BYU football: Cougars to play Washington in Fight Hunger Bowl

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  • bigirish OREM, UT
    Dec. 16, 2013 10:11 p.m.

    Someone clue me in. Why isn't Sark coaching his Washington team in this bowl game, whether or not he has been hired to coach USC NEXT YEAR? It seems like desertion at the worst possible time for a coach and team. It makes no sense. So that means an interim coach for the game and then a new coach next year? What confusion? It doesn't make sense to me and I don't think it should be allowed. Sark took them to the bowl, why can't he coach them in that bowl game? The season isn't over officially is it? I thought the bowl game was still in THIS season, because they count it in THIS season's win column. That does leave the game outcome open for too many excuses if BYU wins. Comments?

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Dec. 13, 2013 10:54 a.m.


    Middle Tennessee St. and UNLV are bowl bound; that's more than can be said of the Utes.

  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    Dec. 13, 2013 10:27 a.m.


    Finish with a winning record and a bowl game, then you can talk. There's nothing special about getting curb stomped by a strong schedule.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 13, 2013 1:21 a.m.

    @ Y>U

    Who's playing UCONN, Virginia, Nevada, Middle Tennessee St., UNLV, Cal, and Savanna St.?

    Glass house my friend....

  • Kaladin Greeley, CO
    Dec. 11, 2013 11:20 a.m.

    LOL - BYU is "arrogant" because they want to win a NC just like every other school in the country.

  • Y>U Anaheim, CA
    Dec. 10, 2013 10:14 p.m.


    "BYU is 3-8-1 all time against Colorado. Why is BYU afraid to schedule them?"

    LOL at your deliberately misleading spin.

    Why would BYU be afraid to schedule a team they've dominated since 1946?

    BYU is 3-1 versus Colorado in their last four meetings, including a dominating 41-20 win in Boulder and a 20-17 bowl win in their last meeting.

    btw, who's playing Idaho State next season?

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Dec. 10, 2013 4:10 p.m.

    As an alum of both schools, I love this matchup. However, I think BYU peaked several weeks ago and based on their performance against UNR, I would have to give the edge to UW. BYU's defense has turned out to be not as great as we thought and BYU's offense struggles to put 2 good halves together. And Hill still acts indecisive in the pocket and hasn't learned to get rid of the ball. BYU has one of the highest "sacks allowed" stats in the nation. Half of that is on the O-Line but Hill himself owns the other half.

    Eastcoastcoug is right. This "my team's better than your team" banter is getting really old. Truth is, fans of neither team have much room to brag. Until Utah can compete in the Pac 12 and BYU can beat Utah, neither fan base should be dogging on the other.

  • fender Washington, UT
    Dec. 10, 2013 1:35 p.m.


    "The reason BYU might beat Washington after losing to Utah is because BYU is playing Washington late in the season..."

    Interesting thought, but irrational. Wouldn't you assume that both BYU AND UW have improved by the end of the season? Both UW and BYU have the same record at 8-4, but BYU's record is against a SOS ranked 35. UW, on the other hand, played a SOS ranked 13. Not surprisingly, Sagarin has BYU power rated at #30 while UW is #12. So, whatever progress you think BYU has made obviously hasn't changed its position vis a vis UW.
    It's very fortunate for Utah to have played BYU so early in the season. All polls and ranking services are now contending that Utah couldn't beat them if they were to play again now.
    And remember, BYU is 4-4 overall against Washington, while Utah is a dismal 0-8.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Dec. 10, 2013 12:08 p.m.

    @ Bleed Crimson:

    The reason BYU might beat Washington after losing to Utah is because BYU is playing Washington late in the seaon after their new offensive and new offensive coordinator have been better integrated into their system.
    It's very fortunate for Utah to have played BYU so early in the season. All polls and ranking services are now contending that Utah couldn't beat them if they were to play again now.
    And remember, BYU is 4-4 overall against Washington, while Utah is a dismal 0-8.

    @ Swishfrom3:

    There is no was possible way for you to actually know what either BYU or Utah will do in their respective football programs over the next decade. None. Believe it or not, things change. Auburn was one of the worst teams in the country last year and this year they will be playing for the national championship. Literally no one would've guessed that kind of turn around at the end of last year... not even you.
    Your "facts" are starting to sound like Chris B's "guarantees".

    So many of your stated “facts” are merely opinion and nothing more. And that actually is a fact.

  • Razzle2 Bluffdale, UT
    Dec. 10, 2013 11:25 a.m.

    My fellow Utes separate real sports fans (U or Y) from (a word I can't say on comments but sounds like newbie) that live in another world.

    Any Y-Hater that is also a Ute fan commenting on this thread is exactly the same as a (newbie), maybe worse.

    Are U jealous for BYU's bowl game?

    The season is over, we're not even in the same conference. Anyone that can't cheer for more than one team is missing out on half the fun.

    As a Ute I am driving to the Fight Hunger game with my once a year Y cap on. I have a feeling I will be having a lot more fun than those that stay home no matter who you root for.

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    Dec. 10, 2013 9:35 a.m.

    Somehow BYU fans think talking about the PAC 12 = being in the PAC 12.
    You got trashed last year at home by Oregon State.
    BYU is 3-8-1 all time against Colorado. Why is BYU afraid to schedule them?
    Utah owns you.
    Idaho St. owns you. BYU can't fill a schedule without them.

  • Alpiner Alpine, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 10:20 p.m.

