The Stanford game was a complete fluke
My predictions for next year as a Utah fan ISU-W FSU-W @M-tossup (they really
aren't that great) @UCLA-tossup USC-tossup (home + no marquis Lee or Silas
Redd) @OSU-tossup WSU-W @CU-W UA-W (home + no Kadeem Carey) @ ASU-tossup UO-L @
S-L As long as we don't lose all of tossups we'll be fine.
“That’s how close we were, but close doesn’t count.
There’s nobody in this building that doesn’t understand that. We all
understand that,” Whittingham said. “So we’re all working hard
to try to get over that hump. That’s our objective.”Gee,
if the Conference of Champions just had horse shoes as a competitive sport the
Ute would be right up there with the leaders with their close calls.Trying to get over the hump is a worthless effort. The Utes can be trying for
the next three years and all they will do is get closer but never getting over
the HUMP, but they will keep trying.As Nike would tell us "JUST
DO IT", trying is for losers just like the looking at teams in the
championship games and saying we got close to them or we beat them so we must be
making progress. You're not making progress if you keep losing seven games
in a season and missing bowl games.Get real and make real progress
by winning more than your losing.
PAC stickers anyone?From reading all of these comments it is clear
that conference affiliation and beating BYU is king for Ute fans.So
Whit is a great coach. The u would be crazy to fire him. Who would they hire?
Be patient utah, you will win the conference every now and then (once every
10-12 years is realistic). No one is poised to dominate year in and year out in
the pac 12. The utes are facing what UCLA, Ariz St, USC, Cal, Stanford, UW have
faced. All of them have been a laughing stock at least a couple times in the
last decade and had some good years also. It is very unlikely that there is
going to be another USC/Oregon perennial power over a decade any more in the PAC
12. Be happy. Do your best. Enjoy the high times and get through the rough
times. End this rubbish of firing Whittingham. Crazier words have rarely been
spoken in the ruby-crimson palace. You beat my Cougars now be happy and end the
loco talk of "burning coach W at the stake".
@Jazzer The Jazz are probably the worst team in the NBA.
"three of the setbacks were by a touchdown or less. Two other losses came
without starting quarterback Travis Wilson, who was sidelined when an
intracranial artery injury was discovered during concussion tests following the
ASU game."All of their wins were by a touchdown or less. If
they are getting close to getting over the hump, they are also getting close to
sinking further below the hump simultaneously. Sorry the logic is
Who cares about BYU, Utah or USU. Our football teams are never going to be
anything. We will continue to be good teams, but not great. lets talk about
When is Whittingham gonna admit that he sucks at coaching?
@TroyTownOnly a delusional Ute homer would claim that Utah's
worst case scenario would be only 2 losses versus 4 programs that the Utes have
never beaten.-----------Get a clue, we last played
Houston in 1978 and Texas once in 1982. Newsflash Utah is a much better program
now... BYU fans should know considering you guys can no longer beat us.If Utah can handle @BYU and beat Stanford then I think with a healthy QB we
would beat Texas, @Houston, and Boise State.FYI Utah's talent
since 2008 has improved according to Rivals. Only a hater would suggest Utah
with better talent would do worse playing a mid-major schedule, considering we
finished 33-6 while BYU finished 28-11 playing the same schedule. Plus our
talent has improved and yours has tanked (according to Rivals/Scouts/ESPN).Our problem isn't the lack of talent against teams like BYU,
we're 8-1, it's the PAC-12.
@spokane ute"Now Duck Hunter, you should know by now that I
don't respond to your comments."Uh....that was you second
response to me in this article alone. LOL!
@u 90Perhaps you need to introduce yourself to sagarin which has
utah rated 3rd in SOS. I like how you just made smoething up and tried to pass
it off as truth while also trying to degrade the guy that was actually correct.
81UteVery misleading??Ok, Utah has never beaten an FBS
level Boise State; Utah did manage to squeak out a couple of wins over Big Sky
conference BSU teams - feel better now?The Utes have been pummeled
by the FBS Broncos.Utah's problem with beating elite teams like
Texas and Notre Dame is only one elite team in the history of Utah football has
agreed to an OOC visit to RES, and the Utes simply aren't good enough to
beat quality elite teams on the road, in fact, the Utes aren't even good
enough to beat middle of the PAC teams with winning records on the road.
