George F. Will: President Obama's epiphanies about government

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  • wrz Phoenix, AZ
    Dec. 15, 2013 11:44 p.m.

    @1covey: "The kicker will be which agencies or bureaucrats President Obama targets for elimination."

    I can help him... How about eliminating the Department of Education, reducing all the other White House Cabinet by ten percent each, and eliminating the White House's 25 or so 'tzars.' No other presidents have needed tzars of any number. And stop taking multimillion dollar vacation trips.

    @The Skeptical Chymist: "If you tell the truth, you cannot be elected."

    That's exactly why Mitt Romney did not get elected... he told the truth.

    "From the very beginning Republicans were determined that Obama would fail."

    Republicans don't want him to fail... they want him out of the White House and their guy in. What's wrong with that?

    "Obama is far from failure and the things he has done are far from being as bad as Republicans scream."

    Obama lied to the public about Obamacare... over and over. He is also a lawbreaker. He postponed the employer mandate contrary to Congressional law. He has broken immigration laws giving amnesty to millions of illegal aliens. And he has violated laws about aiding, abetting, and harboring illegal aliens... which is a felony. Look it up - 8USC1324.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Dec. 13, 2013 9:11 a.m.

    "Obama's solution to the problem of the 16 is to "consolidate" them, replacing 16 small subtractions from good governance with one big one. "

    What I find ironic about this statement is this is the very thing "free enterprise" does on a daily basis, and is viewed as progress by the same like minded people to George. No one is clammering for the breakup of WallMart, that 16 smaller chains would server their customers better (actually, they may do just that). But in the name of efficiency we see things like American Airlines swallowing US Air. When the government stepped in to prevent this merger of peers - conservatives were repulsed - that to survive these two needed to come together to server the public better.

    In my own industry, we had Conoco and Phillips, we had Exxon and Mobile. No one thought these coming together to become global giant organizations was a bad thing.

    And yet, if redundancies are to be eliminated in government, 16 parrallel organizations are better than 1 to Will. Funny how economies of scale seem to only apply to the private sector in Will's world.

    Bigger is harder, but sometimes it is better and cheaper too.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Dec. 13, 2013 12:06 a.m.

    college professors like Barack theorize about how to govern and they almost always lean left and toward progressive socialist state-ism. Trouble with all this theorizing is that none of it is grounded on experience let alone past successes. There is precious little actual experience in the college faculty lounges - just academic pie in the sky day dreaming about 90% of which is impractical and down right dangerous. Big government is bad for society every single time but because green horns like Barack come straight out of academia with ZERO real world experience lessons are never recognized or leaned and so the same mistakes that have doomed countries like Greece are being re-applied here in America. The REAL problem actually isn't Barack and his Communist friends - it is the ignorant low information masses that elect him solely on superficial cotton candy and race.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 1:35 p.m.

    I agree with George Will and would add that we have not seen a more dishonest POTUS in Obama since Nixon! Obama gives Bagdad Bob a run for his money!

  • brotherJonathan SLC, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 1:24 p.m.

    If we citizens want government to be for the people, we must come to terms with the fact that corporations run our political offices. Just look at the dollars that elect every US Congressman and even our state officials. The cure is very simple: honor our existing laws that protect voter rights to equality. On this day, Dec 11, 2013, I Jonathan L. Peterson do charge the office of Utah Supreme Court
    A complaint against Chief Justice Mathew B. Durrant with misconduct and ethics violations.
    They have knowledge that crimes against Utah residents are being done and have been done without filing a complaint themselves against the unlawful actions of other public officials and perpetrators of said crimes against constitutional rights of every citizen in Utah.
    Until he or she breaks their silence about corporate bribery and other violations against citizen constitutional equality they are committing gross misconduct and clearly breaking ethics rules set by the Utah State Bar and their Oath of Office.
    "There is more but not enough room" This complaint was filed against every Utah supreme court justice. Withdrawal of complaint when addressed. by Jonathan L. Peterson

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 1:07 p.m.

    It sounds as if anything you read or hear will always start from the premise of despising BO's policies. You'll find plenty of comfort and companionship with that ideology but you may never discover the truth. The biggest driver of the federal debt over the past 5 years is reduction in the amount of revenue (taxes)being collected as a percent of GDP. Our country has not seen the percent of federal revenue (taxes & fees) being collected at these low of levels since 1950 (15% of GDP). Paying off the 17 trillion dollars in debt is very doable by increasing revenues to the historical levels seen under the Reagan adminstration (mid 17). That's my biggest issue with the GOP as they seem to be more concerned with scaling back social programs than they are in reducing the debt. It's naive to think Americans will vote for politicans or a party that wants to reduce SS or Medicare when more Americans are dependent upon them. Some DN posters refer to these people as beggars. Call them what you want but they are citizens and can vote. We need more informed pragmatists and fewer partisans to solve our problems.

  • t702 Las Vegas, NV
    Dec. 12, 2013 11:52 a.m.

    @ RFLASH
    "From the very beginning Republicans were determined that Obama would fail. As a matter of fact, Republicans have done every thing possible to make that failure come true!"

