This was a good win. A great win is in the Big Dance.I'm
impressed with this team and love the return of Phi Slamma Jamma. I love the new
rules. I hated seeing a quick guard penetrate and get pounded. So much so that I
stopped watching college and pro hoops. Now we're seeing basketball as it
should be played. At last shooting is being rewarded.
I am not liking the NBA style checking, blocking, slashing, pushing and charging
that has crept into the college game over the last 4-5 years. Sure, there's
always been some teams who try (and some who succeed) at being OVERLY physical
during play, but usually the refs end up shutting that kind of play down.However, last night and even more so against Iowa State, the refs let
the crud fly, so that when BYU, a very good inside team, gets the ball down low,
they are pushed and hacked and generally taken out of their rhythm without any
fouls being called.What the Cougs need to do to overcome this is to
play inside out, instead of always trying to put it up in double and triple
teams down low. Kick the ball out to the open guy and kill the opponents with
No matter who byu plays and wins it will never be acknowledged by utah fans.
They can only focus on their pacthethic non-conference schedule.
Texas being rated low in their conf. was a preseason ranking and not necessarily
how things will end up, so saying Texas is not a good opponent because of their
preseason ranking isn't accurate, we'll have to wait and see how they
end up. The same could be said of Stanford , both of those wins are good wins
how good we'll have to wait and see. This team is fun to watch and in
college ball having a good guard line is a big positive and BYU has that , that
being said, BYU should be able to compete with most teams they play, especially
if they can shoot a decent percentage. Mika is looking good and should get
better as the season goes along.
Beating Stanford - nice winLosing to Iowa State - better than losing to
Portland StateBeating Texas - good winIf win tonight to WSU - big
winIf win against Oregon - good winGoing to win against "U"
- really good win for us than themIf we had Duke this year and win -
Fantastic Win and Parker will say: "Well I can't complained"Iowa State stole the win over us and we beat Texas for pay back to
big12!Is that better?
Interesting Comment from other person who said? "That Texas doesn't
want to see anymore BYU players with the initials T.H. for awhile. Taysom Hill runs all over the Longhorns and Tyler Haws puts them away with
buzzer beating runners. Sorry Texas... don't hate on the
Cougars" Good one lol!
"Later on I did try to bring byu fans back to reality, which I'll
attempt to do again, but a new rule by the Des News moderators seems to be
"only say positive things about byu." As "punishment" it appears
they deleted my first comment."Welcome to Iran, Chris. Anyways, at Stanford is a pretty good win as is beating Texas. Texas
has been down for a few years but, with the frontline they've got now they
should be better. But, you're right, these aren't at Kansas.I do think BYU has a reasonable shot tonight. Ridley and Ibeh are both much
bigger than anyone Wichita St. has and offensive rebounds are what kept the
Horns in the game. I'm not saying I expect them to win but, a win would
not be shocking (ha ha).
YGradDadUtah won't finish 11th or 12th in the PAC; WSU, Oregon
St, Washington and USC are horrible; for starters.
@Chris B"I will remind byu fans that Texas was picked to be 8th(of 10)
in the big 12 this year. So its a decent win, and we can even use the word
"good" win if we're being generous, as I was. But its definitely
not a "great" win. No great team or their fans beat their chest about
beating a team in the bottom 25% of their conference."===========Translation:Not a big deal when BYU beats Utah this year...
Agreed if BYU beats Wichita State then it is a great win.I cheer for the
Cougs but I think this is highly unlikely, Wichita State is one of the best
shooting teams in the nation and BYU's Defense is abysmal. Good luck and I
hope the Cougs pull it off.
Chrissy, considering that Utah will probably be in the 11th or 12th spot in the
PAC 10.2, if they beat the number 10 team, most people will call it a "great
Yes Chris you are correct. This is a good win but not great for BYU. Great would
be beating Witchita State tonight. Hopefully the utes can get up for Everglades
Holy Trinity Tech or whoever they play. Really disappointed in Crisco's
schedule this year. C'mon utes at least play all div 1 schools if
you're going to line up patsies all non con.
