@ CGThank you for that completely irrelevant reply, which had
nothing to do with my post.
2020When you finish with a better record and higher ranking in 6 of
the last 9 seasons, you have beaten them.
are they going to the Rose Bowl?
You can't refer to a team as, "little brother," if you can't
2BBreaking news: the bcs has absolutely NOTHING to do with major
college basketball, and after this season, won't have anything to do with
major college football.
"I'm new to these boards"Good one. Your screen name may
be new, but you've been on this article 3 times already and every other
Utes article for at least the past year.
2b"Wow a 4 star center awesome bro"It is awesome
if you're a BYU fan; not so much if you're a jealous little bro!2013 Recruiting ClassBYU - two 4-star (two ESPN100), three
3-starUtah - two 3-star, one 2-star2014 Recruiting ClassBYU - two 4-star (two ESPN100), two 3-star; one 2-starUtah - two 4-star
(one ESPN100), one 2-star
Football is over for the utes. Let's move on to basketball. I'm new
to these boards but I love the excuses that the utes make for scheduling the
softest schedule in almost all the nation. It is quite laughable really. When
you are ranked almost last in SOS and RPI you should not be beating your chest
about pac membership. The utes are in way over their heads and should consider
moving back the a conference where they can compete.
@killnary..."BYU added 7 new players this year including a 4-star
center"Wow a 4 star center awesome bro
@mussingaround..."I love how the only thing you can do to justify your
program is whine about BYU fans. Slap another PAC 12 sticker on something;
that'll show 'em."Slap another L to the cougies record
in football vs UtahYour screen name says it all love the jealousy
you have of the Utes!!
@Poyman..."For example, any team beating the Cougars this year will have a
"good win"... but I suspect that there won't be too many of
2ferYet even Sagarin has Utah ranked BELOW BYU:#28
BYU#33 UtahIn the BCS standings (which include all of the BCS
computer rankings):#39 BYU#56 Utah----------In college basketball RPI rankings, which this article is about:#9 BYU (#6 SOS)#137 Utah (#330 SOS)
These comments sound like a child's play ground fight, He hit me first, No,
he hit me first and on and on. Collegiate athletics is supposed to foster
sportsmanship and maturity. Thus far it's not working. Being gracious
winners and gracious losers among Utah schools needs a lot of work.
@ ThomasJeffersonSagarin, who has one of the most respected ranking
systems and is the most commonly cited on these boards, has Utah with the number
U 90Love the revisionist history of Utah fans. Utah dropped BYU to
schedule Michigan long before Dr. Hill knew that Utah's schedule would be
#1 in the country in 2013.NOTHING Utah did accounts for Utah's
SOS this year; it was simply the luck of the draw that Oregon and Stanford
replaced Washington and California on Utah's schedule.LOL at
your blast from the past basketball history lesson; unfortunately for U, the
program that Majerus built died almost a decade ago.7 in a row; 11
of the last 12; 12 of 15 during the Rose era. BYU now owns you in basketball.
@Duckhunter "utah "fans" you reap what you sew with the mocking. Go
back and read the comments from the BYU/iowa st game"Why would
anyone go back in time? We have plenty of state championships and there are
enough laughs from your comments on this story.
It was interesting to note that a team from the prestigious Pac-12 get beat by a
team from the prestigious MWC. Playing cupcake teams to get to 6 - 0 may not be
the best challenge when one gets to play a D1 school. Go, Broncos!
This rivalry has become ridiculous at times, so thank you WA Alum &
StGSLC...I'll take that challenge as well. Good luck utes.
@Thomas Jefferson "Utah has decided to take the low road. By that I mean
scheduling the weakest opponent possible in the major sports.... They have
padded their schedule with marshmallows." That must explain how
Utah ended up with the #1 SOS in football in 2013 and will probably be there
again in 2014 as they replace BYU with Michigan, Utah State with Fresno and
Weber with ISU. Do you really consider what you're saying before you
post?Basketball is a different story. Utah is clearly scheduling
cupcakes because they are trying to rebuild the program.... which is not a half
bad strategy given how bad the basketball team has been over the last 2-3 years.