SpokaneUte: "Now Duck Hunter, you should know by now that I don't
respond to your comments."...He says in repsonse to
@TroyTownYou stated: "As a program, the Utes have never beaten Texas,
have never beaten Boise State, have never beaten Houston, and have never beaten
Notre Dame."Very misleading.Utah is 2-5 against Boise StateUtah is 0-1 against TexasUtah is 0-1 against Notre DameOnly
Houston has any validity 0-4 except, Utah did not play any of those teams this
year. Here is one for you Utah is 54-31-4 against BYU.
I was happy to see Utah beat Stanford. Sorry to see the season end in a losing
record for the utes - Whitingham is a classy guy. BYU is a much better team at
the end of the season than the first. I think most State of Utah college
football fans would prefer a BYU - UTAH game as the final game of the year - but
the scheduling gods do not see this rivalry as worth preserving. I look forward
to the rematch.
U 90"Uteanymous, you are correct Sagarin ranks BYU #30 and Utah
#32. However Utah beat BYU at LaVell Edwards Stadium, so what does that tell
ya?"It tells me that one game does not a season make.Sagarin's current ranking for Utah's SOS is #3. Sagarin lists
Washington State at #1 and Arizona State #2.Ironically, WSU and ASU
will both be bowling while the Utes are sitting home still whining about how
hard their schedule was.Sagarin ranked BYU's schedule #35,
tougher than any schedule in Utah history, prior to this year.
Uteanymous, you are correct Sagarin ranks BYU #30 and Utah #32. However Utah
beat BYU at Lavelle Edwards Stadium, so what does that tell ya?Thomas J., you need to be introduced to the most respected SOS source... its
called Sagarin and Utah DID have the #1 schedule. Look it up.All
BYU fans, thanks for your continued obsession with all things Utah demonstrated
by your daily visits and multiple posts on Utah stories.
Uncle Rico"Take a look at the final BCS standings."Final BCS Standings: Sagarin, Colley, A-H, Billingsley, Massey, Wolfe, CPU
AVG#40 BYU 31, 33, 36, 35, 41, 36, 35#54 Utah 60, 58, 45, 65,
39, 52, 54Despite the bluster from the hill, BYU finished 14 places
HIGHER in the final BCS standings than Utah.btw, in case you
didn't notice, in the Sagarin ranking used in the BCS ranking formula:#31 BYU#60 UtahThrow yourselves another parade for
having the 3rd toughest SOS.
UteologyWho cares what Utah did in their final couple of years in
the MWC; most of those players are long since gone and the Utes have been in
steady decline since 2008.Sagarin ranks Utah WORSE than BYU, so
it's logical to assume that Utah would do WORSE against BYU's schedule
than BYU did.As a program, the Utes have never beaten Texas, have
never beaten Boise State, have never beaten Houston, and have never beaten Notre
Dame.Only a delusional Ute homer would claim that Utah's worst
case scenario would be only 2 losses versus 4 programs that the Utes have never
Take a look at the final BCS standings. BYU played 1 team in the
top 25 (#19 Wisconsin) - BYU went 0-1Utah played 5 teams in top 25 (#5
Stanford, #10 Oregon, #14 ASU, #17 UCLA, #25 USC) - Utah was 1-4BYU
lost to Utah (one of worst in Pac-12) and Virginia (worst team in ACC and maybe
in FBS).If 2013 is BYU's toughest schedule ever (as many fans
claimed), then BYU has had a history of playing against poor competition.
I hope Travis is alright and his health considered above all else. Better find
good depth at QB, and with that they're probably set for a 6-6 or better
year. Whit will come through.