    Alema Harrington says BYU will win. His last prediction was BYU would put 60 on Nevada.

  • DraperUteFan Draper, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 8:40 p.m.

    Lonestar, once again you think I'm making an argument for Kyle. Read the posts carefully please. Bronco has a better winning percentage against the PAC 12, an argument you are still making that I never disputed or, not once.

    You are also arguing Texas, Boise State, or Washington, which I made a counter argument. Has Bronco beaten Stanford, Alabama, Michigan or Texas A&M? It is a moot point. BTW, what is Bronco's record against ND?

    Oregon was a middle of the PAC team the year BYU beat them and is consistent with my original comment. The PAC was 10 teams back then and the 5-6th place team from the PAC played in the Las Vegas bowl. BYU stomped them and was clearly the better team. I never said it wasn't a dominating victory...clearly it was. I said it was against one of the middle tier teams, which is accurate.

    Prior to joining the PAC 12, Kyle was 4-3 versus the PAC, so the difficulty of beating good PAC 12 teams in conference play has proven very difficult. Any argument that BYU would be markedly better is still just someone's opinion.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 8:09 p.m.


    "Snack PAC made the argument that Utah has never beaten Texas, Boise State, or Washington"

    Bronco has beaten all of those teams.

    Kyle hasn't beaten any of them.

    Check your facts; Bronco has only played California ONCE, in his first season in 2005, and barely lost to the Bears 28-35.

    Bottom line:

    Bronco is above .500 versus PAC teams with 9 wins in only 17 games.

    Kyle is well below .500 versus PAC teams with only 13 wins in 34 games.

  • DraperUteFan Draper, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 7:46 p.m.

    Lonestar, I said nothing of Bronco versus Kyle, my post about BYU versus the PAC 12, so overall historical record does matter. Snack PAC made the argument that Utah has never beaten Texas, Boise State, or Washington, so apparently BYU fans can bring up history unless that rule is applied to them and isn't flattering? Interesting logic.

    I said "in general" the teams that they beat were not the upper echelon PAC teams. There are always exceptions as you note, but "in general" is what I said and is factual. Your cohorts have bragged up wins over Washington, but at least one of those wins was in the Ty Willingham era when Washington had losing seasons. Since you said "let's not forget" well then let's not forget that two of BYU's PAC games were against Cal in the Bronco era.

    My reply was about BYU's ability to be considerably better in the PAC 12, which I said was pure conjecture and armchair quarterbacking. Historically, BYU has not been dominant against the PAC 12 and during the Bronco era have not played USC, Stanford, or ASU (three of the 4 best teams in the PAC 12 the last decade).

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 7:15 p.m.


    BYU's historic record versus PAC teams is of little consequence in comparing how Bronco and Kyle have fared versus PAC teams during the last 9 seasons.

    It's funny how you completely ignored the fact that Oregon State was ranked 16th and had narrowly missed playing in the Rose Bowl, before BYU pummeled the Beavers so badly it knocked them completely out of the Top 25.

    Oregon was 8-4 before BYU beat the Ducks.

    And, let's not forget that Bronco was more competitive in the MWC, winning 2 conference championship, to Kyle's 1, and never losing to conference bottom dwellers like CSU, Wyo, UNM, and UNLV. Kyle lost to all of them, some more than once.

    11-win seasons
    Bronco 3 (more than Utah has in their entire history)
    Kyle 1

    10-win seasons
    Bronco 5
    Kyle 3

    Kyle had one great season in 2008, but overall, Bronco has been better.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Dec. 9, 2013 6:52 p.m.


    You're right, BYU couldn't beat the team that snagged 10th place in the big bad pac12 conference ahead of those power houses Colorado and California... But then again, neither could the #1 team in the big bad pac12... lol.

  • DraperUteFan Draper, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 6:33 p.m.

    Snack PAC, although your zeal and enthusiasm for BYU competing in the PAC 12 is admirable, it is all conjecture. The numbers can always be skewed.

    Yes, BYU under Bronco has a better record than KW against the PAC 12. BYU may well improve on Utah's dismal PAC 12 record.

    The 9-8 record in general are against teams mostly in the middle to lower tier of the PAC 12. Arizona, Washington was no longer a top of the PAC team when BYU beat them, Washington State, and Oregon State. UCLA was on the downhill slide in the Neuheisel years.

    One win came against Oregon, pre Chip Kelly era when the Ducks were middle of the PAC. No games or wins against USC, Stanford, or ASU (against whom BYU is 7-24 all time).

    If you want to play the "how many times have you beaten" game, what is BYU's record against USC and Stanford (teams Utah has beaten). BYU is 0-4.

    Your argument also doesn't factor in the weekly grind of playing conference football. As I said, nobody knows how BYU would fare week in and week out against the PAC 12. Armchair quarterbacking is all it is.

  • smart_aleck Vancouver, WA
    Dec. 9, 2013 5:57 p.m.

    BYU vs. Washington is a very good match up and this should be an entertaining game. Each team has significant strengths and apparent weaknesses. I believe it will all come down to preparation. The Huskies have an advantage in that Robert Anae is entirely predictable. There's no guesswork figuring out his play calling (when it's 3rd and 14, they'll run). They won't have to spend any time preparing for trick plays or mis-directions.

    However, BYU will win if they play to the best of their abilities. If Washington matches that effort, we'll be treated to one of the better games of the 2013-2014 bowl season.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Dec. 9, 2013 3:41 p.m.

