Pay increase for Gov. Herbert, other elected execs proposed

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  • innocent bystander SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Feb. 3, 2014 12:54 a.m.

    This is obnoxious. No raises at all.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Dec. 14, 2013 4:20 p.m.

    $13M and $87,000 isn't enough for the Governor?

  • Outraged_in_Utah SLC, UT
    Dec. 12, 2013 7:52 a.m.

    As I see it, this is not a bipartisan issue--I believe the overwhelming majority of politicians feel entitled. They promise anything to get into office and then lose sight of why they're really there.

    I don't believe they should be given a pay raise. If we remove the outrageous salaries as an incentive for obtaining these positions, maybe we'd get some people in there who actually want to be public "servants." Frankly, there are already a lot of perks that come with these jobs--like a luxury State vehicle for personal use.

    The governor's on this push to improve operation performance by 25% which really means doing more with less, regardless of how Kristin Cox spins it. Now we understand why all the cuts--Top State Execs need a pay raise.

  • JayTee Sandy, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 8:57 p.m.

    The first order of business when you get elected to a high public office is to form and appoint a compensation committee to begin the sales process relative to why you're just not being adequately compensated, and to explain how your colleagues and counterparts in other jurisdictions are all making much more than you are. Another angle here is to get people who will drive home the idea that with your amazing administrative talent, it's pretty much a given that you could make MULTIPLES of what you're getting if you were just greedy and self-serving enough to be applying your abilities in "the private sector"--but thankfully, you're such a selfless person that you're willing to sacrifice enormously so the little people can benefit from your very presence.

  • NeilT Clearfield, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 8:33 p.m.

    University Presidents earn six figure salaries and are provided a very nice home to live in. Football coaches are way overpaid. I would like to know exactly where a coach's base salary come from. Does any come from revenue generated by B-Ball or football. The governor does a good job and deserves decent compensation. A 40% raise is unrealistic. If he is not satisfied there is always an executive position at UTA.

  • Fern RL LAYTON, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 8:32 p.m.

    It has not seemed right that any elected official should make more than his constituents. It seems like it would be better for them to make the median wage, however, I would even accept it if they made 40% above the real median household income for the most recent year for which we have statistics. For example in Utah in 2012, it was $57,049 so perhaps the governor should start making $79,868.60 per year. Then the other executive officials could make 95% of that.

    Maybe someone would realize that if state worker's wages went up, their own would also rise. Maybe schoolteachers, etc. would see increases, and more would be able to afford to live.

    Abolish campaigning and its funding except for a state-run website that fairly explains who the candidates are and what they stand for. Do away with the Hatch Act, letting anyone could run for office again. Then it wouldn't matter if you are wealthy and can afford the cut in pay, or if you are one of the many who make less than the median income and would get a raise -- we should still have plenty of candidates who could run for office.

  • Scores Idaho Falls, ID
    Dec. 11, 2013 8:01 p.m.

    All these elected people, no matter where they live, will tell you that they want to be public servants. Maybe they should be paid on a performance scale. They get paid for job performance much like they want teachers to be paid for job performance. Heck, I think we ought to vote everyone of them out of office. It seems like they want the job so they will have retirement benefits for life! And who get to pay for it? The people do, just like they have to pay for everything.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 6:03 p.m.

    That's a pretty low salary for a Governor. Even assistant football coaches at BYU make more than that.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Dec. 11, 2013 5:28 p.m.

    It's called redistribution of wealth.

    Just to be fair,--Obama spends more of our money, on one vacation, than Herbert will make in ten years.

  • Commodore West Jordan, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 3:19 p.m.

    @ FaifeauSam

    "Who made you judge and where do you come off saying that Herbert has done nothing?"

    1. As a citizen I get the privilege of judging elected officials.
    2. I never said Herbert has done nothing. There is a difference between being a leader and a caregiver.

    "Do you not realize that some things move slower than we want? Job Growth, Environment, Healthcare? "

    3. Yes, but you can be part of the long term solution and not part of the problem. Republican think rich people create jobs. Cosnummer demand creates jobs. Herbert and others would be wise to create an economic eco-system that encourages the proper reward of investors, laborers, and management.