I'll add that IF byu could beat Wichita, that would be a "great"
win, providing that Wichita goes on to have a good season as they are expected
to do. So far, beating the #6 Pac 12 team and #8(of 10) Big 12
teams hardly are "great" wins.
It was a good win, but man they really need to work on their interior D.@FaridNo Mika does not look as good as Davies did last year.
Davies actually played some good D which Mika will learn in time. He is way
out of position sometimes. But he's doing pretty well for a freshman.
Using my DVR I counted many times the Texas bigs were in the key much longer
than 3 seconds. The one call I caught was after the guy was in the key for 5
seconds!BYU still needs to get away from the 1 on 5 habit they get
into. Example this time was Collinsworth in the final two minutes getting up in
the air after going 1 on 5 and then throwing it away.
Tators,Like Wiscougar said, my exact comment was "Good win byu,
I can admit it"Later on I did try to bring byu fans back to
reality, which I'll attempt to do again, but a new rule by the Des News
moderators seems to be "only say positive things about byu." As
"punishment" it appears they deleted my first comment.I will
remind byu fans that Texas was picked to be 8th(of 10) in the big 12 this year.
So its a decent win, and we can even use the word "good" win if
we're being generous, as I was. But its definitely not a "great"
win. No great team or their fans beat their chest about beating a team in the
bottom 25% of their conference.Just curious what your guys
qualifications are for a "great win".If Utah beats the 10th
best team in the Pac 12, are you guys going to call it a "great win"Or is it only when a WCC team can beat such a team that it is a great
BYU is looking solid. Not surprising. Should be a top 25 team here soon. Good
job on representing the state well! Hopefully my Utes can follow suit.
Carlino deserve much more credit that he gets. He kept BYU in this game at the
beginning as much, if not more than Haws did at the end. His rap of being out
of control and taking bad shots is overblown. The BYU fans need to see his
talent and ability.A great win, yes, but I wish BYU could somehow
become much tougher, more physical and less worried about referee calls. Can
somebody grab Nate, the flopper, Austin and just tell him to stay on his feet
and play the game. Wow. C'mon BYU. One thing they should have learned
from that ISU game was the need to be physical, toughen up, and be the
aggressors.And can the BYU fan base just get over the whole referee
thing. I thought this game was officiated quite well, but even if it
wasn't, the BYU fans just need to stop complaining. Play the game, stop
flopping, stop whining, be tough, and hopefully the fans will realize that other
teams have athletes too that also make plays and that it is not always about the
refs.Great win Cougs! By physical and take it to the Shockers!
Good win, anyway you slice it. If a team ends up on the bubble, wins like this
can only help a resume. After watching both Gonzaga and BYU play last night,
Gonzaga winning the WCC is far from a given this year. No depth in side for the
Zags, played horrible in the 2nd half vs. Dayton. Congrats to BYU.
In a poorly officiated game, the Cougars never quit, they never gave up, they
made me proud. I think we know that the officials will never call things the
same at both ends, but we kept our composure and ran Texas until they were very
tired. Bartley is going to be a star if things continue as they are presently.
RE: TatorsChris B. did have a post last night congratulating BYU on
the win. Don't know why it was pulled.
Pretty cool being on national tv...again. Clearly, rebounding free throws are
the key to this team's success. In the games we struggle, those two stats
are low. Let's turn some heads tonight boys. Go cougs!
What a great year to be Coug in Texas! Hats off to the whole Basketball team
last night. This was one of those wins that I think the entire organization had
to do their share. With Haws having trouble in the first half, Carlino and the
rest of the team did what they had to do. The coaches made some great
adjustments to match BYU strengths to TEX weakness (not to mention some eyebrow
raising officiating). I kept waiting for Coach Rose to go after the officials,
but he would just tweak what the team was doing to work with what the officials
gave him. That must be why he's coaching and I'm watching on TV. Great
job Cougs!I love the passion that both teams played with. You could
tell this game meant something to both teams. You just don't see that in
the NBA anymore, except for the odd fan who still thinks the NBA players care
about anything but themselves.