    This has to be one of the better match ups in the history of the Fight Hunger Bowl. Should be a great game.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Dec. 9, 2013 3:28 p.m.

    Bleed Crimson

    Remind us the last time uties beat Washington; or Boise State, or Texas?

    The record clearly shows that BYU would be much more competitive in the PAC 12, than the Utes have been:

    Versus PAC Opponents
    Bronco - 9-8(53%), including 2-0 versus Washington
    Kyle - 13-21((38%), including 0-2 versus Washington

    The Utes are all talk, but no walk, when it comes to actually competing in the PAC.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Dec. 9, 2013 3:21 p.m.


    "How embarrassing it must be to realize your own players called that game their Super Bowl"

    ONE player, KVN, as great as he is, does equal PLAYERS, and he certainly doesn't speak for the vast majority of BYU fans and players who would much rather have a successful, bowl-ending season, than have their entire season determined by the outcome of one game.

    Utah was better for one game in September, but your season ended before the all-so-important bowl games Utah fans used to brag about even began.

    Spin it anyway you want, but despite the early season thrill of beating BYU, Ute nation is bitterly disappointed that they'll once again be spending bowl week watching their bitter rival play in another bowl, while the Utes are back home sulking on their couches.

  • mn_online In, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 3:04 p.m.

    Lots of mean people on the discussion today. It's called schadenfreude folks -- look it up, it's not a really flattering form of insecurity.

    Looking forward to what is likely to be a very entertaining match up between BYU and Washington. Should be some points on the board, which always makes the games fun, but defense should be the difference in this one. Neither team reached greatness this season, but both enjoyed good success and should give one another a run for their money. I've got my tickets. See you in San Francisco! Here we go Cougars!

    (Go Aggies!)

  • Swishfrom3 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 3:00 p.m.

    BYU isn't a Top 20 football team. Sorry. Nor will they be a top 10 team in the next decade.

    Utah's basketball schedule is 314th out of 314 teams. Even I am embarrassed.

    Utah wont go to the Rose Bowl in the next decade. They are better than their record indicates, but the level of competition has risen far too quick for a quick catch up.

    BYU needs to pull their head out and get into a conference that matters.

    Utah's AD is a coward for ducking BYU. C'mon-its the best thing going in November!

    BYU will beat Utah in Basketball.

    Doman will be coaching somewhere by next year.

    If Wash had Sark and the motivation, they would beat BYU by 10. Now I am leaning Cougs way.

    Love both Rose and Coach K-think they are doing as well as possible.

    Saying BYU is a Top 10 Football team is about as likely as them getting to the Final 4. Not happening unfortunately.

    Utah still needs a QB.

    There is always something to complain about :)

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Dec. 9, 2013 2:36 p.m.

    There's way too much chest thumping on the part of some of my fellow BYU fans here. I remember when we complained about the opponent in our first 2 Holiday Bowls and then got beat in both games. We've been doing this for decades. Let's let our wins do the talking. While I may dislike Utah and a few of their obnoxious fans, they have gone to and WON 2 BCS Bowls. BYU has not.

    Outside of Texas and BSU, we did not have a great season. Our offense still is weak under Anae and our lines fail to control the big games. I would love to see us beat UW but will not be making any predictions.

    If you don't like the behavior of some Ute fans, don't try to be as obnoxious as they are. And let's stop talking about their bowl and record. They've beaten us 4 years straight and own the bragging rights.

  • Bleed Crimson Sandy, Utah
    Dec. 9, 2013 2:22 p.m.

    "BYU football: Cougars to play Washington in Fight Hunger Bowl"

    Looks like another PAC-12 opponent that will plaster BYU just like they did to Boise State.

    If the Cougies can't beat Utah. How are they going to handle a very solid Washington Huskies team?

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    Dec. 9, 2013 1:39 p.m.


    "Maybe next year BYU can play the likes of Stevens Henegar College, Debry University, and LDS Business College to improve their won/loss record."

    You mean so BYU's football schedule could match Utah's basketball schedule?

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    Dec. 9, 2013 1:40 p.m.


    Sorry but your spin is laughable - having high expectations, such as winning a national championship, is not the same as predicting a national championship.

  • Chamberlain Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 1:35 p.m.

    Red Humor

    One thing's for sure, at least BYU has a chance of coming out on top in this one. The Utes, on the other hand, wouldn't stand a chance.

    Washington has always been too much for the Utes to handle, 0-8 all time, 0-2 under Whittingham.

  • Kaladin Greeley, CO
    Dec. 9, 2013 1:27 p.m.

    Should BYU not be trying to win a national championship? Is that really what bugs you about BYU?

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 1:27 p.m.

    @Rose Bowl call yet?

    "Despite their constant denials, it's obvious from the comments on this blog that Utah fans would rather beat BYU, than go to a bowl.

    That's quite understandable since BYU was for over a quarter of a century (1965 to 1991), and has once again become, Utah's bowl game."

    How embarrassing it must be to realize your own players called that game their Super Bowl, took a bye week to prepare for it to make sure the seniors didn't get swept, especially after the entire fan base declared Utah "too chicken to play the cougars", only to get beat. Again. At home. But then to make a frantic and emotional attempt to turn that around on the other side? That's just sad.

  • Red Humor taylorsville, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 1:17 p.m.