    4. Plain and simple Herbert gets elected in Utah because there is an R by his name. We need solutions, not parties of broken ideas.

  • happy2bhere clearfield, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 2:25 p.m.


    Since no one asked, I will. What was your point. This is about Utah, and you go off on billions spent by President Bush and Republicans for war? A little off topic I'd say. However, I do wonder if you could tell me any Republican of national note who actually said that to ask about spending is unpatriotic. Because if it is unpatriotic to ask then I guess I am a traitor to the country for asking the Democrats and President Obama about the 7 trillion spent in the last 5 years.

  • Kings Court Alpine, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 2:04 p.m.

    Does this action surprise anyone? Politicians make sure to cover cost of living for themselves, but let their own employees languish with insipid 1% or .5% raises. I think that elected officials should tie their salary increase to the same percentage their own state workers get. That means a possible 1% raise. That's it.

  • Alfred Phoenix, AZ
    Dec. 11, 2013 1:56 p.m.

    "Why not 4% a year, each year, for the next ten years? Then people could support it."

    Why not no more than the cost of living each year?

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 12:21 p.m.

    Why aren't the politicians who funded this study, Why don't they give the same reasons they give teachers, highway patrol, UDOT employees and other state employees. "That it's a tough economy and people are still without jobs. We pride ourselves on keeping costs down and limited government. For these reasons we will not accept a 40% pay increase. We will take the exact same pay increase that other State employees will enjoy."?

  • FaifeauSam Lehi, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 12:20 p.m.

    @ Commodore: Who made you judge and where do you come off saying that Herbert has done nothing? Why does he keep getting elected? Do you not realize that some things move slower than we want? Job Growth, Environment, Healthcare? It always amazes me that people want immediate gratification rather than a patient thought-out process. I ran for state office 30 years ago and would have been a good senator, but I would have been willing to compromise and study and listen to my constituents!

  • oaklandaforlife SLC, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 12:17 p.m.

    @ one vote,

    I totally agree with your comment. Where in the heck are the Tea Party buddies to squash this outrageous thinking? Who initiated this "Independent study commission? Don't they have more pressing issues to deal with?

  • Proud Utahn Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 12:10 p.m.

    As a state worker I can attest to the fact that our salaries were frozen for 4 years, then we received 1% raise last year; this year they are proposing 1%. I make $28/hour as a 30 year experienced RN with college education - well below the going private sector. (If some people have their way fast food workers with no education could be making half that much). The retirement somewhat compensates unless the economy goes completely bust and it's not even there when we are able to collect it. Teachers consistently get better raises than we do and it is frustrating that the money typically goes to the top - in all aspects of public service. Fellow citizens and responsible taxpayers: please be careful when judging and making blanket statements.

  • FaifeauSam Lehi, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 12:10 p.m.

    I agree with RWSmith for the most part, but I don't believe 50% of teachers leave the profession in 5 years. Where do these statistics come from?

  • FaifeauSam Lehi, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 12:05 p.m.

    @ Culbear: Have you ever considered the outlandish and extraordinary salaries of the state educational institutions paid to the coaches?

    All others: Don't bring up the federal fiasco and compare our state leaders with the national do-nothings! Herbert, etal, are NOT Obama, Pelosi, Reid, etc.

  • FaifeauSam Lehi, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 12:00 p.m.

    A lot of good thoughts here, but I don't see many people lining up to take the jobs. I agree that teachers, police and firemen deserve an adequate raise, but I also think the state leaders should be compensated. How many of those who criticize would be capable of handling the duties and responsibilities...and PRESSURE that the governor and others have?

  • Commodore West Jordan, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 11:52 a.m.

    Herbet is nothing but a caretaker. He is not a leader, but an elected maintenance man. What has he really done to secure a bright future for Utah?

    Let's do a grading of Herbet:

    Job Growth: F
    Although unemployment has been declining in the state these past few years, the jobs that have been pouring in the have been low paying with few or no benefits. We need living wages, not slave wages!

