Utah Jazz: Better game but same losing result for Jazz against Blazers

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  • sky2k1 Provo, UT
    Dec. 11, 2013 9:59 a.m.

    of course burke won't be a top 5 pg any time soon. I think he will be a good pg for us, but he won't pass cp3, d will, d rose, westbook, lillard, rondo or others any time soon. doesn't mean he will be a bad PG...the nba just has a lot of good ones. and for the record, that's not my top 6, those are just names i could come up with while writing this comment. I would like to get a new coach, but it's not likely to happen this year. until then, i hope corbin does a good job.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    Dec. 10, 2013 8:54 p.m.


    should i remind you about Chauncey Billups?...how about Steve Nash?...he only produced in his 5th year...some stars...are actually developed...so you cannot say that stars are stars from the get go....its not absolute...some are developed...but....when looking at the lineup....there are a long ways to go....Hayward...if he could shoot efficiently...would be a solid number 2 option...but right now...i feel he is a 3rd option....Burke is good...but i agree not top 5...but..a team won without players on the top 10....or top 20....detroit...with billups hamilton sheed and ben at tayshaun....they knew their roles...played in a system that worked to their strengths...and they won it against a stacked lakers team....im not expecting the Jazz to win anytime soon....but to say that no team can win with stars...is false...you can win...its just a matter of playing to your strengths...a winning system...and teamwork...

  • Little Andy Tremonton, UT
    Dec. 10, 2013 6:56 p.m.

    Sorry to say but there is no way Parker and Wiggins end up on the same team. And with Stern secretly picking the ping pong balls Jazz will be lucky to be picking fifth..

  • Man in Charge Chihuahua, 00
    Dec. 10, 2013 12:53 p.m.

    "You are closer to being the next Toronto, Minnesota, or Charlotte than you are San Antonio."

    Charlotte is currently a playoff team. They just beat the Warriors last night which has sent them out of a playoff spot and into the lottery which is good new for the Jazz because they own the Warriors pick in a star studded draft. Parker and Wiggins on the same team will all but assure the Jazz a decade worth of championships.

  • Man in Charge Chihuahua, 00
    Dec. 10, 2013 12:41 p.m.

    There You Go Again.

    It's called tanking. It's no use to even compete unless you have a bonafide superstar. Jabari Parker is LDS and he will never leave if the Jazz get him.

  • Man in Charge Chihuahua, 00
    Dec. 10, 2013 12:37 p.m.

    Denver to Portland

    Why would the Jazz want Portlands old junk Nate McMillan? He's even worse than Corbin.

  • Little Andy Tremonton, UT
    Dec. 10, 2013 10:46 a.m.

    It is the same result because it is the same coach.. remedy ?? get a new coach..

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Dec. 10, 2013 9:29 a.m.

    Half empty or half full?

    I prefer to look on the bright side...

    The JAZZ could possibly...finally...be #1.

    At 4-19, the JAZZ are on their way to possibly the worst season in the history of the franchise.

    8 of the next 11 games are on the road.

    The JAZZ are 1-10 on the road.

    The JAZZ are making steady progress toward 12-70.

    9-73 is the worst record in the history of the NBA.

    This could be a record breaking season.


  • gehelmke Bastrop, TX
    Dec. 10, 2013 9:10 a.m.

    @goforit...Your post misses the problem completely....Where the Jazz miss the boat is in the fact that when you rebuild a team, the first piece you need to have in place is a coach. Assuming you intend to rebuild with young players, this coach should gather around himself a team of coaches who are teachers......You can tell a player how to take position on defense over and over again, and he might not get it...Sometimes you have to show him how it's done.

    As for the individual abilities of the team members, it's impossible to tell what the potential of any of them actually is...Most all have only been coached by Corbin, and have probably regressed....Your observations are somewhat akin to a guy who plowed and fertilized his field and planted his seeds....then hired a gardener and left it with him. The gardener never irrigated, and left the field after a week, saying these seeds are no good....None of them came up......

    When you're building a team, just like when you plant a garden, a lot of nurturing is required. Without the nurturing, nothing comes to fruition.

  • Dukester VANCOUVER, WA
    Dec. 10, 2013 9:08 a.m.

    I agree totally with "goforits" last sentence of "getting use to losing", especialy if the Jazz decide to continue on their current course. How sad! Hey Miller, how about taking a proactive approach and make some decisions on improving the team? Perhaps you could begin by getting another coach. We just can't continue for the remainder of the season with the lame excuse that we are "teaching, and giving the young guys a little experience".

  • goforit Provo, UT
    Dec. 10, 2013 8:09 a.m.

    Jazz fans why are you always talking about developing young players. Lilliard didn't need time to develop, he was great immediately. Aldridge is the same. Look at the stars in the NBA, they were the best from the beginning and barring injury remain way ahead of the competition throughout their careers.

    The Jazz have average players who will only get to above average if they work hard. This group will never compete for a championship maybe not even the playoffs no matter who coaches them. You are closer to being the next Toronto, Minnesota, or Charlotte than you are San Antonio.

    Favors will be like Chris Bosh a fairly good number 3. Hayward will be a less defensive Kirilenko, Kanter is good offensively but will always struggle on defense. Burke will never be a top five PG most likely will always be in the 10 to 15 best point guards in the league. Burks will be a good bench scorer nothing more. After that there is nothing that will help the future.

    You are still two legit stars short of even having hope for the future. Get use to losing.

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 11:05 p.m.

    @Denver to Portland
    The Jazz core players are younger than Portland. Biedrins, Jefferson, and Willams are the only "old players on the team and they are all in the last year of their contracts. The core players for the Jazz, Favors,Kanter,Burks,Burke,and Hayward make up the youth movement and those other guys will be gone next year and replaced with a great draft pick or 2. Marvin Williams might get resigned if he continue playing well but I suspect it will be for less than the 7.5 million he is making this year.

  • RBN Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 10:16 p.m.

    @Denver to Portland,

    Your points are well-taken. Knowledgeable Jazz fans have been taking Corbin to task for two years. His tactics are questionable at best, and his lack of results is obvious. More distressing is the lack of player development.

  • Denver to Portland Portland, OR
    Dec. 9, 2013 9:35 p.m.

    Awesome game for Portland. Wow, Utah's coach is terrible. He pulls out his leading scorer and perhaps his best player in the 4th when the game was being decided. He needs to be let go. Utah should go after Hollins, George Karl,or McMillan as their next coach.

    You Jazz fans can always say we're young, we're learning etc., well Portland has a younger team than Utah....and Portland is at the top of the Western Conference. No excuses Jazz fans.

    Go Blazers!