Former BYU star Jimmer Fredette likes coming back to Utah — even if playing time with Kings is sparse

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  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Dec. 10, 2013 11:52 a.m.

    @ Rock Chalk Jayhawk 75:

    To put Stockton's rookie season in a better perspective, he had his lowest overall shooting percentage of his career. His 3-point shooting percentage was only .182 which is almost only half of his overall career average and which was much worse than any year Jimmer has ever had. Stockton even had his worst free-throw percentage to go along with his lowest assist average per game during his rookie year. So don't brag up his rookie year too much.

    If Sacramento's management is as smart as you imply, then why have they been mired in the lower tier of the Western Conference for so many years... even with so many different first round lottery picks?
    They've hired and fired a different head coach each year Fredette has been there... still with no improvement. And on top of that, Jimmer has better overall per minute stats than other players in front of him at his position.

    There's actually no valid reason not to believe Jimmer Fredette will do better with a different organization. He undoubtedly will.

    Some people have their critics no matter how well they perform. You seem to be one of Jimmers.

  • Rock Chalk Jayhawk 75 Kansas City, KS
    Dec. 10, 2013 1:29 a.m.

    @Tators that sure is some revisionist history regarding Stockton. He may have played behind The Fastest Of Them All, but that didn't stop him for setting team rookie records for assists, steals, and receiving NBA All Rookie Team votes.

    Jimmer can't even get off the bench, and no coach in their right mind is going to keep someone who will help them survive in the NBA nailed to the end of the bench. If anything the Kings have been smart because they also drafted Isaiah Thomas and now future stud SG Ben McLemore, instead of waiting for Jimmer to develop into someone that can provide actual results. Shouldn't have to do that with a Top 10 draft pick.

    The reality is at best he can be Steve Kerr or Craig Hodges 2.0 and that is even a stretch.

  • Shelama SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Dec. 10, 2013 12:55 a.m.

    I feel badly for Jimmer. I would have liked to see him do well in the NBA. Maybe some other team.

    Maybe with our fasting and prayers the Lord will bless him.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 2:24 p.m.

    I still have dreams of Jimmer one day playing for an NBA team bought by Mitt Romney and having Danny Ainge has the GM. Now that's a story that would get some coverage by the DNews!

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 2:07 p.m.

    Obviously that guys playing in front of Jimmer aren't doing the job or the Kings wouldn't be slightly better than the Jazz. It's time for the coach to stop being dumb and give him a chance. He couldn't do any worse and could actually help them. BTW for Uncle Rico, Jimmers pre-season three point percentage was way better than any starter on his team.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 1:53 p.m.

    Rock Chalk Jayhawk 75:

    Most of you Jimmer critics are probably too young to remember how John Stockton started out in the NBA. He mostly sat on the bench during his first few years. But the Jazz organization was more far-sighted than the Kings ownership is.

    There wasn't much applause from Jazz fans when Stockton's name was announced as the Jazz first round pick. Critics said Stockton was too short (same height as Jimmer) and too slow to succeed in the NBA... very similar to what Jimmer critics are now saying.
    But when Stockton finally got his chance for substantial playing time a few years later... well, the rest is history.

    I'm NOT saying Fredette will be another Stockton. But I am saying there very well could be similarities in their starts in the NBA. And with Jimmer's total lack of NBA playing time so far, there's no way anyone could yet objectively know his full potential. NO ONE!

    But hopefully, it will be known soon... with another team as far-sighted as the Jazz owners were a few decades ago when they ignored the critics of their future all-star.

  • Vladhagen Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 1:40 p.m.

    I am not saying that Jimmer ever will become a super star, but I think he could be a role player on many teams. Sacramento is not exactly a team that you desire to go to for playing time. Beyond that though, I do not claim (as some on here do) to know every little thing about how to succeed in the NBA. We all talk like we know everything about the sport and what not, but let's face it, if we knew so much, why are we on a silly comment board like this? 5'9" overweight men usually don't do much in b ball besides maybe set a mean pick in churchball.

  • caleb in new york Glen Cove, NY
    Dec. 9, 2013 1:27 p.m.

    Jimmer is a borderline NBA talent. There are a lot of guys who if a lot of different scenarios were to fall into place could be contributing players on a particular NBA team. There are 360 NCAA division 1 colleges churning out players each year, veterans coming back, and lots of foreign league stars to compete against. I hope the scenarios fall into place for Jimmer. But i doubt that his current playing time is mostly based on a supposed incompetent organization.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 12:53 p.m.

    Jimmer is a classy guy who ignores the nay-sayers. He keeps his head up and his mind focused for when his opportunity to succeed comes... and it won't be long. When a person has to wait for that opportunity, they usually appreciate it more... as Jimmer will be doing.

    There is a valid reason he was recognized as the NCAA Player of the Year a few years ago. And it won't be long before the Kings organization will regret not giving Jimmer more of chance to have helped them... as he'll be doing for the next team who signs him.
    Jimmer has the tools to succeed and will have the last laugh against his critics. Just watch and see!