    Taxes: C
    State taxes have stayed constant, but there are many corrections that need to occur to make the system more fair. I give him a C for maintenance, which is barely passing.

    Environment: F
    Governor Herbert has done nothing to fix our terrible air, but has passed the buck on with promoting study after study. Do something now to reduce horrible air pollution! We want action now, not 10 years later.

    Healthcare: F
    Governor Herbert has foolishly dug his heels in with concerns about expanding medicaid. The federal government will pay for 90% of it and states will pay no more than 10%. Many people will suffer because of him.

    Overall Grade: F+/D. Herbert Fails in my grading book and deserves to be fired, not paid more.

  • airnaut Everett, 00
    Dec. 11, 2013 11:50 a.m.

    A School Teacher goes to college for 8 years,
    earns an Associates, Bachelors AND a Masters [many hold PhDs].

    They make $45,000 a year.

    Gary Herbert attended BYU, but never even finished college.

    And IF compensation is likened to a CEOs salaries,
    the that should be a big red flag that America's CEO are making way WAY too much money!

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 11:48 a.m.

    To "one vote" I hate to break it to you, but the Tea Party wouldn't shut down the government. Locally, just like nationally, they would propose a budget that would fund the government. It was the Democrats that shut down the national government by voting down a reasonable proposal just so that their pet project could not get discussed further.

    To those that dislike this idea. I don't think many of you actually read the article. The point is that without raising the pay, you narrow the number of canidates down to just a few that are wealthy. As for all of the side benefits, many do not use them. For example Huntsman continued to live in his own house while Governor. Once in office, the governor always has the option to accept or reject a salary. For example, Mitt Romney declined the salary offered to him when he was governor of Massachussetts.

  • Mike in Sandy Sandy, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 11:46 a.m.

    Guv doesn't earn what he makes now....

  • Vernco Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 11:30 a.m.

    Why do politicians want it all so fast. Sow down a little. There are too many people in hard times, and this is hardly setting a good example. Do not let Obama;s excesses loose here.

  • Cleetorn Fuaamotu, Tonga
    Dec. 11, 2013 11:20 a.m.

    (cont’d) But that was just to bring us more back in line with where we were when we got cut in the first place. That’s to say nothing about subsequent COLA increases or – heaven forbid – raises of any kind.
    Public service employees can’t negotiate for higher wages. They have to be legislated – just like the governor and his ilk. Some independently biased commission recommends a 40% increase to put Utah’s execs in the top ten of governors’ pay. It is these same execs that fought tooth-and-nail against a 2.5% restoration claiming the State’s revenues couldn’t support such a “drastic” increase. A 40% increase? Ridiculous! Give them the same 2.5% I got and tell them to be happy just to have a job when so many others don’t.
    You want to talk REAL money from the State, though? USU’s Matt Wells pulls down $415,000 a year with a possible additional bonus of $150,000. (USA Today, 1 July 2013) At least, he gives us something to cheer about.

  • Cleetorn Fuaamotu, Tonga
    Dec. 11, 2013 11:20 a.m.

    According to a PEW report regarding salaries of state governors across the entire country, Utah’s “top job” is below the national average of $130,595 but well above the low of $70,000. It also documents that “the average salary of U.S. governors also has begun to slide.” That would be the opposite of what is being proposed here. Before reducing its governor’s salary by over $40,000, California had the highest paying spot at $212,179. During the time that Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger held that position, he never accepted a single red cent from the state’s offering. The same goes for Florida’s current governor. In Tennessee, both the former and current govs pay the taxes on their salary and return the remainder to the state coffers.
    I’ve been in public service for over 30 years. A few years ago, we all took a substantial cut in pay so that we could retain our current staffing rather than “furlough” (the politically-correct way of saying “fire”) several. We all got giddy about the prospect of a 2.5% restoration earlier this year. (more)

  • Bored to the point of THIS! Ogden, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 11:06 a.m.

    The State Legislature and Governor should get paid the same a school teachers... That would be a lesson in economics! Maybe they'd think twice about voting against teacher salary raises.