WA_Alum&Dad, I'll promise you this: I too will wish no ill to
BYU's teams or any of their athletes. I'll refrain from excusing away
their successes and piling on to their losses. I won't openly and
intentionally provoke confrontation. But I won't turn a blind eye from the
classless drivel, name calling, and flat out lying that some special cases so
frequently try to pass off as civil dialogue, and I will point out
inconsistencies in arguments when I recognize them. Due to the fact that I may
follow a BYU article once or twice in every few weeks, while I typically read
most of the Utah articles, these will usually be ignorant anti-Utah posts. But I
am much happier talking about the games and sports themselves, so I hope to see
you around and have good convo! Take care, guy.
Now that Utah and BYU get a two-year break from each other in football, and in
basketball we Cougar fans have reason to expect none but the most delusional Ute
fans will be coming on to argue the supposed superiority of their basketball
team, perhaps that will help reduce the level of nonsense between fan bases.
One can hope. I admit I love seeing BYU haters get it dished back
to them as much as the next guy. But in the interest of seeing things improve
between fan bases, I am willing follow the recent example of a number of other
BYU commenters wishing the Ute sports teams no ill, and I will go for the rest
of the non-conference season not red-baiting. Any Ute fans publicly willing to
take that invite?
duckhunter,I said nothing about Utah being dominant or weak in 2013.
I was responding to the flurry of PAC12 sticker comments made by byu
"fans". Try to keep up.Regarding your assertion that Utah
is a perennial loser. The Utes are one of the most successful all-time programs
in college basketball... actually ranked #10 by SI a few years ago. But you
already new that. Below is a cut and paste from espnUTAHFinal Fours 4Tournament Record 35-30Championship Seasons 1944BYUFinal Fours 0Tournament Record 15-30Championship
@u90"Your team is in the West Coast Conference. It's not
like you are dealing from a position of strength where conferences affiliation
is concerned.... but you already knew that."And your team is a
perennial loser that hasn't had a winning season in several years.
It's not like you are dealing from a position of strength where quality of
program is concerned.....but you already new that
Slap a PAC12 sticker on your tricycles. Seriously? Your team is in
the West Coast Conference. It's not like you are dealing from a position
of strength where conferences affiliation is concerned.... but you already knew
@ kitsutsuki aka uteanymousNobody has blamed the officials for the
outcome of the game. That's not our MO; it's yours.As for
the "tricycle" smack. That's just weak, even for you.
I am neither a BYU fan or a Utah fan really but I enjoy following these threads,
Utah fans are in total denial as to how bad their team is really. They will
see the reality of how bad it is when they start to play half way decent teams
and on the road. They may be better than last year but that is not saying much.
There was nowhere to go but up. They are inexperienced and young and the
season will take its toll half way through. I predict 12-14 wins at best. They
will miss out on post-season play, again this year.BYU is a good
team that had really good talent that will get much better as the season goes
on. They have already proven that. When you can have 4 guards score in double
figures and run the other teams ragged it spells trouble for their opponents.
Mika is getting better every game and is tough to defend. I see them winning
somewhere in the 25 game range and making it to the NCAA tourney due to their
RPI and SOS. That stuff matters to the selection committee.
@Duckhunter "utah "fans" you reap what you sew with the mocking.
Go back and read the comments from the BYU/iowa st game"This is
code for "I do it because someone else did it first" A very redeeming
@ Balan "Yes, 20 years ago BYU had a 1-26 season but within a couple of
years they were back on top. BYU has never gone through a stretch like Utah is
experiencing now"Utah winning record 2009 - 2012 41%BYU
winning record 1996 - 1999 33%
Magna Ute FanIt's laughable that Utah fans swarm BYU articles
with degrading comments after every BYU loss, but whine when BYU fans respond
with much more subdued comments after a Utah loss.
Honest questions for BYU fans (not trying to start an argument, just genuinely
curious):Why do you care about the Utes' OOC? Seriously, what
impact does it have on the Cougars? My guess is none, but am I wrong? Do you
chide it simply to "silence" annoying Ute fans? If so, kind of a lost
cause, no? Annoying fans on both sides will be eternally vocal. If
(and I understand it's a big if) the Utes' beat the Cougars on Dec.