    Obama is in trouble due entirely to Obamacare, his lack of experience, and his lies about if you like your healthcare you can keep it- tell me how did the republicans cause all that? While at it, can you provide the memo from republicans that forced Obama to lie "If you like your healthcare, you can keep it, period!"

  • happy2bhere clearfield, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 11:45 a.m.

    I researched about the government workforce size and found many varied opinions from both the right and left. As is common when dealing with government, statistics, and politics, one can find what they want. Some say we have grown, some say we are stagnant, others say we are smaller. I suspect the truth is how one interprets the statistics and what history one uses as a baseline. Anyway, it really doesn't matter in as I do believe that Obama, (whom I don't hate as you put it, but really despise his policies), is doing things that are very bad for our country. That puts me in line with at least half of the country, and, considering recent polls, the majority of Americans. I hope you are correct in that the government (tax payed) work force is getting smaller because we really need to reduce the spending before the 17 trillion debt grows to an unsustainable level. If it hasn't already.

  • RFLASH Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 11:05 a.m.

    From the very beginning Republicans were determined that Obama would fail. As a matter of fact, Republicans have done every thing possible to make that failure come true! If we are going to talk about failure, I think we need to evaluate the Republican party. We need to see how much any of them have accomplished during the years Obama has been in office! Then we will see failure. We will see the losers that would rather see our country fail, than ever see Obama accomplish anything
    Obama is far from failure and the things he has done are far from being as bad as Republicans scream. It is amazing the hate coming from people!One stupid thing Republicans do is to make absolute statements about something as if what they say is the absolute truth and don't anyone dare think otherwise. Has anyone read the scripture about pulling the mote out of your own eye before you do it to someone else. These Republicans should fix themselves. Everyone can see that! Like I said, say whatever you want about Obama, the hypocritical Republicans don't see how screwed up their party really is!

  • Tyler D Meridian, ID
    Dec. 12, 2013 10:14 a.m.

    For the sake of argument let’s say George’s analysis is correct (in fact at best, it is only half so).

    Now if we had a party that, say, fought vigorously to pass transparency laws and protections for those not in power, they may have some credibility in promoting the sort of society George thinks is best (hint: it is unquestionably NOT the Republican Party).

  • The Skeptical Chymist SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 10:06 a.m.


    Regarding your comment about Obama not speaking the truth: I will accept that not everything Obama says is truthful. I cannot think of a single politician, of any party, who is always truthful. If you tell the truth, you cannot be elected.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 9:33 a.m.

    The reduction in federal employees is excluding our military. When that is taken into account the number is obviously much lower. Don't let your hatred of BO blind you from the facts. While BO policies may have increased goverments presence into our everyday life (e.g. ACA or the NSA) they have not increased the size of our federal workforce. Many of those "negative sound bites" you hear from biased sources or DN blogs are fabricated lies.

  • 1covey Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 9:30 a.m.

    The kicker will be which agencies or bureaucrats President Obama targets for elimination. Probably not the ones he and his cronies favor. And don't look for Obama to compromise.

  • happy2bhere clearfield, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 9:20 a.m.

    You do realize that much of that reduction comes from the Federal employees who happen to wear the uniform of the Armed Services. Don't make it sound like many folks going to work in D.C. with a GS number are losing their jobs. That part of the country has the lowest unemployment and some of the highest paid people per capita in the whole country. They arn't in any recession back there. Not with trillions of dollars floating around.

    They may be negative sound bites, but they still are true.

  • airnaut Everett, 00
    Dec. 12, 2013 8:27 a.m.

    George F. SHill continues to work the Limbaugh Institute formula of creating wealth...

    Make a lucritive career based entirley on negative sound bites.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 8:22 a.m.

    Federal employees are at a 47 year low. When it comes to the # of Federal employees or their percent of the work force we have made considerable progress over the past few years in the reduction of them.

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 8:11 a.m.

    Centralized power attracts crony capitalists and rent seekers. This is why the founding fathers tried so hard to disperse power. They weren't wrong.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Dec. 12, 2013 7:00 a.m.

    Obama's domestic policy is to blame everyone else and everything else for his failures. "I am sorry that they are finding themselves in this situation based on assurances they got from me," Obama told NBC News. So if you are harmed by Obama's agenda, that's too is your fault, not his.

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 6:53 a.m.

    The important thing to remember is when Obama speaks all or part of what he says is not the truth. The line between truth and lies is not well defined in his personality.

  • David Centerville, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 6:21 a.m.

    Consolidation, in my opinion, serves us well if it achieves greater efficiency (fewer overlapping programs, fewer government employees, less costly government). But in this case, Will is suggesting to eliminate all of those departments that help business as thes departments represent unequal distribution of money among businesses. The well connected get access while the rest labor under their own efforts. I would agree with Will here.

    Republicans favor smaller government through consolidation & elimination of programs & departments. They should address this in the House. Perhaps it would go nowhere until there is a new Senate majority leader & president. But having studied this issue & creating a plan could provide a blueprint in the future.

  • high school fan Huntington, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 1:43 a.m.

    What else can possibly be said that hasn't already been said, here is a guy incapable of being the person we all thought he might be.