  • Gildas LOGAN, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 11:01 a.m.

    "I myself have labored with my own hands that I might serve you, and that ye should not be laden with taxes..."

    Mosiah 2:14

    Let's be true latter-day saints that live according to this model.

    I agree that government service should be an honor performed freely
    and a part time duty. I always feel uneasy when legislatures are in

    The legislature should not meet so often but "labor with their own hands"
    for there own upkeep. They should be meek and caring and there to lighten our loads
    not heap more upon our backs.

    It is imo a worthy goal that we might not be burdened with so many taxes and other burdens imposed by the legislators and signed by successive governors, including ever increasing sales taxes, and property taxes that seem to go up readily with the market and come down grudgingly even in today's market.

    Minimal government, small government, is beautiful government.

    "Woe to them that decree unrighteous decrees, and that write grievousness which they have prescribed."
    Isaiah 10:1

  • suzyk#1 Mount Pleasant, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 10:46 a.m.

    What a joke - it's the teachers of our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren that deserve an increase not the Governor and his cronies. I hope this 40% increase does not go through...but it's the typical attitude among leaders in this country...their own self-worth opinion seems to trump all common sense.

  • RWSmith6 Providence, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 10:41 a.m.

    I have no doubt Governor Herbert and others in higher public office deserve better salaries. Many of those jobs are grueling and thankless until a later time when contacts made in office can be parlayed into real reward.

    Public school teachers, too, deserve much, much more than they receive in compensation packages. Their careers are not ended by law in 8 years, and at the end of the maybe 35-year careers, what's the payoff for having persevered? What connections were made leading to "real reward"?

    It's interesting how much control over public school teachers' compensation Utah's governor has, the governor who might be awarded 40% higher salary and not be stuck with that "pittance" for a whole working life.

    Is there any wonder recruiting and retaining the very best, brightest and most classroom worthy teachers for Utah's public schools is increasingly impossible? 8 years and out for the governor and, maybe, 40% more in salary before the out part. Almost 50% of those who enter teaching in the public schools, though, end up choosing an earlier out--within their first five years.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 10:33 a.m.

    The GOV. as well as most of his elected cronies are the party of NO...

    Therefore...regarding this order to maintain political purity...

    The decision should be...

    NO...NEVER...A 1000 times NO.

  • riverofsun St.George, Utah
    Dec. 11, 2013 10:25 a.m.

    Why of course!
    Would anyone in our troubled economy imagine otherwise!
    These people are special and deserve the best!
    Just ask them.

  • Seek to understand Sandy, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 10:16 a.m.

    I have been to the DMV and was so pleased by the very short wait time and the extremely friendly service. I was raised back east and have lived in 5 states as an adult, and I must say Utah is AWESOME. Low traffic on the freeways because of great planning. Smart construction planning to provide the least inconvenience to drivers (in many states they close multiple routes to the same place at the same time!). GREAT mass transit options. Low taxes (New York property taxes were 6-7 times what they are here!).

    We have a balanced budget. We run schools that may not be at the very top academically, but we have some excellent ones and our AP pass rates are very strong. And we do it on the lowest funding in the nation! Our recreation opportunities can't be rivaled - well-kept trails for hiking and biking, amazing parks to play in. Very low unemployment - great jobs. The list goes on!

    There are many, many great people in Utah making this state a highly desirable place to relocate to. The governor and state leaders are doing an excellent job. Reward them for the great place Utah is!

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 9:52 a.m.

    When everyone elses pay goes up 40% then their pay can go up 2%. C'mon with all of their kickbacks and living on taxpayer dollars, really?!

    I though the whole idea of the public servant/office was to serve. NOT to be served.

    I don't mind giving a wage to politicians, but, maybe they should get a wage similar to those in the bottom 40% percentile. Then they can base their decisions on something that most people get to live on. Same thing with health care. Whatever the bottom 40% has, is the same health care that the politicians get.

    What better way to know how to better serve us?

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 9:43 a.m.