14th what will your take be on the weak OOC, then? Surely, there's no
plausible way Utah can beat BYU based on their OOC. If it happens, what will be
Pot meet kettle.
talkinsports-"...most BYU fans probably didn't watch the
Utah game because they were busy watching their own team..." Exactly. So why
bother coming here to post your mean spirited rants? Why do you bother coming
here to try to spin everything in some dark light? I know you're going to
tell me because Ute fans do the same to BYU articles. And two wrongs make a
Watched the 2nd half of the Utes after watching my Cougs dismantle UNT. This
was the first time I've seen the Utes play this year.Utes are
better than I expected after losing 4 of their top 6 most productive players
from last year.I said pre-season, they wouldn't reach .500, but
I'll adjust after what I saw:OOC = 10-2PAC = 6-12Overall = 16-14I still don't think there will be an NCAA or
NIT invite with the weak non-conference.
CrumJWhat does last year have to do with how good BYU, BSU, and Utah
are this year?BYU added 7 new players this year including a 4-star
center and a former MWC freshman of the year to a team that barely missed the
NCAA tournament last year.BYU has players that used to be starters
who are now riding the pine because BYU has gotten that much better.Current RPI#10 BYU#25 BSU#127 Utah
Wow - listen to all the excuses - we got homered by the refs, if the game had
been at home we would have won, Boise is better than BYU (implying Utah is
better than BYU?), etc. etc. etc.Your program is still is disarray
and will be until you prove otherwise - on the court.If it makes you
feel better, which I am sure it does, slap that PAC11.1+u sticker on your
tricycles and show your conference pride for the world to see!
Boise State is better than Byu, so I don't see why Byu fans feel they have
any room to talk. BSU went to the tourney last year, something Byu didn't
do, in a much tougher conference, and have EIGHT returning players from that
team including all five starters. They will be one of the top two or three teams
in the Mountain West, if not the top team, and will be in the NCAA tournament
come March. Who cares who they've played so far, a tourney team from last
year doesn't get worse by returning that many players.Utah was
noticeably hesitant especially early in this game, definitely had a case of the
road jitters. This comes back to the weak schedule, particularly the fact they
hadn't played any road games yet. Still, had this game been played at home,
Utah probably wins by 8.
Clearly Utah is improving, coach K is to be commended for that, but fans and
critics alike need to realize it's a long way up from the bottom of the
barrel. Enjoy the direction your team is headed, don't worry too much
about where you're currently at on the journey, and don't listen too
much to our comments from the cheap seats. Venting here help us to be civil to
our wives and kids and to not kick the dog.
Spokane UteSpokane, WAOkay, I'll admit, I'm only
reading the comments about the Utah game the same way I slow down and
rubber-neck as I pass a car wreck. Not proud of it, but there it is.Consciously, I am embarrassed by all the BYU fans piling on after the Utes
close loss to what may be a decent to good opponent.But just under
the surface, I'm here because I like to see fans best represented by Chris
B and Ernest T get their noses rubbed in it. However, I can appreciate that
many Utah fans are not all that different than me: trying to make good choices
but a little conflicted when it comes to my "rival."
Spokane Ute"Show us your nobody will take us sticker"You're forgetting, this is a basketball thread and BYU is in a
conference that embraces religiously-based institutions, rather than shunning
I was listening to the local sports guys on the radio in Boise before the game
yesterday. They predicted a BSU win based on the fact that "the Utes are
only undefeated because they haven't played anybody yet this year". I
suppose they hadn't looked at BSU's first six wins before they said
that. The two point slugfest we were treated to last night shows very little
about either team. Based on what I saw, both are relatively average teams that
I'd be surprised to see in the tournament in March.
Who's on who's thread? The screen name speaks volumes.
Not whinning, just telling the truth. Case in Point. Show us your nobody will
take us sticker, that's my favorite.
Magna Ute FanSorry, most BYU fans probably didn't watch the
Utah game because they were busy watching their own team tune up for another
game against a Top 25 opponent.As far as commentary about what
happened on the court, the score tells us all we need to know about the game -
the Utes lost to the only decent team they've played all season.
Bla, bla, bla, bla, bla..... Haters out in force today. Very little
commentary about what actually took place on the court. Embarrassing for your
school that claims to be above such behavior. I'm looking
forward to seeing how this team performs in their next two games. Go Utes!