  • JonA Ogden, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 11:32 a.m.

    Can we please stop with the Jimmer articles. Give it a rest already.

  • Undefeated Hyrum, UT
    Dec. 9, 2013 9:28 a.m.

    As a person Jimmer is a great man. As an NBA basketball player, no defense.

  • Rock Chalk Jayhawk 75 Kansas City, KS
    Dec. 9, 2013 7:55 a.m.

    Only in the Deseret News comments will you find Jimmer and star used in the same sentence.

    @poyman so are you saying if Lillard and Jimmer switched places, Jimmer would be the one with all of the success? Curious to know how you came to that conclusion.

    Also those 3 pt specialists you compared him to are all 6 foot 4 and taller. Jimmer is only 6 foot 2. Those two inches mean a lot in being able to get your own shot off and also in which position you will be responsible for defending, something that is not Jimmer's specialty.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Dec. 9, 2013 12:39 a.m.


    Fredette is far more than just a "Good outside shot Artist"... He can penetrate and dish with the best of them... He can get to the hoop and get to the rim well... He makes the opposing players guard him tight because they have to respect his jumper, which in turn gives his "Bigs" a chance to go one on one and not have to worry about Jummer's man sagging and double teaming or gumming up the paint...

    Fredette was a consensus First Team All American in college... Fredette won the Naismith Trophy representative of the best collegate basketball player in America... The Kings traded up to get him... He outdueled players with high marks currently playing in the league (i.e. our own Damian Lilliard who now stars for the Trailblazers)... The problem is that the Kings sacked Coach Westphal 2 games into the season after he was drafted and he has resided in NBA purgatory ever since...

    Given a chance Jimmer will be a star along the lines of J Linn... And even if he is "just" a good 3 pt jump shooter, Korver, Redick, and Novak have all made a great living as NBA 3pt specialists.

  • kaysvillecougar KAYSVILLE, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 11:48 p.m.

    Where do I start? Great, respectful post by ute alumni. Again I'm amazed at the hate Jimmer gets from some of our friendly Ute fans. He's a classy guy. He's never said anything negative about the U of U and believe me he's had a lot of opportunities. He's a positive guy, team player, loves the sport and is amazingly entertaining. Nobody, including Jimmer has any illusions he's going to be on an all star team, but man, he would be a great roll player for a decent coach like Popavich or Doc Rivers. Good luck Jimmer! Still love watching you do what you do. Wish we had more or a chance to see you. Free Jimmer!!!! By the way, he would be a terrible fit for the Jazz. Management would be dumb to bring him here. If he succeeds, he would still get booed by the majority of U fans. If he does poorly, many Jimmer or BYU fans would criticize Corbin for not playing him enough. No win situation if the Jazz signed him.

  • Still Blue after all these years Kaysville, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 8:04 p.m.

    I'm pretty sure Jimmer has played his last minute in the worst town in the NBA. The Kings will trade him, sometime between the middle of Dec and the trade deadline. He's never been given a chance by the pathetic Kings organization and they deserve the team they have. Without Favors and Marvin, they barely beat the bad Jazz.

  • oddman ,
    Dec. 8, 2013 7:43 p.m.

    re Brave Sir Robin

    Apparently you never watched Jimmer Fredette much. Yes, he has long range torching ability but there were numerous times he drove through traffic and underhanded a bucket while getting fouled in the process. Unfortunately the NBA is loaded with many self centered thugs who have made the game totally boring to watch. It would be a relief to see him land on a team who would give him minutes. He has produced whenever given the opportunity, college, or NBA. I can't help wondering where your evaluation credentials originated and why you haven't been hired as a NBA scout.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 6:28 p.m.

    I careless about nba today which they are mostly greedy people. I wonder how Jimmer brother TJ doing and hoping he is holding together fine. Hard to say which is better, nba or Europe. Europe might be better for now and hone your skill rather than go rotten. Yeah, what a lame not letting Jimmer play any minutes against the Jazz.

  • defibman Syracuse, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 6:14 p.m.

    Brave Sir Robin....try reading Uncle Rico's post. Go back and read many of the u fans comments when Jimmer played his college ball. Like many u fans, the hate BYU and anyone who plays for said school.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Dec. 8, 2013 6:05 p.m.

    Jimmer couldn't have lit in a worse place than Sacramento. He will work his way out of it in time.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Dec. 8, 2013 6:02 p.m.

    Uncle Rico -

    If Jimmer had lit me up for 32 in the first half and 47 for the game, like he lit you up, then I probably would be sore like you too. Oh, and if Jimmer hadn't sat out the final 6 minutes of that game, he would have easily made it to 55 or more. Congrats for being the first poster here.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Dec. 8, 2013 4:31 p.m.