    Here's an idea. Elected officials serve WITHOUT PAY. But provide a living stipend to cover their actual expenses. Almost all of them are LDS. Isn't that how general authorities of the church are compensated? Shouldn't our state's leaders follow the good example of their religious leaders?

    Service should be an honor, performed honorably. It should not be a for-profit business.

  • airnaut Everett, 00
    Dec. 11, 2013 9:42 a.m.

    40% ?!

    You've got to be kidding?

    What about the rest of the State employees who have gone without a pay raise?
    What about the School Teachers with advanced Master's degrees who make dirt wages?

    Leaders should Lead by example.

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 9:43 a.m.

    I think the Governor probably deserves a raise, but let's take the amount for the increase out of the salary the University of Utah football coach is getting. He is the highest paid state employee at almost two million dollars a year!. I propose that all states allocate less money for these over paid coaches and put some of that money back into more important priorities. If all of the state Universities lower the coaches salaries, the coaches wouldn't be able to sqwak and leave for a higher paying job at the "other school". We have gone nuts in America with the salaries we pay these state run University sports coaches. Will sanity ever return?

  • Samwise Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 9:41 a.m.

    "Now, nearly all the members of the governor's cabinet and a number of local government officials earn more than the $109,900 the state's top job pays. Utah's other elected executives earn 95 percent of the governor's salary."

    Here's a crazy idea. If it is a bad thing for the Governor to be paid less than other people in the government, how about the salaries of those who make more than him and 95% of him have their salaries lowered, rather than raising his?

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Dec. 11, 2013 9:38 a.m.

    Get off your high horse everyone...time to look within many of you would turn down a 34% raise if it came your way? How many of you have ever turned down even a 1 or 2% raise? How many of you, if you could determine your own raise, wouldn't give yourself one?

    Yeah, that's what I thought. Why do you expect a politician to be more altruistic than you are?

  • sergio Phoenix, AZ
    Dec. 11, 2013 9:23 a.m.

    All state officials compensation should be based on a percentage (or times) the state's average for total employment, i.e.: if the average employee in Utah has a total benefits package of perhaps $40,000 then the maximum total benefits package for elected officials should be perhaps 3X, or $120,000. That provides incentive, fairness, accountability, and cost controls.

  • aghast SYRACUSE, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 9:22 a.m.

    Employees of the State of Utah received a 1% kick in the face cost of living pay raise in 2012. Nothing for 2013. This is a money grab - plain and simple. Where is the "independent" group that looks at salaries of State of Utah employees and school teachers? Why are they not heard?

  • Rustymommy Clovis, NM
    Dec. 11, 2013 9:10 a.m.

    We want to attract the best and the brightest. But a 36% raise seems a bit extreme. If an independent company says they need a raise to make them comparable with other employees, maybe the other employees are overpaid. How about a modest raise in exchange for cutting back the retirement benefits? If they get retirement benefits like our US elected officials, they are highly overpaid already.

  • Culbear Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 9:06 a.m.

    I find it quite appalling that any elected official should make over $100k a year. Especially in a state as cheap to live in as Utah. The government is not and should not behave like the private sector when it comes to elected officials. Their pay should not be competitive, it should be competent. A law should be passed preventing any group of elected officials from passing/voting on their own pay raise. They have enough tings comped for this not to be a problem.

  • Samson01 S. Jordan, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 9:06 a.m.

    As an IT professional that worked for the state and after watching my counterparts in the private sector doubling their salaries over the same period of time that mine was at a zero percent growth, I abandoned the public sector and went to the private. I immediately took a 50% raise and have been raised every year since.

    This proposal is ridiculous in light of the no wage adjustment for the thousands of state employees.

  • Dr. B magna, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 8:35 a.m.

    As a public employee for 30+ years, I have never seen a 40% increase. After telling teachers, policemen, firemen etc that there just isn't money for any meaningful cost of living increases it is unbelievable that the state executives, who already make larger salaries, are even considering this. Shame on you for using your positions for personal gratification.

  • Outraged_in_Utah SLC, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 8:30 a.m.