Spokane UteI love how the only thing you can do to justify your
program is whine about BYU fans. Slap another PAC 12 sticker on something;
that'll show 'em.
I love how the BYU fans flock to Utah threads to try and jusfity the
significance of their program. Amussing, to say the least!
Ufan"2013-14 Final Projected Results for UtahOOC =
10-2PAC = 7-11 (8th)Overall = 17-13Slim chance of
pulling an upset versus BYU.2nd round exit in the PAC tournament.Possible NIT bid."Unfortunately, you're probably pretty
close on your predictions. Utah will undoubtedly win a few more
games overall with their abysmal pre-season schedule, but in the end, it's
just window dressing. Playing the likes of Evergreen State isn't going to
prepare the Utes for teams like Arizona, UCLA, and Oregon.With the
way the PAC schedule lays out, the Utes will probably get off to what appears to
be a fast 4-1 start with Oregon, OSU, @Washington, @WSU, and USC in their first
5 games.But, that will be fool's gold.Then the Utes
will tank when they start playing the better teams of the conference.Utah could very easily finish on a 6-game losing streak, losing 10 of their
last 13 from mid-January to the end of the regular season.The
euphoria of being 14-3, 4-1, and hopes of maybe even playing in the big dance,
will quickly fade as the losses start mounting up.
Re: WA Alum etc. "Funny, hearing Ute fans whine about one-way
officiating."Who are the Ute fans complaining about the
officiating.? The flagrant 2 call was bad and anyone that knows BB understands
that. The only ones I saw mentioning the refs was the author of the article and
numerous BYU commenters.
SoonerUteLOL at your crimson-colored hyperbole.BYU
didn't need to join the WCC in order to get better; BYU has been much
better than the Utes for most of the last decade, including when both teams were
still in the MWC.So slap another PAC 12 sticker on your tricycle, if
it helps you sleep at night, but that still won't change the fact that the
Utes are still only the distant third best program in the state:Current RPI Rankings10 Brigham Young32 Utah State127 Utah199 Weber State
I have to give the utes some props here. They only lost by 2 points on the road
to an average team. I do worry that they may have seen their best wins of the
year early on laying the worst teams in the country.I also give props to
BYU for scheduling the 6th toughest schedule in the country and only losing two
games to top 25 teams,BYU is on the way up and should challenge for their
conference title and Utah will struggle once they hit conference play and end
somewhere about where the football team finished.
Crow"Utah will be able to run and gun with BYU. They have more
athletic guards and their front court is significantly better then
BYU's."Only in our dreams.
CrowDon't kid yourself.The Utes have been a
smoldering train wreck for most of the last decade.Since Bogut and
the last remnants of the Majerus era left after 2004-05:BYU
216-68(76%) 8 20+ win seasons, 6 NCAAs, 2 NITs, 4 conf champsUtah
122-138(47%) 1 20+ win season, 6 losing seasons, 1 NCAA, 1 conf champThe ONLY reason Utah's overall record has improved dramatically over the
last two seasons is because the Utes decided to pad their win totals with OOC
cupcakes. Compare Utah's OOC schedules the last two years, with
the following, BYU's OOC schedule the year after their 1-25 season:OregonUtah StatePenn StateBoise StateWashingtonWeber StatePepperdineCaliforniaHawaiiVirginiaOhio StateFrankly, if I was a Utah fan, I'd be
embarrassed by the cowardly approach Utah has adopted to "rebuild" their
Funny, hearing Ute fans whine about one-way officiating. This from a conference
notorious for homer officials.Can't have it both ways, kids!
"BYU has never gone through a stretch like Utah is experiencing now."If the answer for Utah's struggle is "move to the WCC and battle for
3rd place", um... thanks, but no thanks.
Yes, 20 years ago BYU had a 1-26 season but within a couple of years they were
back on top (trust a Ute to flip back in the record books almost 20 years to try
and make a point). So tell me, how many years has Utah been getting
pounded and when are they actually going to prove, by winning on the court, that
they are actually back? BYU has never gone through a stretch like
Utah is experiencing now.