    I don't know a single person who hates Jimmer. He was a great college player and conducts himself with class. The issue lies with Jimmer's fans; the ones who can't take off their blue goggles long enough to see that he's simply not NBA material, the ones who can't see that he's not the answer to the Jazz woes. You need to have more than a long-range jumper to play in the either need additional offensive weapons or you need to play good D. Jimmer has none of these skills.

  • rvalens2 Burley, ID
    Dec. 8, 2013 2:35 p.m.

    Here's one Utah fan who wishes Jimmer Fredette only good will and success. On the right NBA team, he could succeed; unfortunately, he's been stuck in the nether regions of the NBA called the Sacramento Kings.

    I'm also a Jazz fan and would have no problem if the Jazz pick him up. I just don't want them to give up too much to get him. Though, in reality, I doubt the Jazz will trade for him. Fredette will become a free agent at the end of the season, at that point, they can make him an offer and see if he's willing to return to the land of his college glory.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 1:55 p.m.

    The King's coach: "He (Jimmer) was the only Sacramento player to not check into the game Saturday." Why would you not put one last player (local and BYU) in the game when the rafters would have come off if for just a few minutes? Was it a deliberate slam against Utah?

    I agree with BlueHusky. Jimmer, go to Europe like Travis Hansen of BYU fame did after his stint with Atlanta. They will respect the great person that you are, cheer the incredible athlete that we know and remember, and you will earn the money you deserve. Thanks for continuing to be a great role model for our kids (actually all of us) even through your adversity.

    Game over: NBA, and spoilers!

  • Crow Sandy , UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 1:49 p.m.

    Bust much like arujo how long did he last?

  • ute alumni paradise, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 9:21 a.m.

    I love the posters that kow so much about the game and yet most likely have never played it, certainly not on the college level. What is there not to like about Jimmer? Given the chance to play on a real NBA team he will do great.

  • Little Andy Tremonton, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 9:14 a.m.

    Dec 15th comming up. That is when newly signed players can be traded. Jazz need to pick him up.

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Dec. 8, 2013 7:26 a.m.

    Jimmer, go to Europe. That game is more open and you'll do fine. Living in Europe for a few years is great and you'll make good money. The NBA isn't worth watching anyway. When NBA started becoming goon ball, I stopped watching.

  • Dukester VANCOUVER, WA
    Dec. 8, 2013 6:27 a.m.

    "Uncle Rico"...Your statement that Jimmer is one of the worst players in then NBA shows your lack of knowledge regarding all the players in the league. Do your homework!

  • DRay Roy, UT
    Dec. 8, 2013 5:35 a.m.

    Jimmer worked hard to get to the NBA, no one can take that from him, ever. College Player of the Year means just that, great college career. NBA is a different brand of ball, and maybe Jimmer's skill set isn't as geared for it. Hats off to a courageous young man.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Dec. 8, 2013 2:08 a.m.

    I find it boring and sometimes pathetic to see and even once in awhile read the utah trolls hateful comments on Fredette... Jimmer is the antithesis of what these parasites write...

    He is not only a great hoops player, but he is as classy of human being as you will find... His parents and his coaches deserve a huge pat on the back for helping to develop such a man... In fact we could all benefit by learning from them...

    I try to understand where the Haters come from and why they hate Fredette... But then I remember how badly he worked their team over on the court and for those who don't have the maturity to separate the skill from the rivalry I guess I cancan see where the "hate" comes from...

    I anticipate Haws will be the next Cougar hated by the Trolls beginning the evening of the 14th.

    Have no Doubts Hoop Fans, Fredette will land on a team next year that will use his talents and he will create a niche that will be revered thoughout the NBA over the next few years... He will twitch many of twine on NBA courts across America.

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    Dec. 7, 2013 11:24 p.m.

    Having read one book about Jimmer I have tons of respect for Jimmer the man he really is. He sure has his head on straight and values in proper focus. I totally admire the work ethic he has displayed in getting to the heights he attained at BYU. There is absolutely nothing of eternal value from the NFL, NBA, MBL, NHL, name it. Nonetheless, I wish him all the success in his career. He deserves the best.

  • slcjimmy SLC, UT
    Dec. 7, 2013 10:50 p.m.

    Jimmer...I hope somehow, someone you know will see this! Regardless in Sactown, youve made the entire Capitol District extremely proud. Keep your head up man! Regardless of what the haters will say! Continue being the class act you are.Trust that your time and proper team will come. Chris Anderson in Miami is a prime example! In closing. Go Foothills. Go Spartans (New York)

  • Uncle Rico Provo, UT
    Dec. 7, 2013 10:41 p.m.

    by sparse, you mean not at all.
    Too bad the Utah Flash don't exist anymore. Jimmer would be one of the most popular guys in D-League history, he'd get to play in Utah county.

    He is one of the worst NBA players on one of the worst NBA teams. It is openly known that the Kings are shopping him, but no one is interested.