BYU basketball: Tyler Haws leads BYU past Texas, as Cougars set to next face No. 12 Wichita State

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  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Nov. 26, 2013 3:07 p.m.

    This was a good win. A great win is in the Big Dance.

    I'm impressed with this team and love the return of Phi Slamma Jamma. I love the new rules. I hated seeing a quick guard penetrate and get pounded. So much so that I stopped watching college and pro hoops. Now we're seeing basketball as it should be played. At last shooting is being rewarded.

  • portlander Arlington, WA
    Nov. 26, 2013 3:03 p.m.

    I am not liking the NBA style checking, blocking, slashing, pushing and charging that has crept into the college game over the last 4-5 years. Sure, there's always been some teams who try (and some who succeed) at being OVERLY physical during play, but usually the refs end up shutting that kind of play down.

    However, last night and even more so against Iowa State, the refs let the crud fly, so that when BYU, a very good inside team, gets the ball down low, they are pushed and hacked and generally taken out of their rhythm without any fouls being called.

    What the Cougs need to do to overcome this is to play inside out, instead of always trying to put it up in double and triple teams down low. Kick the ball out to the open guy and kill the opponents with open shots.

  • The Anti Chris Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 26, 2013 11:44 a.m.

    No matter who byu plays and wins it will never be acknowledged by utah fans. They can only focus on their pacthethic non-conference schedule.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Nov. 26, 2013 11:23 a.m.

    Texas being rated low in their conf. was a preseason ranking and not necessarily how things will end up, so saying Texas is not a good opponent because of their preseason ranking isn't accurate, we'll have to wait and see how they end up. The same could be said of Stanford , both of those wins are good wins how good we'll have to wait and see. This team is fun to watch and in college ball having a good guard line is a big positive and BYU has that , that being said, BYU should be able to compete with most teams they play, especially if they can shoot a decent percentage. Mika is looking good and should get better as the season goes along.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Nov. 26, 2013 11:02 a.m.

    Beating Stanford - nice win
    Losing to Iowa State - better than losing to Portland State
    Beating Texas - good win
    If win tonight to WSU - big win
    If win against Oregon - good win
    Going to win against "U" - really good win for us than them
    If we had Duke this year and win - Fantastic Win and Parker will say: "Well I can't complained"

    Iowa State stole the win over us and we beat Texas for pay back to big12!

    Is that better?

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Nov. 26, 2013 10:55 a.m.

    Interesting Comment from other person who said? "That Texas doesn't want to see anymore BYU players with the initials T.H. for awhile.

    Taysom Hill runs all over the Longhorns and Tyler Haws puts them away with buzzer beating runners.

    Sorry Texas... don't hate on the Cougars" Good one lol!

    Nov. 26, 2013 9:55 a.m.

    "Later on I did try to bring byu fans back to reality, which I'll attempt to do again, but a new rule by the Des News moderators seems to be "only say positive things about byu." As "punishment" it appears they deleted my first comment."

    Welcome to Iran, Chris.

    Anyways, at Stanford is a pretty good win as is beating Texas. Texas has been down for a few years but, with the frontline they've got now they should be better. But, you're right, these aren't at Kansas.

    I do think BYU has a reasonable shot tonight. Ridley and Ibeh are both much bigger than anyone Wichita St. has and offensive rebounds are what kept the Horns in the game. I'm not saying I expect them to win but, a win would not be shocking (ha ha).

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Nov. 26, 2013 9:52 a.m.


    Utah won't finish 11th or 12th in the PAC; WSU, Oregon St, Washington and USC are horrible; for starters.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Nov. 26, 2013 9:44 a.m.

    @Chris B
    "I will remind byu fans that Texas was picked to be 8th(of 10) in the big 12 this year. So its a decent win, and we can even use the word "good" win if we're being generous, as I was. But its definitely not a "great" win. No great team or their fans beat their chest about beating a team in the bottom 25% of their conference."
    Translation:Not a big deal when BYU beats Utah this year...