@ CWEB the Utes had fallen but are on the up swing, and they have never had a
1-26 season like one in state program I know. Utah will be able to
run and gun with BYU. They have more athletic guards and their front court is
significantly better then BYU's. It will be a great game when
the two meet up.
Very entertaining game. Still way too early to make any assessment of the team.
I don't think the officiating was poor. It was average. But, I feel for
the refs and players having to adjust to the emphasis on eliminating
hand-checking. While I think the emphasis is appropriate, it makes for an
uglier game in the immediate future (too many fouls, too many free throws).
@2ferI didn't say they would have lost to boise by 25 points, I
said they would have lost that game by 25 points. They wouldn't have been
able to hang in a game played that way previously. They are better this year so
they are able to play better in a more up tempo game. No that game was not
lights out run and gun but it was a huge step up from the style of play utah has
employed the last couple of years and utah was able to hang in playing a faster
tempo.That is a compliment by the way, not a put down.
Tough loss but I think the Utes learn a lot from this and benefit for the rest
of the season. Lets get some good practices in and come ready for Fresno on
Saturday. I'll be bringing my little boy to his first ever Utah came and
couldn't be more excited. Good luck this weekGo Utes!!!
It's gonna be a long season for the Utes. They likely aren't good
enough to make any post season tournaments. One good recruit and a couple of
average ones each year is not bringing enough talent into the program to
compete.Good luck to them though. Maybe some players will step up, but
they don't look very good yet.
The notion that the close loss was a direct result of prior scheduling is
conjecture. Even very good teams (and no, I'm not saying Utah is in that
category for the trolls that would extrapolate that to jump all over) make
costly mistakes in tight games from time to time. Chris Weber was the most
dominant college player I've ever seen, but his entire college career is
overshadowed by one mental error.The non-conference schedule is what
it is. It's been harped on every hour on the hour since September by folks
like "Down fishin buster seriously whatever other names he/she comes up
with" and in itself doesn't provide the fans a lot of excitement, but I
understand it this year so I'm not upset about. Next year I will be openly
displeased with something similar. With Wright and Loveridge adding the strength
and power of Chapman and the finesse of Kuzma, the team should be experienced at
the top and skilled and deep trickling down, and deserve better competition and
notoriety than they get from their slate this year.
I'm not a big Utah fan, but do believe they did better than a lot of people
expected them to do against Boise, who is definitely a decent team. And playing
on the road against Boise is never easy. This game was close and winnable for
the Utes.The Utes are definitely better than last year and will
probably surprise some people in some games this season. Opponents would be wise
to not take them too lightly.
@ Duckhunter and plyxplyUtah played Boise St. last year and won
If any teams contending for a spot in the 68 team NCAA Tourney Bracket lose to
the utes during the course of the season it will be considered "a bad
loss" and count against them and negate what the selection committee calls a
"good win"...For example, any team beating the Cougars this
year will have a "good win"... but I suspect that there won't be
too many of those.
Oh, beloved Utes, how you have fallen. I have lost no sleep. I have not turned
on a game. I've not rushed out to purchase RED clothing. I do not wake in
the morning excited to read the headlines. I do not commit money to the
program.Because, our team is a real team...go Cougs!
I am not sure what to make of this game. I think Utah is better than I thought
and Boise not as good. I had not seen them play until last night. Utah did
some things well. It will be an interesting game byu/Utah. I think Utah will
try to slow the tempo, if they can keep the score low like last nights game,
they have a real shot, but if the game is up tempo, I think byu will win easily.
That is easier said than done though.
StGtoSLCCoach small k won't even try to run with BYU because he
knows his "runnin' Utes" would get run off the court. If
you're only capable of running in spurts, then you're really not a
2013-14 Final Projected Results for UtahOOC = 10-2PAC = 7-11
(8th)Overall = 17-13Slim chance of pulling an upset versus
BYU.2nd round exit in the PAC tournament.Possible NIT bid.
Utah had every chance to win this game, and they just couldn't close the
deal. All excuses aside (like bad calls, and misses from the foul line etc) they
had the lead with a minute to go and let the game slip out of their hands. I
think not having Princeton was painful especially since the Utes were able to
get some momentum and score 42 points in the second half, even without him.