    We can already see the writing on the wall--pay raises for our legislators are coming. They said, "How can we give ourselves pay raises and have the taxpayers feel good about it?" "I know--let's commission a study that tells everyone how underpaid we are." Yet when an independent study was done last year comparing the salaries of public employees with that of their private-sector counterparts and finding that public employees were grossly underpaid, the legislature quickly discounted the study and suggested that public employees should just be happy to be public employees. Well distinguished legislators, I say what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I noticed that one commenter below suggested that legislators be given a 4% per year increase, instead of the whopping 40%. That's fine and good, but they ought to do the same for public employees, instead of the measley 1% they've been giving public employees the past couple years. I'm sure public employees would love a pay increase that actually tries to keep up with inflation. SHAME ON OUR PUBLIC EXECUTIVES AND LEGISLATORS.

  • Palmetto Bug Columbia, SC
    Dec. 11, 2013 8:26 a.m.

    Whatever the raise ends up being, no current official should qualify. Only newly elected people should be allowed to benefit from the raise, that way there's no personal incentive for increasing pay.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 8:08 a.m.

    He totally deserves it. He's been doing so many ribbon cuttings this year, he must be exhausted.

  • DEW Sandy, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 8:05 a.m.

    What was that, Christmas Gift? Really? Why bring it up?

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 8:00 a.m.

    Wheres the tea party in this ...caucus and primary 'em. Shut down government.

  • isrred South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 7:36 a.m.

    DN Subscriber 2,
    The state's population is expected to double, but you expect them to provide the same level of services without adding a single employee? Have you even been to the DMV lately?

    Get real.

  • 1covey Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 7:36 a.m.

    Comparisons to the private sector are always made; what is needed is to lower private sector wages at the CEO and other upper (Corporate) levels. Government salaries should not compete with private sector wages. Government officials already receive adequate compensation, when benefits are considered. Besides, it's called Government service. Service to the public is the keyword: money should be a lesser consideration. Some people volunteer their time and talents. These Government Officials are not hurting, unlike many ordinary citizens.

  • Strider303 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 7:37 a.m.

    "Independent study commissions" are an oxymoron, there is no such thing. No person involved in government,the study of government is without opinions, an agenda, or philosophy that drives them, myself and the rest of those who comment included. That is why I speak against an ISC to draw congressional boundaries, review what-ever issue that a city or county council or legislature is afraid to deal with.

    That being said, the legislature should review the study and come to a finding or decision. I agree that all the perks of the offices should be laid out for the public to see. Some of what has been commented upon may be correct, some may not. The total package should be on the table, open to view.

    I think compensation should be adequate to attract a broad range of candidates.

    We should keep in mind that running a state is no piece of cake. You may or may not be a "Prima dona" but you have to deal with a whole lot of other "Prima donas", a cantankerous press and legion of "low information voters", a judiciary that are wanna-be politicos who legislate from the bench, and the federal bureaucracy.

  • goodnight-goodluck S.L.C., UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 7:18 a.m.

    Self Servers doing what they do best. I'm pretty sure they knew what the salary was when they ran, none of them has done such a fine job they deserve or need a 40% raise. The People that need a 40% raise are minimum wage earners and the like, school teachers, police & corrections officers, fire fighters, deserve a 40% raise. The Governor and his cronies deserve none. If they can't make it they should do as Lt. Governor Bell and go back to the private sector. But then they would have to DO something.

  • Ranch Here, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 6:30 a.m.

    No pay raise. Not until they actually DO something.

  • readme Provo, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 6:26 a.m.

    George Washington set the example and served his country without pay. There are thousands of capable Utah citizens who are able to and able and willing to serve their state for free.

  • BU52 Provo, ut
    Dec. 11, 2013 5:59 a.m.

    Of course this is a stupid proposal and proposed to get everyone ticked off so that when they end up giving themselves a 15% raise then we won't think too much of it.

  • dustmagnet heber city, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 5:47 a.m.

    Seems to me that raises should be based on performance - such as reductions in Air and water pollution (which we have yet to see).

  • Taylor Orem, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 1:24 a.m.

