Dems have no moral compass either.
Worst part about this is its striking parallel to that telling scene from Casa
Blanca where the Inspector raids Bogart's establishment and Bogart
protests, saying you can't shut me down--what's the problem? The
Inspector character says something like I'm shocked to find that gambling
is going on in here. A moment later one of the workers approaches the
Inspector, hands him a bundle of cash, and says your winnings, sir. Which
brings a barely audible thank you very much.Not all elected
officials are on the take. But, you can be sure many of them have done things
just like Mr. Swallow. Now, they need it to appear that such behavior is
shocking. Well, it is. But, unfortunately, the behavior is not as uncommon as
voters might hope.
Is this acceptable behavior of an attorney bound by the code of ethics and laws
of the State of Utah? He was the Chief Deputy supervising a boatload of AG
attorneys and making judgments on cases for our citizens. Corruption involves
this kind of deceit from other elected and appointed officials who are bound by
their ethical codes. I appreciate the inner conscience of the House of
Representatives who are trying to keep integrity a part of the system. It is
sad when the Utah Bar and the Federal authorities have lost their North
Star's guiding light. It appears that some want to change our mores and
morals to the Sodom and Gomorrah of todays world. Utah was meant to be as the
pioneers came here for. They wanted a sanctuary for their practices since
people and governments wanted their extinction. Our prior AGs have torn down
that with succeeding generations through acceptance of proven values since the
beginning of time. The Ten Commandments and other religious values from time
have proven helpful in keeping society from falling. I know then
Governor will have a hard time with his $13M and $85K in his past we accept.
DN2, I have felt that Swallow was unethical at best and criminal at worst from
the very first. I hope you support the investigation as in continues, there is
more out there, and now is the time to clean the house.
I have been a strong defender of John Swallow.It appears that I was
deceived and my faith in his innocence was misplaced.While it is
true that this is "just one side of the story" we are hearing today, and
that his transgressions may not be a bad as they seem, I can no longer believe
in his full innocence.Politicians are indeed a slimy bunch, some
more so than others.Let justice be served and punishments meted out.
Not just to Swallow, but any politicians who break laws.
Not politically motivated. Morally and legally motivated.Maybe news takes
it's time getting to Eagle Mountain.
I don't know what is worse, not reporting these contributions or actually
getting contributions from these snakes in the grass.
@GreatScot:Help me. What is the political motivation of the House
Committee, which is dominated by Republicans?
Still not sure if a real crime has been committed, or just political
underhandedness. Both are dispicable actions, but plenty of what is disgusting
about politics is legal. I don't know whether the prosecutors are any
better than the ones being prosecuted. Maybe they are squeaky clean. But when
charges have political motivation, I reserve judgement.
I say BRAVO! to the committee.Let them continue until every single element
of this has been examined, cost no object.If it cleans house, then it is
worth every cent.5 mil, 20 mil...Let the Guv pay out of his fund for
UTA, or from what they don't spend on education.Plenty there...
For those concerned about how much money was spent investigating Swallow, I
would suggest that a significant amount of that money could have been saved if
Swallow had cooperated with the investigation rather than refusing to give a
taped interview with investigators and hiding and destroying documents. He
clearly wasn't looking to be helpful or forthcoming.Similarly,
the money he's spent to date on his own legal defense has been largely
wasted as it's been spent pursuing that same strategy--deny everything,
attack and avoid the investigators, and hide/destroy/fabricate information. A little candor by Mr. Swallow would have save both himself and the
State a lot of money.
Swallow was an LDS Bishop???
@Grover. I will take seriously the defenders of John Swallow claiming he did not
have the funds to defend hisself after evidence arises that the Attorney General
ever declined to file charges against anyone who did not have the money to pay
to defend themselves.
Drip...Drip...Drip...On news dump Friday DN readers get the latest
installment in the swallow scandal...Thanks.
I've often wondered why the last two Utah Attorney Generals were such
payday loan supporters. Now I know. Money!!
New to Utah: Are you just new to Utah or new to the USA?? John Swallow faced
the same dilemma as a poor person before the bar of justice. If you are not
wealthy, you will not have the same chance as someone else in the same position
with money. A recent book on the subject is titled: "And Liberty and Justice
for Some"Having said that however, John Swallow couldn't
beat this rap with Perry Mason at his table. Take the money out of it, what are
the odds that the Bar allows him to keep his law license?? Answer: Slim and
none and slim just left town after the revelations yesterday before the
legislature. Last thing you need to learn being new here is that not all
dishonest and slimy people are liberals who live in Salt Lake County. Some are
of a party you favor, pledge faith to a religion revered in this State and live
in places quite close to your new home.PS. Welcome to Utah!
The worst part are his smug and smirky assertions of complete innocence...as
though if he said it often enough, it would have been believed.Even
with the tons of miraculously lost electronic data, the committee has done a
very comprehensive job of exposing so many wrongs.This entire saga
is so contrary to how Swallow would have you believe he lives, works, and
serves, and that is disappointing.
John Swallow needs to be held accountable.Three of my kids or spouses are
in the legalprofession. $2.3 million dollars vs $300k is hardlyfair
that is what the state had vs Swallow.So the state has to justify spending
that money. So this iis the classic orange vsApples comparison not
As has been stated before on these message boards, I hope that if there is
evidence that law was broken that there are more formal charges and we
don't simply let him resign and think that is penance enough.
Nuh uhh. Why can't people just leave this good man alone? He claimed he was
innocent when he resigned and he has the backing of the seagull forum, that is
good enough for me!