Boise State isn't traditionally a good basketball team, but they have all 5
returning starters from a team that had 20 wins and a tourney invite last year.
utah "fans" you reap what you sew with the mocking. Go back and read the
comments from the BYU/iowa st game.That said I watched quite a bit
of this game last night and here is my honest assessment.utah is
better. They would have lost that game by at least 25 points the last 2 years.
Wright is going to be very good, I honestly don't know why much
better programs than utah didn't pursue him, kudo's to utah for
getting him.Loveridge is limited, he is a good player but I
don't think he'll ever be a star. He can be a very good #2 player but
if they are banking on him to be their top dog they will never advance beyond
ok.The terrible schedule they have played has been a disservice to
them. The manner in which they floundered around the last few minutes, lost
their lead, and then choked away a bunch of possessions is a direct result of
playing bad teams and being unchallenged. They might have won that game if they
had played a couple of other decent teams already even if they had lost to them.
I agree with Cougsndawgs. Utah is much improved and will be pretty good. BYU this is pretty classless mocking a team that lost by 2.Same to the
Ute fans who mocked BYU for losing by 2 to Iowa State.
To my fellow BYU fans: beating the utes this year is going to be tougher than a
lot of you think. Utah is a lot better this year, SOS and RPI aside, they have
good players in Wright and Loverage that can flat out ball. BYU and Utah seem to
be suffering from some of the mistakes you see in young teams...especially poor
FT shooting. Utah cleans up some mistakes and shoots 70% from the line and they
win this game. I watched BSU play Idaho last week because I was in Boise for
thanksgiving. BSU doesn't look as good this year, but Utah looks much
better. I think there's good reason for ute fans to be optimistic about
The good:-Adjustments at half time -Wright's
rebounding-Bachynski continues to be really aggressive-Loveridge in
the 2nd halfThe bad:-Losing-First half shooting-Team rebounding-FREE THROWS, KAAAAAAAHHHHHNNNN!!!!-1st half
defense on #2 (I think Marks was his name)
The great thing about being a Ute is that we are able to rely on your PAC 12
affiliation to help grow our program. Last year Boise would've blown the
Utes right off the court, this year they are in the game til the end almost. I
will fly my pac 12 flag proudly and display multiple stickers announcing to all
that I am better than you because I am in the pac 12. Winning and losing no
longer matter, we pac 12 fans have already won.
I was beginning to think that Utah was going to go undefeated this year!
I was at the game and agree that the officiating was bad. Loverage went to the
line several times on phantom fouls and if Marks hadn't sat for a bad call
on a charge early in the second half the broncos would have won by 15.
The "fan" now resorting to not only disparaging Utah's players, but
now every player of every team on Utah's schedule. That's at least the
one predictable event to occur this year. "utsies?" What are we, 5?
Pre game the Utes had the 351st strongest schedule in the country, out of 351
teams. Boise State? 349th.
Utah will not lose another non-conference regular season road game the rest of
the year. Call me bold, but mark it down!In all seriousness, Boise
State is a very good top 50 program. For the Utes to go in and challenge them
shows the weak scheduling has paid off in confidence. We will see if the Utes
can make it to the NCAA's this year, but they should at least make some
post season tournament. Good job Utes!
Great game and a great watch. Very winnable, but poor decisions down the stretch
and free throw shooting killed the Utes. Utah looks better than last year;
Jordan Loveridge can Hoop!
We should have won because we are in a prestegous conference and that makes us
more prestegous than boise but the refs forgot about that and gave the game to
boise and thats not fair.Go Utes!
Rebounding and stopping dribble penetration are areas the Utes must improve if
they are to improve. Fun game to watch.
Sounds like couch k is borrowing some one liners from Whit in describing the
loss I guess we will see a lot of this all season long as the utes now stare at
a real schedule coming at them in a few weeks. I hope they can reach their
10-12 wins before they have start playing real teams because I don't see
many more n the horizon. Can't wait for the Cougs to hit town.