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Nov. 26, 2013 9:36 a.m.

    Agreed if BYU beats Wichita State then it is a great win.
    I cheer for the Cougs but I think this is highly unlikely, Wichita State is one of the best shooting teams in the nation and BYU's Defense is abysmal. Good luck and I hope the Cougs pull it off.

    Nov. 26, 2013 9:29 a.m.

    Chrissy, considering that Utah will probably be in the 11th or 12th spot in the PAC 10.2, if they beat the number 10 team, most people will call it a "great win".

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Nov. 26, 2013 9:11 a.m.

    Yes Chris you are correct. This is a good win but not great for BYU. Great would be beating Witchita State tonight. Hopefully the utes can get up for Everglades Holy Trinity Tech or whoever they play. Really disappointed in Crisco's schedule this year. C'mon utes at least play all div 1 schools if you're going to line up patsies all non con.

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    Nov. 26, 2013 9:07 a.m.

    I'll add that IF byu could beat Wichita, that would be a "great" win, providing that Wichita goes on to have a good season as they are expected to do.

    So far, beating the #6 Pac 12 team and #8(of 10) Big 12 teams hardly are "great" wins.

  • Daved6 Sandy, UT
    Nov. 26, 2013 9:03 a.m.

    It was a good win, but man they really need to work on their interior D.


    No Mika does not look as good as Davies did last year. Davies actually played some good D which Mika will learn in time. He is way out of position sometimes. But he's doing pretty well for a freshman.

  • Alpiner Alpine, UT
    Nov. 26, 2013 8:56 a.m.

    Using my DVR I counted many times the Texas bigs were in the key much longer than 3 seconds. The one call I caught was after the guy was in the key for 5 seconds!

    BYU still needs to get away from the 1 on 5 habit they get into. Example this time was Collinsworth in the final two minutes getting up in the air after going 1 on 5 and then throwing it away.

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    Nov. 26, 2013 8:35 a.m.


    Like Wiscougar said, my exact comment was "Good win byu, I can admit it"

    Later on I did try to bring byu fans back to reality, which I'll attempt to do again, but a new rule by the Des News moderators seems to be "only say positive things about byu." As "punishment" it appears they deleted my first comment.

    I will remind byu fans that Texas was picked to be 8th(of 10) in the big 12 this year. So its a decent win, and we can even use the word "good" win if we're being generous, as I was. But its definitely not a "great" win. No great team or their fans beat their chest about beating a team in the bottom 25% of their conference.

    Just curious what your guys qualifications are for a "great win".

    If Utah beats the 10th best team in the Pac 12, are you guys going to call it a "great win"

    Or is it only when a WCC team can beat such a team that it is a great win?

  • UteNationAlum Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 26, 2013 8:31 a.m.

    BYU is looking solid. Not surprising. Should be a top 25 team here soon. Good job on representing the state well! Hopefully my Utes can follow suit.

  • Malihini Northern, UT
    Nov. 26, 2013 8:22 a.m.

    Carlino deserve much more credit that he gets. He kept BYU in this game at the beginning as much, if not more than Haws did at the end. His rap of being out of control and taking bad shots is overblown. The BYU fans need to see his talent and ability.

    A great win, yes, but I wish BYU could somehow become much tougher, more physical and less worried about referee calls. Can somebody grab Nate, the flopper, Austin and just tell him to stay on his feet and play the game. Wow. C'mon BYU. One thing they should have learned from that ISU game was the need to be physical, toughen up, and be the aggressors.

    And can the BYU fan base just get over the whole referee thing. I thought this game was officiated quite well, but even if it wasn't, the BYU fans just need to stop complaining. Play the game, stop flopping, stop whining, be tough, and hopefully the fans will realize that other teams have athletes too that also make plays and that it is not always about the refs.

    Great win Cougs! By physical and take it to the Shockers!