Whittingham said the main areas of deficiency have been identified and will be
addressed heavily in this year’s recruiting class, which will be geared
toward receivers and the secondary. Getting more speed on the perimeter is the
priority.-----------No! The priority should be building
PAC-12 depth at QB. If Kyle goes into another PAC-12 season with a D2 or
walk-on QB as backups then he might as well resign after next season.Hope Wilson is healthy, but if not the priority should be finding
Manning's backup in the offseason.
@CGPlaying BYU's schedule, a team that lost to WSU(6-6) and
barely beat Colorado(4-8) to end the season, would have been stomped by Texas,
crushed by Wisconsin, and beaten by Houston, Boise State, Georgia Tech, Notre
Dame and Mid Tenn St to finish 5-7, right where U finished with your own
schedule.--------------Reality disagrees with your hyper
emotional imagination.Utah finished 33-6 in the MWC and 8-1 since
then playing YOUR schedule. Those 7 loses were all to AP Top 25 teams.
So #25 Notre Dame and #19 Wisconsin would most likely be loses for
Utah playing YOUR schedule... 10-2 at worst.
@ UteMiguelAmen!Positives from this year to carry
forward:Got a signature PAC12 win!LB play was markedly improved over
last year, and everyone is back (except Reilly) plus Paul next yearGreat
punter and kickerThey were in every game at least for awhile (even Oregon
was 17-14 in the 3rd quarter)Wilson improved a lot before he got hurt
(though his throwing motion still needs work)NegativesMissed a
bowlToo many interceptions, receiver drops, and tipped balls (A-Rod needs
to go)O-line was a disappointment (maybe need a coaching as well)Awful kick return coverage and kickoff returns (gave up 2 TDs and I miss
Reggie Dunn)Wilson may be doneOnly 3 Ints (couldn't even get
one against WSU who threw at least 1 in every other game!)0 PAC12 road
winsFor next season to be successful, the corners need to improve
(like the LBs did from last year to this year), the O-line needs to play well,
either Wilson is able to come back and shows further improvement or someone else
needs to step up big time, and Whittingham needs to play to win rather than not
lose (i.e. against ASU).
It was frustrating Whittingham! Now please fix it. Here's how I
look at it:If Coach makes some heads roll (Roederick, Finn, Shah) he
could potentially add another year, if next year goes poorly. --if
not--Whittingham HAS to at least go 7-5, with a 5-4 conference record.
Beat WSU and CU and split USC-UCLA, UO-OSU, ASU-UA.Good luck
Whittingham!! I'm pullin' for ya!!
Wish BYU fans would find something better to do than bash the team that beats
them EVERY YEAR. It's like they have some kind of mental block that causes
them to forget that Utah has beat BYU four straight. With that fact in mind, it
is truly delusional to think BYU would do better with Utah's schedule.
@ U90:If that's your idea of a valid translation, you need to
go back to language school. Because that one lost you a lot of credibility.The real fact of the matter is that this year BYU had a strength of
schedule rated more difficult than any Utah has ever had in the entire history
of their football program prior to this season. And that schedule is also rated
in the top 20% of all schedules nationally this year. And BYU is still going to
a bowl game with a winning season.Contrast that to Utah who last
year had a schedule numerically rated softer and easier than the one BYU had
this year, and they still finished with a losing record and unable to qualify
for a bowl game. That is a simple, verifiable fact. And one that doesn't
need any translation.Using that "Whoa is me. Look at my hard
schedule" as an ongoing excuse for a losing record multiple years in a row
is getting really old. No one is buying into it any longer... except for a few
ultra-Ute fans. No one forced Utah into the PAC12. So drop that excuse.
@ U90:Don't be ridiculous. If that really is yoiur
"translation", then you just lost a lot of credibility... which is not a
need for "congratulations". The real translation and truth
of the matter is that BYU this year had a strength of schedule higher and harder
than Utah ever had prior to this year... ever in their entire history... and one
that ranked in the top 20% of all football teams in the nation... and they still
qualified for, and won their bowl game. Contrast that to Utah who
had a strength of schedule last year which was numerically rated lower and
easier than the one BYU had this year... and they still didn't qualify for
a bowl game... with their losing record. Using that "whoa is
me... look at my tough schedule" for an excuse for a losing record multiple
years in a row gets pretty old pretty fast. Not many are buying into it... other
than a few ultra-Ute fans. No one forced Utah to join the PAC12. So quit the
excuses. You'd better start worrying more about facts and less
about translations if want to eventually get back any of that lost credibility.