    In the last 7 years, State employees have received a 1 percent raise, one time. The governor has proposed another 1.25%, for a total of 2.25%. Surveys consistently show state government employees earn about 40 percent of the market rate for their jobs, and no adjustments will take place until that figure is in the mid-30s by policy. Just a comparison to the elected officials.

    What happened to serving the public? And, after considering that taxpayers fund housing, transportation, food, and many other expenses for the governor, $110,000 per year isn't enough to continue serving? I'm glad for much of what elected officials do, but why is it about being the most highly compensated executive in the State? They always emphasize how all they want to do is serve. Maybe we should step up their salaries at the same rates as State employees--so how about a 2 - 3 percent increase over a 10-year period??

  • Theeng2 Holladay, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 12:36 a.m.

    Public school teachers are the ones who deserve a 40% salary increase.

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Dec. 10, 2013 11:50 p.m.

    The GOP scares it's voters with boogeymen social issues while the dole out the money for weapons, bombs, corporate welfare, themselves, and their cronies. I stopped believing and voting for the GOP when I asked how we were going to pay for all the TRILLIONS spent by GW Bush only to be told by fellow GOP that it was "unpatriotic" to ask. GOP supporters, stop acting like the TRILLIONS under Bush somehow don't count against your "fiscal conservative" charade.

  • JDL Magna, UT
    Dec. 10, 2013 9:46 p.m.

    Not only NO! But heck NO!

    One Old Man

    You sign up on the broken obama care web site. Of all people, you should know.

  • Scotty Boy Logan, UT
    Dec. 10, 2013 9:44 p.m.

    How many people are out of work, and this commission wants the unemployed, or under employed to pay more for their Elected officials. I think NOT.As one of the other people commented, they know the pay when they Run for office, nobody stuck a gun to their head and told them they had to run. It doesn't matter what Elected officials are getting in other states, compensation is for this state. The only time compensation should be compared to others is in the Private Sector.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Dec. 10, 2013 8:45 p.m.

    one old man, you sign up by being elected, especially to the US Congress.

    A nearly 40% increase is obscene. Why not 4% a year, each year, for the next ten years? Then people could support it.

    Politicians NEVER do anything until it becomes a crisis, then Pow!--it's a major thing. Replacing old sewer lines that were not properly maintained is a prime example of that. Wait until they need replacing and then float a bond for emergency repairs and the public will say you're a wonderful leader.

    Most people tolerate their local government but they don't like it. They will show up for a public hearing on a hot-button issue but that's the only time. The politicians don't care---the less that is said the better, according to them. (Sound like communism?)

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 10, 2013 8:10 p.m.

    These "independent study commissions" are set up for one purpose only - to "backstop" the executives making their OWN case for a raise. It makes the executives look like they don't REALLY want/need the raise. i.e - they're only going along with the raise because the "commission" says they should.

    The officials KNEW the salary when they took the job, if they can't afford to work for 100k plus, they shouldn't have taken the job!

    Pay raises like this result in executive salary "creep" all over the state. Thats why you see city managers (and others) making in excess of 150k per year.

  • DN Subscriber 2 SLC, UT
    Dec. 10, 2013 7:54 p.m.

    Make sure there is one contingency:

    These people receive NO PAY AT ALL for any year in which:
    A- the state has a deficit, or;
    B- the state raises taxes, or;
    C- the state increase the number of state employees.

    If unwilling to accept that simple condition, then no raise.

  • David Centerville, UT
    Dec. 10, 2013 7:32 p.m.

    Before prescribing a specific dollar amount to the salary, it would be nice to itemize the total compensation package: paid meals, value of the governor's mansion (tax-payer housing), transportation, protective services, health care benefits, etc., etc.

    We may find that the actual dollar amount is nearly $200K now, even without a pay raise.

    Also, please share what comparable states are paying their political leaders.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Dec. 10, 2013 7:06 p.m.

    Hmmmmmm. High salaries. Taxpayer paid medical care with lifetime care for the exec and family after only a few years of service. Generous retirement plans. A tight-knit network of Good Ol' Boys to watch your back.

    Sounds like a good deal to me. Where do I sign up?