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Nov. 26, 2013 7:45 a.m.

    Good win, anyway you slice it. If a team ends up on the bubble, wins like this can only help a resume. After watching both Gonzaga and BYU play last night, Gonzaga winning the WCC is far from a given this year. No depth in side for the Zags, played horrible in the 2nd half vs. Dayton. Congrats to BYU.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Nov. 26, 2013 7:42 a.m.

    In a poorly officiated game, the Cougars never quit, they never gave up, they made me proud. I think we know that the officials will never call things the same at both ends, but we kept our composure and ran Texas until they were very tired. Bartley is going to be a star if things continue as they are presently.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Nov. 26, 2013 7:37 a.m.

    RE: Tators

    Chris B. did have a post last night congratulating BYU on the win. Don't know why it was pulled.

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    Nov. 26, 2013 7:35 a.m.

    Pretty cool being on national tv...again. Clearly, rebounding free throws are the key to this team's success. In the games we struggle, those two stats are low. Let's turn some heads tonight boys. Go cougs!

  • TXAfghanVet Dallas, TX
    Nov. 26, 2013 7:03 a.m.

    What a great year to be Coug in Texas! Hats off to the whole Basketball team last night. This was one of those wins that I think the entire organization had to do their share. With Haws having trouble in the first half, Carlino and the rest of the team did what they had to do. The coaches made some great adjustments to match BYU strengths to TEX weakness (not to mention some eyebrow raising officiating). I kept waiting for Coach Rose to go after the officials, but he would just tweak what the team was doing to work with what the officials gave him. That must be why he's coaching and I'm watching on TV. Great job Cougs!

    I love the passion that both teams played with. You could tell this game meant something to both teams. You just don't see that in the NBA anymore, except for the odd fan who still thinks the NBA players care about anything but themselves.

  • Cinci Man FT MITCHELL, KY
    Nov. 26, 2013 6:25 a.m.

    Great win Cougars! Big game coming up. Bring it on. Do your best. And please make your free throws. I promise it will help.

  • Lifelong Republican Orem, UT
    Nov. 26, 2013 12:58 a.m.

    BYU basketball is the most entertaining game in town. It is great to see them playing some real competition and it is great to hear the loud fan base wherever they play in the country. Great things are happening in Provo! This is a team and a program headed in the right direction. I was just looking at the recruits coming in and this team is going to be good for a long time. Congrats to coach Rose and the staff for building a program.

    Great time to be a Cougar fan!

  • BYU DUDE Provo, UT
    Nov. 26, 2013 12:33 a.m.

    We Got It Done.

  • Ufan Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 25, 2013 11:44 p.m.


    "Can anyone tell me why the game isn't being played in the Spectrum this year?"

    BYU and Utah State agreed to a home-home-neutral head-to-head going forward.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Nov. 25, 2013 11:21 p.m.

    Lots of Positives tonight:

    Rose showed why he is an elite Division I coach.

    Carlino kept us in the game in the first half and deserves far more love than he is getting. He is our sparkplug and game changer... He's quick and he pushes the tempo... A high risk, high reward player... Sometimes out of control? Yeah, but Rose has an effective handle on him... He knows when to turn him loose and when to calm him down... The speed of the game slows considerably when he is on the bench.

    Collinsworth is the glue that holds the team together... Much better this year than his Freshman year... Mr. Versatility.

    By far Tyler's best game this year... He's always in control... He knows the team relies on him in crunch time and he methodically steps up and handles it.

    Our Bigs are much more effective this year than last and we definitely have a legitimate back to the basket Offensive threat in Mika. I'm also liking Austin this year... Still need more "O" from him though... Our real problem is that we only have three of them and only 2 can play...

    Where's Sharp?

  • deseret pete robertson, Wy
    Nov. 25, 2013 11:15 p.m.