U 90Since you've obviously taken the time to research
Sagarin's rankings, where does Sagarin rank BYU and Utah?Just
imagine where Utah would be right now if Colorado hadn't been invited to be
Utah's new conference roomie.
U 90Despite all of your SOS spin, Sagarin still ranks BYU ahead of
Utah, and in the bcs rankings, Utah isn't even close:#40 BYU#54 Utah
Spokane Ute"Yes, and I too went to the NCAA store in search on
an Independent Sticker in support of by friends down south."The
point that you've obviously missed is that BYU fans root for BYU and take
pride in the accomplishments of BYU; they don't have to rely on the
accomplishments of other programs as their only source of pride.
As a BYU Cougar, it used to be that I had a reason to route for the Utes on
occasion, since they were in the same conference. I always hoped Utah did well,
except when they played us. For many Cougars, they no longer have to pay much
attention to Utah. Not for me. Seeing as how the Utes are now in the same
conference as my Arizona Wildcats, I now have double the enthusiasm for their
annihilation on the field and double the reason to hope that they aren’t
@swampedI've had that sticker for 29 years, it is not on my
vehicle, I simply have it. I have never owned another sticker either, certainly
not one proclaiming some affiliation with much greater and more accomplished
schools in a desperate bid to try and capture some of their refracted glory.That is the point. I don't need to plaster some sticker on
everything I own to legitimize my chosen school, especially when that sticker
doesn't even have the name or logo of my school on it. I leave that for
insecure utah "fans" to do. Individuals so insecure in their position of
conference bottom feeder that they have to proclaim conference membership over
school. It's a sad thing to see but funny all at the same time. lol
Kyle Whittingham is grossly underpaid and deserves a raise.
and the worst news of all is that because of the utes, WSU will be going to a
bowl game this year for the first time in 10 years. WSU should send a dozen
roses to the hill for being replaced at the basement of the pac. In fact 9 of
the pac teams are going bowling, how sad for Utah.
@ Tators "if BYU is irrelevant in football, but are still going to yet
another (their 9th in a row) bowl game (winning their last 4 in a row), then
what does that say about Utah?It says that Utah plays a much tougher
schedule than BYU. If you want proof of Utah's dominance over BYU, look no
further than head-to-head results 0-4 and 3-9. Here's how it works for
BYU every year.... lose to all the good teams on the schedule then beat up on
all the mediocre/crappy teams which is usually about 7-9 guaranteed wins.Please name one season where BYU has beaten more than 1 team that
finished the year ranked. I'll save you some time, it's never
happened. By contrast Utah has beaten 4 teams that finished the season ranked
in both 2008 and 1994. Save Miami, BYU chokes away all big games. At least
Utah schedules tough and rises to the occasion some years.Translation: BYU schedules weak and goes to bowl games. Congratulations.
Utah would have easily gone bowling without Wilson's injuries. At 4-2 with
two losses by a fraction, Utah was in prime shape for a bowl except Wilson went
south from there. QB issues (lack thereof) and insufficient
recruiting at that position has put the pressure on Whittingham. Wilson showed
some signs but his long term prognosis is a huge question mark for me. Is he
mentally strong enough to bounce back? Perhaps, but Conner Manning is very
intriguing. Here is the question for me though. Who gets all the meaningful reps
in spring and fall. It has not just been that the Utes have lacked a
QB, but they also haven't committed and set up their QBs for success the
last 5 years. The QBs have consistently been hurt or the wrong guy has gotten
the practice work and starting nod. Conner Manning is young but if he has the
spring and fall to prepare under Erickson and Johnson then I will feel better
about next years odds. The defense looked solid last year and they
return most everybody except the big loss of Trevor Reilly. Dres
Anderson will have more operation room with Kenneth Scott and Jake Murphy
cougdawgFor comparison sake here are Utah's results (per
Sagarin):Beat 3 StanfordBeat 30 BYUBeat 46 USUBeat
78 ColoradoBeat 228 WeberLost 4 OregonLost 8 ASULost 13 UCLALost 20 USCLost 22 ArizonaLost 31 Washington
St.Lost 37 Oregon StateUtah's best win #3 StanfordUtah's worst loss #37 Oregon StateBYU's best win #33 Ga.