    Sorry Cougs I dont see you coming out on top in this one. It should be close but Washington is too much for you guys to handle.

  • stanfunky Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 1:05 p.m.

    Sammyg, read Deseret News' article from Jeff Call, on August 28, 2011 to find out where the Top 10 expectations come from. I can't post the link here due to the DNews archaic comment rules.

    Mendenhall and his players have stated repeatedly that their goal is to win a national championship:

    Jake Heaps:
    "We have high expectations for ourselves...We're shooting for a national championship and a chance to play for a BCS game. That's what we're going to play for.

    JJ DeLuigi:
    "But what I want to be remembered for even more is bringing back another national championship..."

    The way Mendenhall sees it, by moving ahead as an independent, anything can be achieved. That would include winning a national championship. "When I consider what are the obstacles and is it possible, I think it is," Mendenhall said. "I would just as soon say it. There will be detractors everywhere that say it's not possible. I'm not one of them. I think it is possible."

  • Rose Bowl call yet? Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 1:02 p.m.

    Despite their constant denials, it's obvious from the comments on this blog that Utah fans would rather beat BYU, than go to a bowl.

    That's quite understandable since BYU was for over a quarter of a century (1965 to 1991), and has once again become, Utah's bowl game.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Dec. 9, 2013 12:45 p.m.


    Utah's win over Stanford was as big a fluke as Virginia's win over BYU.

    For all of Utah's so called dominance in that game, Stanford was one errant pass away from beating the Utes on the final play of the game, similar to the tipped pass that cost BYU the game against Virginia.

  • DraperUteFan Draper, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 12:42 p.m.

    From this Ute fan, best wishes to BYU...should be a very good matchup and possibly one of the better bowl games before the January slate.

    I know BYU fans love Sarkisian and he did an admirable job in Seattle as coach of the Huskies, but I actually think Washington scored getting Peterson as their new coach. With the recruiting success he had at Boise State, taking his success to a traditionally strong Washington Husky program could make them the team to beat in the PAC in 2-3 years. I see the Huskies possibly competing for a national championship one day with Peterson at the helm. I think he is the best coach in America.

    I'm not going to lie, as a Ute fan it stinks not going to a bowl game, even if it were the Gildan New Mexico Bowl. I'd rather be bowling in a warm climate in December.

    No reason to hate on one another BYU and Utah. We don't have to like each other much, but success at either school is good for all programs in the state.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Dec. 9, 2013 12:40 p.m.

    "I encourage all Cougar fans to set aside petty rivalry animosity this year and invite a Ute into your home to watch the bowl game. It's the least we can do for our down trodden rivals."

    ED - that is one of the most compassionate remarks I've ever heard coming from a Cougar and going to a ute.

    I will take your advice, and furthermore I will serve crimson sparkling cider and a big drum stick. If chris b would show up, I have a quart of eggnog for him.

  • DaveKnowsWhatsUp Bloomington, IN
    Dec. 9, 2013 12:30 p.m.

    bungalow, maybe you're new here, but there's something we've all been saying all year long. It really stinks to lose to the U, thanks for pointing that out, but it's something that we didn't already know. However, our point is that our season means so much more than just one game. A winning record and a bowl game is better than already having your locker cleaned out, no matter how you spin it. period.

    The U game leaves a bitter taste, sure, but I would have forgotten about you guys in September if you weren't always on here to remind us of your "superiority". And I think that's what drives you guys so crazy, BYU isn't as obsessed with the U, as you guys are with us. Either way, after all is said and done and things are written down in the record books, BYU will have a winning season for 2013, and that's really what matters to me.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 12:27 p.m.

    @ Spokane Ute:

    I agree with you. It will be good matchup. As big of a challenge as BYU could've hoped for in order to finish up this season with some national attention should they win.
    Same for the Aggies. Playing a 1-lose nationally ranked team is a tall order. But I think they will rise to the challenge.
    Hopefully, both teams will represent our state well.

    And here's also hoping that we get all 3 of our local colleges back representing our state in bowl games next year... similar to what we did 2 years ago.

  • MurrayMike Murray, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 12:23 p.m.

    People, BYU won't be facing Chris Peterson a second time this season. An interm coach will be at the helm not Peterson. That being said, I think the cougars will win a close one. Our run defense should keep this close. With a good field, I think Hoffman makes a "pre draft" statement and has 8-10 catches for 120 yards. Van Noy has 2 sacks and an interception and the Cougars win by a score of 35 - 27

  • Crow Sandy , UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 12:19 p.m.

    @ Marked it Down

    You are right Utah only had one quality win this year, but where you are wrong it was not a fluke. Utah dominated Stanford in the trenches and in the skill positions. Take away the kick return for a TD and the score is not even that close.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Dec. 9, 2013 12:05 p.m.

    Good match up; looking forward to it. Bishop Sankey is the real deal!

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 12:01 p.m.

    bungalow (aka Chris B)

    LOL at your whiny, delusional hyperbole.

    BYU finished 5-2 against teams that won 8 or more regular season games.

    While BYU is playing in their 9th straight bowl game (ties Utah's best consecutive bowl appearance streak, though not even close to BYU's best, which is 17), the Utes will once again be spending quality time with their PAC 12 stickers.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 11:55 a.m.

    @ ekute:

    As an ardent BYU fan, I personally don't like most of the bantering back and forth between BYU and Utah fans. Most of it is uncalled for. But because Utah is no longer playing, a lot of the original Ute fan comments on these recent BYU articles are somewhat negative. And a lot of the anti-Utah comments are in response to those anti-BYU comments.