Great Free Throw shooting...lol.It's a little different playing
on a court other than the HC isn't it??? And then when you throw in seats
that actually have people sitting in them it can get a little intimidating
can't it?Poor preseason scheduling, poor preparation,
predictable results... Prior to the game the utes had a 166 RPI to
"snag" 11th out of 12 teams in the big bad pac12. And, a 347 SOS (only 4
teams in all of America College Teams had an lighter schedule)... Only
Washington at 205 is worse... Not much of a power statement, but then the big
bad pac12 only has one team in the RPI top 25 and that is Arizona at 14... The
weakling WCC has just three teams in the RPI top 25 (Gonzaga at 23; St. Marys at
16; oh, and BYU at 9).And so "the predictable routine collapse
of the ute's Basketball Program begins again utes begins again this
season... I feel sorry for Loveridge, he could have been a Cougar... Oh well...
"Coming into the game, Boise State ranked 31st in the AP poll, in the
“others receiving votes“ category and 32nd in the coaches
poll"With Boise State having the 344th most difficult schedule
(out of 351, from KenPom) it is difficult to tell if they should be getting any
votes in either poll. KenPom shows them at 63rd, I guess time will tell.Too bad the Utes couldn't pull this one out, this was one of the
better nonconference teams on their schedule.
OH my UTE fans, how can a PAC 12 team lose to a lowly Mountain West team?Isn't that what you always say Ute fans?I mean Boise State had no
business being on the same level as the Utes. I mean didn't the Utes and
the Y make the MWC what it is today?Got news for you Utes, San Diego
State, New Mexico, would kick your butt. USU would in Logan and maybe even SLC.
So good luck Utes playing the Sister-Sisters of the Poor. That is only where
you will get your wins AGAIN!
A lot of complaining about the refs tonight. I see how this season is going to
play out. The utes will wins against div. II and NAIA (high school)teams and
lose to Div. I teams. Unfortunately the utes will eventually have to
start to play decent team and on the road, and when that happens so long to a
winning record. I see the utes getting to about 12 wins this year.
Now we can start counting the moral victories in basketball since football is
over. So far we have thew following:Utah 6 - high schools 0Division 1 teams 1 - utes 0I can see that this will be a season of
blaming it on the refs.I agree with Troy town about running the
court. 67 points is NOT running the court. If you want to see running wait
until BYU comes to town and lay big numbers on the utsies. Of course there is
always the strategy the used last year with holding the ball until the last 5
seconds of the clock. The runnin' utes will not have the legs to run with
TroyTown, curious if you watched the game. Did I say they did the entire game,
or that neither team made adjustments against it throughout the game? 3-point
shooting is a big part of both teams' transition offense, and neither team
was shooting very well tonight. Final score alone doesn't tell the story of
what happened in a game.
utah played a decent game although their inexperience of playing any sort of
tough opponent was obvious at the end as they choked on multiple possessions.
But who knows if boise is any good either as they haven't played anyone so
there is no way to know. SOS is everything according to utah "fans" and
these two teams SOS is embarrassingly low.
"Both these teams can run the court..."Seriously, with a
final score of 69-67, lowest scoring game of the season for both teams?
That was some unfortunate scheduling want Westminster college available?
Free throws were so frustrating. Shoot 72% (the team's average) and win by
one or two possessions. Very fun game to watch, though. Both these teams can run
the court, and Boise should challenge USU, CSU and SDSU in the MWC. The play I
consider that lost the game was Wright driving 1-on-4 and trapped himself in the
corner with no timeouts. Good to see the team respond in the second half, hope
to see them build off it against Fresno on Friday!The one gripe I
have: with these new foul interpretations, touch fouls in the last minute
deserve to be called just as much as touch fouls in the first 39. Jordan
wouldn't have tried the shot at the buzzer the way he did if he hadn't
drawn contact on it.
Didn't affect the game overall, but that was quite a stretch to call
Onwas' foul a flagrant 2. That, and the change to the hand check rule this
year... what is happening to basketball? Maybe next year they'll have the
players suit up in bubble wrap.
Utes fought hard but the youthful mistakes were very apparent towards the end of
the game.The Onwas ejection was unbelievable in my view. It's
unfortunate that the refs took a game away from that young man. There is a
difference between a malicious flagrant foul, and a basketball play. There was
nothing malicious about the play and I feel sorry for Onwas.The team
looked great a times, sloppy at others. You can't win close games when
missing so many free throws. That needs to improve. Still extremely
excited for the rest of the season. GO UTES!!!