TechBYU's worst loss #101 Virginia
@ 81Ute:The irony of your statement is that the very first comment
to this article was from a Ute fan who brought up BYU... followed later by
silverstateute (a Ute fan from Nevada), and then of course by the infamous Chris
B who seems to live for opportunities to disparage BYu anywhere and anytime he
can.. BYU fans then simply replied to those negative accusations. So as is evident, it's not BYU fans who need to get over themselves...
it's your fellow Ute fans who somehow need to get over BYU... but obviously
haven't been able to. And as long as Utah stays in their
current losing mode, there isn't much chance of that changing. After that
last BYU game in SLC, the Ute fans stormed the field not once, or even twice...
but 3 different times. It then became totally obvious the BYU game is still the
biggest game of the year for most of them... yourself excluded. Especially with
no bowl game. It appears that annual close win against BYU in recent
years is almost the only thing left they have to crow about. So the next 2 years
are going to be extra tough.
@Christine B. Hedgehog,Leach has taken Whittingham to the wood shed
each meeting? Utah beat WSU 48-6 in 2012.@Ed GradyI would
rather hire a washed up offensive guru than rehire and OL coach and pretend that
he's an OC. Twice.
@Chris I guess you dont remember the USC game. Both USU and Utah played them at
home. USU lost by 3 and Utah lost by 16 points. I think USU would of had a close
record to what Utah got this year if they played the same schedual.
Spokane Ute,Keep telling us come March when BYU gets a six or higher seed
in the big dance and Utah is on the outside looking in because of their
confidence building weak OOC schedule!!! I would much rather finish 1st-3rd in
the WCC then close to last in the PAC12!!!GO BYU RISE UP!!!
cougdawg,Yes, cupcakier. How are you spinning next year's
schedule with 7 cupcakes? Would be interested in your take. I
can't guarantee Utah will go bowling next year with most likely the #1 SOS
again in 2014 replacing BYU with Michigan and USU with Fresno. But I can pretty
much guarantee that BYU will go bowling with that lame 2014 schedule.And lets not pretend that BYU's 8 win season in 2013 was built on beating
any quality teams. All they did was beat mostly teams in the middle to bottom
half of D1. Per SagarinLost 10 WisconsinLost 25 Notre DameLost 32 UtahLost 101 VirginiaWon 33 Ga. TeachWon 35
Texas Won 43 BoiseWon 45 HoustonWon 46 Utah StateWon 99
Middle TennesseeWon 100 NevadaWon 229 Idaho State
Most of the comments here revolve around the BYU game, I for one could care
less. I would lose no sleep if Utah never played BYU again. So cougs get over
yourselves most old time fans such as I have similar feelings. Look forward to
your own issues with your own players and schedules. Good luck and good
@ Live From the Swamp:If “BYU is irrelevant in the world of
college football” as you said, then what does that say about the Utes...
since they are ranked lower than BYU by literally every single poll and ranking
service in the nation?After if BYU is irrelevant, then why did Utah
jump substantially in the polls when they did beat BYU in the early season, when
BYU was still trying to learn their new offense?(Unlike you, I do give
credit where credit is due. And Utah deserved it in that game at that point in
the season.)And if BYU is irrelevant in football, but are still
going to yet another (their 9th in a row) bowl game (winning their last 4 in a
row), then what does that say about Utah who is sitting home for the 2nd year in
a row?You'd better hope that BYU is relevant in college
football, or else Utah is actually less than irrelevant.Either you dislike
Utah even more than you do BYU or else you should start thinking more before
writing. Sadly, you're starting to sound more and more like Chris B.