    You are usually one of the more objective commenters... while still strongly supporting your team. I've admired that approach and hope you and most of the rest of us can continue to try keeping the uncalled for negative statements in context. It's easy for most of us to get our ire up when someone puts down "our" team, regardless of the reason. It's not easy to keep from responding in a similar defensive way. I genuinely admire that you and a few others (on both sides) are usually above that kind of stuff.

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    Dec. 9, 2013 11:47 a.m.


    More sour grapes hyperbole from our jealous little friends on the hill.

    BYU played the 35th toughest schedule in the country in 2013 and succeeded where the Utes with their 3rd toughest schedule failed.

    BYU beat SIX bowl-bound teams that won at least 7 regular season games, which is equivalent to the best regular season record the Utes have had since joining the PAC.

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    Dec. 9, 2013 11:38 a.m.

    Jon Wilner calls the Fight Hunger Bowl a WINNER:

    "The San Francisco-based game will match Washington and Brigham Young, two of the most successful programs in the west."

    BYU is definitely going to have to play one of their best games of the season if the Cougars are going to have any chance of beating Washington.



    Want some cheese to go with that whine? Seriously, you're here on a BYU bowl article talking smack, while whining about BYU fans not respecting your one-game-makes-a-season fantasy?

  • Ed Grady Idaho Falls, ID
    Dec. 9, 2013 11:23 a.m.

    I encourage all Cougar fans to set aside petty rivalry animosity this year and invite a Ute into your home to watch the bowl game. It's the least we can do for our down trodden rivals.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 11:12 a.m.

    It'll be interesting to see what Sankey can do against BYUs defense. Fortunately for Washington, they do have the ability to throw it, otherwise they'd be in trouble like Georgia Tech was.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 11:12 a.m.

    @ Chris B:

    You should keep in mind that many (if not most) of your "LOL" statements have ended up with egg on your face over the past few years.
    You should also keep in mind that you picked BYU to lose in most of the last 4 bowl games that they've won in a row.
    As such, your football credibility concerning anything BYU was lost a long time ago. Nobody pays much attention... accept to laugh a bit at your extreme anti-BYU rhetoric... just like I'm now doing.

    Since Utah football is currently looking for a comfortable couch in front of a tv... again, have you got any more of your "guarantee's" for us on the upcoming football bowl games regarding other teams still playing?

  • LivinLarge Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 11:09 a.m.

    Congratulations Cougars, make us proud!

  • ND95CA Lincoln Park, IL
    Dec. 9, 2013 11:08 a.m.


    "Who got the better draw?"

    It'll be interesting to see how much interest the Pinstripe Bowl draws with Notre Dame(8-4) versus Rutgers(6-6), especially amongst Fighting Irish fans.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 10:52 a.m.

    BYU doesn't have a "killer" schedule next year. It is hopefully a top 50 schedule with several decent mid-level teams. Still a better schedule than nearly all the ones BYU played in conference history, just not as juicy as 2013 was. BYU faces three stiff challenges on the road with UCF probably being the most difficult game. Hopefully UConn and Virginia win more next year. UConn finished hot going 3-0 and Virginia had three games they lost that they were oh so close.


    1 @UCF
    2 @Texas

    Really Good Teams

    3 @Boise State
    4 USU
    5 Houston

    Bowl Teams

    6 @Middle TN State
    7 UNLV

    Not so good

    8 Nevada


    Virgina, @UConn (who ended 3-0), Savannah State, @Cal

  • Y>U Anaheim, CA
    Dec. 9, 2013 10:50 a.m.


    Congratulations on your state championship - high school days are fun to remember.

    Meanwhile, BYU will be playing for their 5th straight bowl win, while our jealous little brothers have already clinched their 3rd season without a bowl win in the last 5 season.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 10:46 a.m.

    They already did, a long time ago. I don't know about dropped prices but I work in warehousing and see that Kraft donates tons of outdated and slightly damaged items to the food banks.

  • Dibs Alpine, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 10:37 a.m.

    If Kraft wants to fight hunger maybe they should drop their prices instead of spending advertising dollars on a bowl game.

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    Dec. 9, 2013 10:36 a.m.

    Who got the better draw?

    BYU playing Washington in San Francisco on Friday evening, December 27th?


    Notre Dame playing Rutgers in The Bronx on Saturday afternoon, December 28th?

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 10:18 a.m.

    No, we're not proud of our lack of success in the Pac 12.

    We are proud of our conference membership and instate domination... and frustrated by the byu "fans" that take shots at the team that they can't beat under byu articles and pile on under Utah articles. Not to mention the local media bias.

  • midpacmajor Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 9, 2013 10:17 a.m.

    Why are Utah fans so obsessed with BYU's bowl game?

    Shouldn't they be more concerned with their own bowl game?

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Dec. 9, 2013 10:11 a.m.

    Great matchup in an exciting bowl venue for the BYU!

    Washington will be a much tougher opponent than Utah. The Huskies ended the season destroying Oregon State(69-27) and beating Washington State(27-17), two teams that were too good for the Utes to handle, and Washington rolled over Utah's pseudo "rival" Colorado 59-7, a team that the Utes barely beat 24-17.

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    Dec. 9, 2013 9:53 a.m.