    The defense stepped up the last 8 minutes and I think that was a big difference in the game.Coach Rose went to a 1-3-1 and it helped to keep the big guy from getting it inside and made Texas shoot from outside - Haws is Amazing !!

  • Jake2010 bountiful, ut
    Nov. 25, 2013 11:09 p.m.

    The game on Saturday is in the ESA so that fans for both schools can enjoy the new video boards for collegiate event prices. Does this answer your question?

  • Zona Zoo Tucson, AZ
    Nov. 25, 2013 11:08 p.m.

    Aggie84 - The agreement between Utah State and BYU has them playing 2 years at the Spectrum, 2 years at the Marriott (alternating, not in a row), and the 5th year at a neutral location. Last time they met at Energy Solutions was the 2008-2009 season, so it's just that time again.

  • DRay Roy, UT
    Nov. 25, 2013 10:49 p.m.

    I'd rather watch the BYU Men's Basketball team than any pro team, including the Jazz...the fluidity of the game, the passion they play with is unmatched in a regular season NBA game...hats off to the tremendous effort, the tenacity of the Cougars. Not being in the top 30 of any of the polls, I believe they are underrated, and way more fun to watch than the Duke Blue Devils.

  • Aggie84 Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 25, 2013 10:26 p.m.

    Should be an interesting game Saturday night. Can anyone tell me why the game isn't being played in the Spectrum this year?

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Nov. 25, 2013 10:14 p.m.

    This game belongs to coach Rose and his staff. The adjustments he made going into the second half (collapsing on the bigs) made the difference... that and Tyler-I-can-make-anything-Haws. This was a quality win against a quality opponent. The strong out of conference schedule is paying off. If BYU puts up a decent showing in the WCC--combined now with wins at Stanford and at Big 12 officiating--they should be dancing come March. Go Cougs!

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Nov. 25, 2013 9:47 p.m.

    Carlino was most impressive the first ten minutes, but Haws stole the show with his performance the final ten minutes. I've seen Tyler put up some good numbers, but nothing as impressive as the final ten minutes of this game. Wow!

    I was just about ready to concede victory, and then out of nowhere Tyler knocks down two huge 3 pointers! And his fake pass and layup on the gigantic Ridley was priceless. I didn't stay up to watch ESPN plays of the day, but that should be one.

    Great win against a very good Texas team!

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Nov. 25, 2013 9:43 p.m.

    Pretty soon Texas isn't going to like us.

    Great win, Cougars!!

  • Farid @ Pocatello Pocatello, ID
    Nov. 25, 2013 9:22 p.m.

    Can't tell yet if this is a special team or a good one. A few thoughts:

    1--Does anyone else think Mika looks as good as a freshman as Davies did as a senior?
    Davies as frosh: 5.4 ppg, 3.0 reb, .539 shooting pct. --- as senior: 17.7/8.0, .522
    Mika this year: 14.1 ppg, 5.3 reb, .614 shooting pct.
    2--Frank IV is going to be one of BYU's best guards in time
    3--Kyle Collingsworth never stands out during the game but his stats do afterwards. He's at
    13.4 ppg and 7.1 rebounds for the season

    Who is going to take over at center when Mika goes on his mission? Do the Cougars have someone coming back? I can't remember ....

  • esodije ALBUQUERQUE, NM
    Nov. 25, 2013 9:07 p.m.

    Great zone defense, but, man, the Cougs have to start ~looking~ for people to block out once the shot goes up. All of the offensive boards kept Texas in the game and nearly won it for them. Nice job by Haws to knock down the shots (and the free throws) BYU needed at the end. It still doesn't make sense to me to call touch fouls on the perimeter if you're going to allow virtual muggings in the lane.

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 25, 2013 8:57 p.m.

    Really nice team win for BYU with 4 in double figures. Words are inadequate in describing Haws. Texas' offensive rebounding was impressive, but fortunately, when you hit 10/12 threes, you don't have to rebound on the makes.