@ Live From the Swamp:People living in the swamps must have a
different perspective than the rest of us living in the real world.It's funny that you're the only person I've read that claims
BYU was lucky winning their games against Texas, Boise State and Houston. None
of the football coaches and experts saw it that way, since BYU moved up all the
national polls after each of those wins.And teams who go on 5 game win
streaks aren't lucky. That's playing well. A lucky win is when a team
can't put together any kind winning streak and suddenly wins a game where
they were considered a big underdog... such as Utah's win over Stanford. I
don't know of a single person that would bet substantial money on Utah in a
rematch.However, there are many people who would bet on BYU over
Utah in a rematch, since BYU has obviously improved a lot since then, while
there's no indication that Utah has. Again, the national polls also
currently pick BYU as the better team.Perhaps leaving the swamp for
some fresh air might clear up the thinking a bit.
@ Chris B:Here we go again... trying to explain things to people who
have a hard time. "gimme" games are not won by a single score
after letting your competition statistically outperforming you, as BYU did
against Utah in 3 of their last 4 games. Try working on your vocabulary.And "moving forward" does not mean once again finishing as one
of the worst teams in your conference... year-in and year-out, as Utah is still
doing. Moving forward means improving your record each year and at least
finishing without a losing record and becoming eligible for a bowl game... any
bowl game. Utah has not fit that definition yet. However, I sincerely hope they
soon will. Absolutely no polls or rankings say that Utah is
"head and shoulders" above anyone else in our state... except perhaps
Weber.@ Spokane Ute:I consider you one of the better and
more objective Ute fans. But when you say it must be rough on the outside
looking in, I can't help but wonder if you are you referring to Utah and
the bowl games? Most fans consider playing in post season much more important
than whatever stickers we do or don't display.
@DuckhunterA fossilized bumper sticker from the age of dinosaurs. I
can get you a "University of Utah - 1944 NCAA Champs" bumpersticker,
since you seem so intent on living in the past. The TDS has done nothing over
the past 20 years in football. BYU is irrelevant in the world of college
U90:Cupcakier? BYUs SOS this year was the second strongest EVER for any
football team from the state...stronger than Utah's last year when they
finished with just as lame a record as they did this year. Don't be jealous
because BYU actually has a winning record and goes bowling against a strong SOS,
while Utah can't find a win on the road to save them from mediocrity. And
bad news...Utah actually has to leave the state for half their games next
year...no 8 games never crossing the Utah border like this year. Happy Holidays
this year, and I'll even wish them for next year is well...heaven knows ute
fans will need some holiday cheer the next decade or so because their beloved
PAC12 utes won't be providing it.
@ CG "The truth is, your Stanford win was a total fluke, and you were lucky
to beat Utah State and BYU. The Utes were closer to finishing 2-10 than they
were to qualifying for a bowl"That's funny coming from the
team that LOST to Utah and 2-10 Virginia. But hey things are looking up for BYU
next year when the schedule gets even more cupcakier with Savannah State,
Nevada, UNLV, Cal, UConn, Virginia and Middle Tenn State.
Now Duck Hunter, you should know by now that I don't respond to your
comments. I enjoy a little back and forth with the good, but not angry or
jealous, BYU fans. Have a good life!
@spokaneYep. But then I don't need to plaster stickers all over
the place to try and offset insecurities. I don't need to try to make any
announcements. And the one sticker I do have stands on its own, it isn't a
desperate attempt to align myself with someone elses accomplishments.
Looking forward to Coach W coaching the defense at the Y in two years when the
good Dr at the U sends him packing. Then Coach Wit can take over the program in
a year or two after that. Maybe then the Y will get serious about the program
again and not worry about how to the replace names on the back of jerseys, find
a conference that matters and make a difference in lives of players, fans and
observers around the country.
Looking at next year's Utah schedule, it would be nice if BYU were on there
for the automatic win that they have become.
A 30 year old sticker. LOL!
@spokaneuteThe only sticker I own say's "BYU Football
National Champions", do you think they have one of those for utah? I bet you
can get one made that say's "utah 2nd place" though.