    Sandy, UT

    "byu couldn't beat the #10 team in the Pac 12"

    So what else is new from a BYU hater's perspective like you? We heard you loud and clear! I know you think we're no good but that's not new. Yes, we lost four in a row to the Pac 12 #10. (Goodness, I hope you're not proud of that designation!) But I suppose it makes you feel superior to keep dishing that out, does it?. Well, it's ok. We're still going bowling against your Pac 12 #6 I think? and that's quite fine with us. Wish you could be a gentleman and root for BYU like many of us Cougar fans support the Utes when you're not playing us! But I guess that's just too much to ask!

    Go Cougars! Go Aggies! And good luck next year Utes!

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 9:51 a.m.

    Interesting to note that 2 of Utah's paltry 5 wins were against teams that weren't even good enough to qualify for a bowl and 2 of Utah's other wins were against teams that Utah fans have spent the entire season denigrating.

    In other words, the Utes only had ONE decent win the entire season, and that was obviously nothing more than a fluke.

    BYU, on the other hand, beat SIX bowl-bound, obviously-better-than-Utah teams, all with at least 7 regular season wins.

  • Really??? Kearns, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 9:39 a.m.

    Looking at the bowl matchups, I see that the mighty Pac 12 could easily lay a goose egg this year. We could always dream and hope they at least match last year's bowl record of 2 wins and 5 losses. Since they have a whopping 9 teams playing bowls, there is a chance they could match last year's bowl win percentage. I'm not holding my breath. Other than one or two teams, this is the conference that chokes in the post season.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 9:38 a.m.

    To all our jealous, ankle-biting little friends on the hill:

    BYU is 4-4 versus Washington, 2-0 under Bronco
    Utah is 0-8 versus Washington, 0-2 under Kyle

    BYU's chances of beating Washington - 50/50
    Utah's chances of beating Washington - 0

    BYU will be playing in their 9th straight bowl
    Utah will be suffering their 2nd straight bowl-less season



    "BYU couldn't beat the #10 team in the Pac 12"

    Neither could PAC 12 champion Stanford; more proof that the better team doesn't always win the head-to-head

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Dec. 9, 2013 9:34 a.m.


    "I can't believe BYU fans are still talking about a top ten ranking.Based on the latest ranking, BYU lost to every top 25 opponent they played this year."

    Texas was top 25 when we beat them, 30 currently. With 6 opponents BYU defeated playing in bowl games, there may well be a few that end up top 25.

    "They are going into next year with a lot of holes to fill on both sides of the ball due to graduation and a schedule that was more difficult than this year."

    You are the only one I've heard that thinks next year's schedule will be MORE difficult than this year's.

    "A taste of reality would go a long way into building BYU's credibility."

    A taste of credibility would go a long way in building your reality...

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 9:35 a.m.

    Interesting to note that every Utah loss was to a team playing in a bowl and Utah defeated 3 bowl teams including the number 5 ranked team in the nation. That also means no team that defeated Utah had a losing record. (That is of some small comfort.)

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 9:14 a.m.

    Washington and the prestigious Pac 12 will likely win this game. Washington has amazing speed and athleticism. And if anyone thinks by beating texas you've somehow proven that athleticism and speed don't matter, I just have one response: LOL!

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 9:07 a.m.

    Alls I know is Byu is easily the top 15 program.

  • Ken Sandy, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 8:47 a.m.

    byu couldn't beat the #10 team in the Pac 12

  • RedBlood Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 8:47 a.m.

    Congratulations to the Cougs for a bowl worthy season. Although things didn't look too good early on, Taysom really settled into the offense and finished strong. Washington finished the season strong and should be a great opponent for BYU.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    Dec. 9, 2013 8:39 a.m.

    Still not impressed with Robert Anae's... limited offensive schematic no mater How Fast and Furious and how many plays he gets off...It's still just as predictable and limited as it was when he left 3 years ago. The Defense is solider than it's been in a long time but the OC position is still BYU's weakest link.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    Dec. 9, 2013 8:32 a.m.

    @BlueCoug you may want to catch up on the previous news before Chris Peterson jumped ship. Tuiasosopo was named the interim and will be coaching the bowl game...anyway the Smurf Fair Tale has final come to an's over!!!

  • BYU9293 Clinton, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 8:30 a.m.

    An interesting matchup. First, one comment stated byu may get shut out, can tell you right now, not going to happen. Washington is nowhere as big or as good as Wisconsin or ND for that matter. We will score. The problem will be can we stop them from scoring. Must stop the run game first. I am not sure why fans think Washington will not be excited to play, they were not in contention for a bcs bowl so no let down. I think they will be excited and ready. Coaching changes can work both ways, can help or hurt, interesting to see what will happen with that. Many of the players feel betrayed by Sark, may motivate them. I think it will be a good game. Hopefully, we will get healthy and we will see what happens.

  • NeilT Clearfield, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 8:28 a.m.

    To all the posters using this forum to take cheap shots at Utah. Utah beat Stanford, what bowl is Stanford in? The Utes lost a one point game to ASU. ASU played Stanford for the PAC 12 championship. Utah beat BYU and USU, both bowl bound. All I am saying is the future of football at the U is not as gloomy as some posters would like to believe. The PAC 12 is a big step from the MWC. Maybe I am just an optimist by nature. I am a long time Aggie fan and Logan native who never faith in USU. Utah fans should ignore the critics and do the same.

  • Frozen Chosen Savage, MN
    Dec. 9, 2013 8:10 a.m.