Great win Cougars! Big game coming up. Bring it on. Do your best. And please
make your free throws. I promise it will help.
BYU basketball is the most entertaining game in town. It is great to see them
playing some real competition and it is great to hear the loud fan base wherever
they play in the country. Great things are happening in Provo! This is a team
and a program headed in the right direction. I was just looking at the recruits
coming in and this team is going to be good for a long time. Congrats to coach
Rose and the staff for building a program.Great time to be a Cougar
We Got It Done.
Aggie84"Can anyone tell me why the game isn't being played
in the Spectrum this year?"BYU and Utah State agreed to a
home-home-neutral head-to-head going forward.
Lots of Positives tonight:Rose showed why he is an elite Division I
coach.Carlino kept us in the game in the first half and deserves far
more love than he is getting. He is our sparkplug and game changer... He's
quick and he pushes the tempo... A high risk, high reward player... Sometimes
out of control? Yeah, but Rose has an effective handle on him... He knows when
to turn him loose and when to calm him down... The speed of the game slows
considerably when he is on the bench.Collinsworth is the glue that
holds the team together... Much better this year than his Freshman year... Mr.
Versatility.By far Tyler's best game this year... He's
always in control... He knows the team relies on him in crunch time and he
methodically steps up and handles it.Our Bigs are much more
effective this year than last and we definitely have a legitimate back to the
basket Offensive threat in Mika. I'm also liking Austin this year... Still
need more "O" from him though... Our real problem is that we only have
three of them and only 2 can play...Where's Sharp?
The defense stepped up the last 8 minutes and I think that was a big difference
in the game.Coach Rose went to a 1-3-1 and it helped to keep the big guy from
getting it inside and made Texas shoot from outside - Haws is Amazing !!
The game on Saturday is in the ESA so that fans for both schools can enjoy the
new video boards for collegiate event prices. Does this answer your question?
Aggie84 - The agreement between Utah State and BYU has them playing 2 years at
the Spectrum, 2 years at the Marriott (alternating, not in a row), and the 5th
year at a neutral location. Last time they met at Energy Solutions was the
2008-2009 season, so it's just that time again.
I'd rather watch the BYU Men's Basketball team than any pro team,
including the Jazz...the fluidity of the game, the passion they play with is
unmatched in a regular season NBA game...hats off to the tremendous effort, the
tenacity of the Cougars. Not being in the top 30 of any of the polls, I believe
they are underrated, and way more fun to watch than the Duke Blue Devils.
Should be an interesting game Saturday night. Can anyone tell me why the game
isn't being played in the Spectrum this year?
This game belongs to coach Rose and his staff. The adjustments he made going
into the second half (collapsing on the bigs) made the difference... that and
Tyler-I-can-make-anything-Haws. This was a quality win against a quality
opponent. The strong out of conference schedule is paying off. If BYU puts up
a decent showing in the WCC--combined now with wins at Stanford and at Big 12
officiating--they should be dancing come March. Go Cougs!
Carlino was most impressive the first ten minutes, but Haws stole the show with
his performance the final ten minutes. I've seen Tyler put up some good
numbers, but nothing as impressive as the final ten minutes of this game.
Wow!I was just about ready to concede victory, and then out of
nowhere Tyler knocks down two huge 3 pointers! And his fake pass and layup on
the gigantic Ridley was priceless. I didn't stay up to watch ESPN plays of
the day, but that should be one.Great win against a very good Texas
Pretty soon Texas isn't going to like us.Great win, Cougars!!
Can't tell yet if this is a special team or a good one. A few thoughts:1--Does anyone else think Mika looks as good as a freshman as Davies did
as a senior? Davies as frosh: 5.4 ppg, 3.0 reb, .539 shooting pct. ---
as senior: 17.7/8.0, .522 Mika this year: 14.1 ppg, 5.3 reb, .614
shooting pct. 2--Frank IV is going to be one of BYU's best guards in
time3--Kyle Collingsworth never stands out during the game but his stats
do afterwards. He's at 13.4 ppg and 7.1 rebounds for the seasonWho is going to take over at center when Mika goes on his mission? Do
the Cougars have someone coming back? I can't remember ....