Playing Utah's schedule, a team that lost to Utah (5-7) and barely beat
Houston(scary American conference powerhouse) to end the season, would have been
stomped by Oregon, crushed by Stanford, and beaten by Arizona State, UCLA,
Arizona, Oregon State and Washington St to finish 3-9. You can keep the wins
over Houston, Idaho State and NevadaThe truth is, your Texas win was
a total fluke, and you were lucky to beat Houston and Boise State. The TDS was
closer to finishing 2-10 than they were to qualifying for a BCS bowl.Love the logic of our buddies from Happy Valley.
Hey Coach Andersen, Can you please come put out this dumpster fire?Signed, Utah Fans
Why are football coaches the highest paid state employees? I've been a
season ticket holder for 30 years but have not lost perspective on what college
football is about. Coach Whitt seems like a great guy and the program seems to
be devoid of any major issues or scandals. Recruit student athletes and play
smart, disciplined football. Everything else is gravy.
@plyxplyYes, and I too went to the NCAA store in search on an
Independent Sticker in support of by friends down south. The guy at the store
only laughed at me though. He did tell me that I could custom order a WCCHS
sticker though. It must be rough being on the outside looking in.
@christinaBased on your own stated criteria, which is end of season
rankings, osu is nowhere near being a ranked team. 5 straight losses and a .500
record will pretty much assure that you won't be ranked. They had a losing
record in the pac12 (4-50 and lost to all 3 top 25 teams they played. They
actually only finished 1 game better than the abysmal utah team.Thanks for further exposing your utah "fan' hypocrisy on these
matters though. utah "fan" standard states BYU gets no credit for
beating a team that is ranked at the time BYU beats them but unranked at seasons
end, but utah gets a ton of credit for losing to a team that was breifly ranked
during the year but finished nowhere near the rankings at the end of the year.
Maybe Whittingham can hire yet another washed-up offensive guru. Sid Gillman or
Bill Walsh seem to have a lot of time on their hands.
Sitting home for the holidays and not participating in a bowl game again is
totally worth being in the PAC 12. I went to the Ute zone and bought some
additional pac 12 stickers to hand out to everyone else in my family who also
suffer from inferiority complex. It is good remedy, I'm sure everyone who
passes my car with my pac 12 flag, pac 12 stickers, pac 12 license plate holder,
pac 12 baby on board sign are all jealous that we, us, the Utes, were chosen to
be crowned in pac 12 glory. While the Aggies and Cougars are all stressing
about practices and their next opponents, us Utes are content sipping out of our
pac 12 mugs enjoying pac 12 basketball.
CBDust off another shelf in your hall of fame closet for that
coveted SOS trophy.Playing BYU's schedule, a team that lost to
WSU(6-6) and barely beat Colorado(4-8) to end the season, would have been
stomped by Texas, crushed by Wisconsin, and beaten by Houston, Boise State,
Georgia Tech, Notre Dame and Mid Tenn St to finish 5-7, right where U finished
with your own schedule.The truth is, your Stanford win was a total
fluke, and you were lucky to beat Utah State and BYU. The Utes were closer to
finishing 2-10 than they were to qualifying for a bowl.The Utes got
exactly what they bargained for when they accepted their invitation to the PAC,
so stop whining about how hard your schedule is now that you've discovered
that you're in over your head... onward and "upward"4-5, 3-6, 2-7, 1-8, 0-9...
One more year for Whitt. Anything short of a bowl, and it's time to issue
his walking papers!
And to think we wont have a gimme game against byu.Playing the
hardest schedule in the country would likely not end well for any team.I'll gladly take a tough schedule now as we continue to establish
ourselves in the Pac 12, as it will only benefit the program going forward.byu and usu would not beat Stanford and take ranked OSU, ranked ASU,
ranked UCLA down to the final second.This program is head and
shoulders above the non-AQ programs in our state and I'm proud of what Utah
has done in the past decade(As opposed to only being able to brag about 30 years
ago) and confident the one and only program with a future in Utah.IS
UTAHGo UtesOnward and Upward
Silverstateute,That's the irony of Utah's not renewing the
BYU game for two years; the stated reason at the time was that it gave Utah one
more difficult game among 9 other tough PAC 12 games to play, but Utah has
handled BYU the last 4 years so in hindsight Chris Hill and Whit probably wished
BYU remained on the schedule. A 6-6 or 5-7 record next year is going to seem
even less tolerable/empty to Ute fans if it doesn't include a BYU victory.