    This is actually a great bowl match-up for BYU considering some of the stinker 6-6 teams out there they could be playing. This may be a minor bowl but it has probably the best match-up outside of the January bowls.

    There must be an error - I keep scanning the list of bowl match-ups and can't find Utah anywhere!

  • shadow01 ,
    Dec. 9, 2013 7:36 a.m.

    All right!!!!
    BYU and Washington in the Hunger Game......And may the Odds forever be in your favor.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Dec. 9, 2013 5:35 a.m.

    Good luck Cougars. If our offense stumbles in this one, we HAVE to get rid of Anae. I like Bronco personally and think he's a good D coach, but he has GOT to focus on our offense and stop hiring inexperienced (Doman) and goofy (Anae) coaches.

    I'm noticing a lot of other Y fans are getting antsy about this team - several years now of underperforming on offense.

  • Cinci Man FT MITCHELL, KY
    Dec. 9, 2013 4:31 a.m.

    I doubt BYU could have expected any tougher of competition than they will face this year in their Bowl Game. Washington is capable of destroying BYU and vice versa. It will be a tough challenge for the Cougs. They have shown that they can bring a lousy or no game plan at all to tough games. Is that what we can expect this game? If BYU starts out slowly offensively, they will get behind very quickly and will not be able to catch up. Coach Anae needs to get Hill to work on seam passes to tight ends, good crossing routes for tight ends and wide receivers, dump passes to backs across the middle, and lots of running back rushes. How about a screen pass or two? How about some creativity? How about a surprise play or two? How about mixing it up a little? How about we have a leading rusher who is not Hill? Are we asking too much of the coaches? Good luck Cougars, but you will have to bring a great game to this Bowl Game.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Dec. 9, 2013 2:01 a.m.

    On a serious note... BYU needs to get way better with their Offense or they will get shut out... And the Defense needs to do a better job against both the run and the pass than they did against Wisconsin or the Huskies will light the Cougars up.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Dec. 9, 2013 1:55 a.m.

    Washington's a good team... They've always been good and even without Sark they will be very good... I love both teams as I have a Degree from both schools but I have to say that I have a stronger allegiance to the Cougs...

    The Schools have played each other 8 times with a 4-4 split... The utes have also played the Huskies 8 times and are 0-8, but then they are 1-12 against the SunDevils so they are use to being constant losers in their new converence...

    I've learned that the big bad pac12 has been very grateful to utah for joining their conference, so congratulations... In fact, Washington State and Arizona are particularly grateful as some of my friends who are alumni tell me that without the utes they wouldn't have the 6 wins needed to qualify for a bowl game this year. And for the Washington State Faithful it has been 10 years since they last qualified...I'm guessing that in about 6 years the utes AD will begin lobbying to get Weber State, Evergreen State, Idaho State, and Cal Poly into the conference so they can once again get 6 wins to qualify.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Dec. 9, 2013 1:13 a.m.

    If BYU can play offense, like they did the first half, of the Boise State game, than a victory is possible.

  • RockOn Spanish Fork, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 12:15 a.m.

    My initial reaction is to expect BYU to get beaten, but in a close game much like they did against Wisconsin and Notre Dame. Especially if I read BYUphiles from Utah that love to post here. PAC12 teams obviously recruit bigger, stronger, faster athletes. But, perhaps a healthier team can gird up and play better and beat Washington much as they beat UCLA, Oregon State and Oregon in recent bowls. A less-than motivated Washington team could have a let down.

    May the force be with the Cougars so magic will happen. Still, I have concerns over BYU's o-line and the less than impressive push the d-line gives. Should be a fun game.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 11:35 p.m.

    Sorry, I made a mistake above there are ( PAC-12 teams playing in bowls. (And yes, Utah is not one of them!)

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 11:22 p.m.


    On 12/4 you posted, "let's see how the pac12 fairs during bowl season. If the conference is over .500 in bowl games then I will give them more credit with one caveat, it can't be the bottom pac12 teams beating the mwc, cusa, and other low level teams while the top pac12 teams lose. The top pac12 teams need to win most of their bowl games.

    Love it when you set the terms. The PAC-12 has 8 teams playing in bowls. Five are against BCS conference teams. I guess those are the only ones you will consider from your definition. The highest ranked bowl not against those teams is the Las Vegas Bowl matching USC and MWC Fresno State. Because the Fight Hunger Bowl is lower ranked it would appear you are considering BYU in the "other low level teams" by you definition. Wow, quite a position from you.

    Because the bowls make some attempt to match teams (ie. the PAC-12 sixth place team playing BYU) I will judge the PAC-12's bowl performance based on the entire body of work.

    Can't wait.

  • kat Ogden, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 11:08 p.m.

    I know what you mean man ...... A lot like Alabama a few years ago?

  • esodije ALBUQUERQUE, NM
    Dec. 8, 2013 10:59 p.m.

    It wouldn't be the first time BYU has beaten a "better" PAC team in a bowl game because the other team essentially failed to show up (cf. Oregon State, 2009). And it can be pretty demoralizing to lose your coach before the season is over. The biggest wild card, however, is the BYU offense and Robert Anae's play-calling.

  • DRay Roy, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 10:29 p.m.

    All I want for Christmas peace, and all I want for this bowl game fight hunger...oh, and one more thing, would like to start out 2014 with BYU having beaten Washington in the Bowl game, by a sizable margin,like say, 50-7! That's all I want. Santa are you getting this?