  • let's roll LEHI, UT
    Nov. 25, 2013 8:52 p.m.

    Ouch! Victories over the Longhorns in both FB and BB. I guess we're not that anxious to get an invitation to the Big 12. Just kidding.

    Another great win. The aggressive style is entertaining. A lack of size will make it tough to rebound well which is the key to being able to run, but I applaud the constant desire to push the tempo.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 25, 2013 8:49 p.m.

    It's those final minutes which defines a team.

    Good luck tomorrow Cougs.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 25, 2013 8:29 p.m.

    Now, that's what I'm talking about. Shooting 82% for the arc! I am surprised this game was that close. Carlino played the game we all knew he was capable of. He didn't press, took good shots, and played very unselfishly. He was great! Haws was clutch in the finish, carrying the team to the buzzer. Foul shooting was much, much improved, though Bartley still needs to spend more practice time on the foul line. 20 total assists for BYU! That kind of unselfish BYU basketball is what I've been waiting for. Best performance this year. Well done Cougars!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 25, 2013 8:23 p.m.

    I was worried of another BYU player getting poked in the eye causing another loss. Lighting didn't strike twice.

    Texas has strength under the basket and is a good team.

    Great college game.

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Nov. 25, 2013 8:19 p.m.

    Biggest difference in between this game and the Iowa St game: FREE THROWS!

    20/28 for 71.4% tonight vs 12/20 for 60% against Iowa St.

    Of course, hitting 10/12 threes certainly was a big thing, too. They shout lights out from behind the arc and hit a more acceptable percentage of their free throws.

    The reason I think they shot better from behind the arc? The shots weren't forced. A lot of the 3's came off passes (catch and shoot) rather than somebody just throwing one up.

  • Louisiana Cougar Pineville, LA
    Nov. 25, 2013 8:21 p.m.

    This game was really a match between two different types of teams. Texas showed that BYU is very vulnerable on the boards. . . .but that's been the case for a long time. I continue to be puzzled about the poor foul shooting. The defense of the three ball was improved.

    I think the Cougars definitely stole one tonight. Bartley played a great game and was a key contributor. Worthington continues to look lost out there.

    Mika and Collinsworth were warriors and Carlino was amazing to start the game. Haws proved to be clutch down the stretch after a horrid first half.

    Give Rose and the team credit for pulling out a win.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 25, 2013 8:02 p.m.

    This was a nail biter! So exciting to see the Cougars play hard through the whole game and come through with a huge win. Also, it was great to see Eric Mika out there battling considering what he went through with the personal attack to his eye by an ejected Iowa State player last week. We love this basketball team.

    Go Cougars!

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Nov. 25, 2013 8:01 p.m.

    Prince Ibeh certainly benefited from the "Shaq" rules; which are, "since I'm big I can push people around and get away with it." I couldn't believe some of the "fouls" that were called in his favor (such as him knocking Austin to the floor with his body, but Austin getting called for a block. Should have been a no call, IMO, but if you are going to call a foul that's definitely on the offensive player.) He was a beast on the boards, though. BYU had no answer for him. They really had to shoot well to come away with the win on this one. Credit Haws for really stepping up after a tough first half.

    Carlino should really study Haws' play and learn from it. The biggest thing Haws does is square his shoulders on every shot. Even on that running jumper with the shot clock running down near the end, he got his shoulders square to the basket. Carlino is rarely facing the basket when he tries stuff like that, which is why he usually misses.

  • SaltyDog Rexburg, ID
    Nov. 25, 2013 8:00 p.m.

    Not gonna lie, i was sweating this one big time, especially with half of the team with 3 or 4 fouls. Great win!

  • morganh Orem, Utah
    Nov. 25, 2013 7:39 p.m.

    Cougars beat Texas 86-82. "Mr.Clutch" Tyler Haws knocks down the free throws to seal the win. Next up winner of Wichita St/Depaul. Great quality win Cougs!!