Is it too late to book some easy in-state wins? We could really use the Cougars
and Aggies back on the schedule!
When you play in a conference that throws blue chip athletes at you on a weekly
basis, what do you expect?
Ute fans, get used to tough seasons, and earning every conference win. This is
what life is like in a top tier conference.Utah isn't ready to
compete for a conference championship. I have enough respect for the other 11
teams to recognize that the Utes may never be crowned Pac 12 champs. My guess
is they will again hover around 0.500 next season.That being said, I
don't miss the MWC days. I looked forward to 11 of Utah's 12 games
this season, and I look forward to next season's games with just as much
anticipation.I agree with Coach Whitt's assessment of
Utah's needs. Hopefully he find some game-changers before the Utes kick
off next season.Go Utes!
Whit's candor about the season is refreshing. I think he has a realistic
view of how the Utes year went.I would agree that the Utes showed improvement,
but so did the Pac-12 as a whole. Both of the Arizona schools were greatly
improved as was UCLA, Oregon and Washington State. I was thinking at least two,
maybe 3 wins against those schools. I would rather see the Utes go through some
growing pains playing quality opponents, than losing to 2 or 3 top tier
opponents and still having a winning record by padding the schedule with weaker
Better move Washington over to the loss column. They just hired a coach
who's taken Whitt to the wood shed every time they've met.
The receivers dropped more passes than I've ever seen over the course of a
season. The only consistent receiver was Jake Murphy and he missed half the
season. A RB like John White and better receivers and the Utes would have
been in a bowl game.
Let's be honest here, the outlook rests with Wilson's ability to
continue playing. If he is back next year, Utah will be a bowl team. If not,
someone has to get really good, really fast.As for the schedule They
will roll Fresno St. with their QB graduation. Michigan is a toss up as you
don't know what Michigan team will show up there, the team that played OSU
tough, or the team that almost lost to Akron. Oregon St., we play in Corvallis,
but they will likely have a new QB and they lose their stud receiver. O line will be a battle, I hope someone steps up and grabs the LT position so
Poutasi can move back to RT. Definitely need more speed on the perimeter,
hopefully the young talent steps up, and the 2 JUCO receivers can make an
immediate impact. Rumor is that Tevin Carter is scheduled to make it by
spring, if he does he will most certainly help in the secondary.Whit's not going anywhere, he is building this thing right, and getting
more resources to keep building.
Wait, Chrissy says no power conference team would ever play Idaho state, must be
an reporting error.
I think the conference wins were more because of a letdown by the competition
than they were a result of the Utes playing well. We are in for some rough
years and next year will be worse than this year. I hate to say it but I doubt
that KW will be coaching the Utes beyond next year.
Does whittingham survive another 5-7 season next year?
Unfortunately, next season doesn't look any better for Utah's bowl
chances:Idaho State - winFresno State - tossupat
Michigan - lossOregon State - tossupat UCLA - lossat Stanford
- lossArizona - tossupSouthern Cal - lossat Arizona State -
lossOregon - lossWashington State - winat Colorado - winWith 3 likely wins, 6 likely losses, and 3 tossups, the Utes will have
to sweep their tossups in order to be bowl eligible.The Utes play 5
road and 4 home conference games and the Utes haven't won a road game
against a PAC team with a winning record since 1996.Utah's bowl
chances could once again hang in the balance with Utah needing to sweep
Washington St and Colorado in their final two games to become bowl eligible.
The Utes have a tough schedule again next year to look forward to. They'll
have to do it, though, without the relying on their pseudo-bowl game against
BYU. I'm sure the U coaches will have them up for the
challenge of another PAC-12 run. They'll be well positioned for another
entertaining run at the division title.