Great zone defense, but, man, the Cougs have to start ~looking~ for people to
block out once the shot goes up. All of the offensive boards kept Texas in the
game and nearly won it for them. Nice job by Haws to knock down the shots (and
the free throws) BYU needed at the end. It still doesn't make sense to me
to call touch fouls on the perimeter if you're going to allow virtual
muggings in the lane.
Really nice team win for BYU with 4 in double figures. Words are inadequate in
describing Haws. Texas' offensive rebounding was impressive, but
fortunately, when you hit 10/12 threes, you don't have to rebound on the
Ouch! Victories over the Longhorns in both FB and BB. I guess we're not
that anxious to get an invitation to the Big 12. Just kidding. Another great win. The aggressive style is entertaining. A lack of size will
make it tough to rebound well which is the key to being able to run, but I
applaud the constant desire to push the tempo.
It's those final minutes which defines a team.Good luck
Now, that's what I'm talking about. Shooting 82% for the arc! I am
surprised this game was that close. Carlino played the game we all knew he was
capable of. He didn't press, took good shots, and played very unselfishly.
He was great! Haws was clutch in the finish, carrying the team to the buzzer.
Foul shooting was much, much improved, though Bartley still needs to spend more
practice time on the foul line. 20 total assists for BYU! That kind of
unselfish BYU basketball is what I've been waiting for. Best performance
this year. Well done Cougars!
I was worried of another BYU player getting poked in the eye causing another
loss. Lighting didn't strike twice.Texas has strength under the
basket and is a good team.Great college game.
Biggest difference in between this game and the Iowa St game: FREE THROWS!20/28 for 71.4% tonight vs 12/20 for 60% against Iowa St.Of
course, hitting 10/12 threes certainly was a big thing, too. They shout lights
out from behind the arc and hit a more acceptable percentage of their free
throws.The reason I think they shot better from behind the arc? The
shots weren't forced. A lot of the 3's came off passes (catch and
shoot) rather than somebody just throwing one up.
This game was really a match between two different types of teams. Texas showed
that BYU is very vulnerable on the boards. . . .but that's been the case
for a long time. I continue to be puzzled about the poor foul shooting. The
defense of the three ball was improved.I think the Cougars
definitely stole one tonight. Bartley played a great game and was a key
contributor. Worthington continues to look lost out there.Mika and
Collinsworth were warriors and Carlino was amazing to start the game. Haws
proved to be clutch down the stretch after a horrid first half.Give
Rose and the team credit for pulling out a win.
This was a nail biter! So exciting to see the Cougars play hard through the
whole game and come through with a huge win. Also, it was great to see Eric Mika
out there battling considering what he went through with the personal attack to
his eye by an ejected Iowa State player last week. We love this basketball
Prince Ibeh certainly benefited from the "Shaq" rules; which are,
"since I'm big I can push people around and get away with it." I
couldn't believe some of the "fouls" that were called in his favor
(such as him knocking Austin to the floor with his body, but Austin getting
called for a block. Should have been a no call, IMO, but if you are going to
call a foul that's definitely on the offensive player.) He was a beast on
the boards, though. BYU had no answer for him. They really had to shoot well
to come away with the win on this one. Credit Haws for really stepping up after
a tough first half.Carlino should really study Haws' play and
learn from it. The biggest thing Haws does is square his shoulders on every
shot. Even on that running jumper with the shot clock running down near the
end, he got his shoulders square to the basket. Carlino is rarely facing the
basket when he tries stuff like that, which is why he usually misses.
Not gonna lie, i was sweating this one big time, especially with half of the
team with 3 or 4 fouls. Great win!
Cougars beat Texas 86-82. "Mr.Clutch" Tyler Haws knocks down the free
throws to seal the win. Next up winner of Wichita St/Depaul. Great quality win