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 10:27 p.m.

    @Blue Coug:

    Read the article, which states Peterson will take over coaching duties after the bowl game. Am interim coach will coach WA for the bowl game.

  • Ufan Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 10:02 p.m.


    "I'm certain Washington is less than excited about this bowl or opponent."

    I guess that says it all about the stature of the Huskies compared to the Utes; we all know that the Utes would be ecstatic to be playing in any bowl.

  • Guam_Bomb BARRIGADA, GU
    Dec. 8, 2013 9:34 p.m.

    I can't believe BYU fans are still talking about a top ten ranking.Based on the latest ranking, BYU lost to every top 25 opponent they played this year. They are going into next year with a lot of holes to fill on both sides of the ball due to graduation and a schedule that was more difficult than this year. A taste of reality would go a long way into building BYU's credibility.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 9:23 p.m.

    PG #1 FAN,

    I'm confident that excuses will not be necessary.

  • Horrible Stumper Hyrum, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 9:21 p.m.

    Ok, an explanation. I have read several comments where BYU wants to be a top 10 team. The Cougs strength of schedule next year will not get it done even if they were to go undefeated next year. Next years preseason ranking will be determined by how they finish this year. If their goal is to be in the top 10 next year they will have to spank Washington in the bowl game. Do I believe they can do it? No...but I do think they can lay the ground work for the next season. The Utes have the strength of schedule to end up in the top 10 if they were to go undefeated, but based on their season this year we know that ain't happening for several years to come. if we can use Fresno and Northern Illinois as examples, the Aggies would have to go undefeated and beat everyone by 2-3 touchdowns to get a sniff of the top 10. Just say in' the Cougs are making progress, the Utes not so much.

  • PG #1 FAN Lindon, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 9:16 p.m.

    The excuses from SLC will start immediately. "The coaching change caused Washington to lose" "BYU only won the game is because Sark quit". "Washington didn't have time to prepare". This will happen for sure. Utah fans will cry when BYU beats PAC 12 power Washington.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 9:00 p.m.

    IndeMak said...

    "I'm certain Washington is less than excited about this bowl or opponent."

    I would guess that most BYU fans couldn't care less what Washington thinks. But I'm pretty sure most Cougar fans appreciate 'Ur couch perspective and interest on these matters. LOL


    "This year many fans clamored that BYU is a Top 15 school.."

    No they didn't, an absolute delusional fabrication on your part. Please find me one comment that supports this.

    I do believe IF BYU had beaten Virginia, Utah, Wisconsin and ND they could have been ranked around 15 or so but NO ONE ever stated or clamored "that BYU IS a Top 15 school".

    The only delusion going on is you making stuff up.

    Try harder.

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    Dec. 8, 2013 8:55 p.m.

    Ute fans commenting on BYU's bowl game is equivalent to BYU fans commenting on a Ute article when Utah loses.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 8:41 p.m.

    @Horrible Stumper

    Top 10? That ain't happening anytime soon.


    Yeah, I bet Washington would rather sit at home for two years than go to this bowl game. Get real.

  • IndeMak South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 8:28 p.m.

    I'm certain Washington is less than excited about this bowl or opponent.

  • redthunder Ogden, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 8:13 p.m.

    Best of luck to the Cougars. They'll need it. Chris Petersen + Bishop Sankey + Keith Price = 21 point favorites. They'll get a little taste of what Utah has to go through week after week. Time to take the medicine Cougars.

    You're kidding right? Please tell me that was just a joke. I hope that was just a joke. Wake up 1984 was a long time ago.

  • slcftball Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 7:46 p.m.

    Re stumper

    Please be realistic.

    This year many fans clamored that BYU is a Top 15 school and we proved we couldnt beat a 19 th ranked Wisconsin or 24 ranked ND. They were bigger and more dominant. Heck we lost to the team up North that went 2-7 in thier league. Say what you want, but between the lines they beat us. Again.

    So many Cougar fans are delusional and put too huge of expectations on the young men that play at BYU.

    The Top 10 teams are very very good. We are a long ways from a Top 10 team. Let's try and get inside the top 25 first. Just saying

  • Horrible Stumper Hyrum, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 6:47 p.m.

    Way to go Cougs! You just as we'll go win one against the mighty PAC 12, then you can shut certain BYU haters up. Seriously , the Cougs have to win this one if they have any hope of a top 10 ranking next year.

  • Ironmomo Ogden, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 6:31 p.m.

    Uh....the article states that Marques Tuiasosopo will be the interim coach for Washington during the bowl game and not Chris Peterson.

    Please read the article first before commenting

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    Dec. 8, 2013 6:24 p.m.

    Tuiasosopo will be coaching UW. The huskies will run all over our D with Sankey. Lots of time off between now and the game. Hope Hill can stay sharp during that time. Poor offensive strategy has kept this team from winning games against ND and Wisc. Come on Anae, lets have some fun.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 6:15 p.m.

    Now charlie Peterson can loose to byu two times this year.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Dec. 8, 2013 6:11 p.m.

    Should be an interesting game with Chris Peterson calling the shots. Go Cougars!!

  • slcftball Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 6:08 p.m.

    With a lame duck coach and not a solid practice plan leading up to the game.....I take the Cougs!

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 6:03 p.m.

    Bronco will be facing Chris Peterson for the 2nd time this season. Fun matchup.