Cedar City mom traded sex with 13-year-old daughter for utility payments, police say

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  • aceroinox Farmington, UT
    Nov. 26, 2013 9:41 p.m.

    Does no one read their utility bills? Both the gas company and the electric company have programs for those who come up short and cannot pay their utility bills. This is not rocket science! As several have noted, this is a woman who made no effort to learn what her options were, though she was clearly blinded by her moral depravity.

  • sukiyhtaky us, CA
    Nov. 26, 2013 10:40 a.m.

    Part 3

    Ample safety nets to prevent this stress?

    Are you implying that the criminal and immoral behavior of this female gestational carrier is the result of a lack of aid programs? Really? I contend it is her laziness and unwillingness to put forth the effort to find help or get a job how about that? Give her children up for adoption to people who would love and take care of them how about that? What do you expect the government to do...deliver it to her door on a silver platter and chauffeur her to pay her bills and go shopping? Her sense of entitlement shown by her not caring for her own children shows the handouts have been too plentiful. She should have been handed free condoms instead of aid.

    You need to rethink.

  • sukiyhtaky us, CA
    Nov. 26, 2013 10:33 a.m.

    Part Two

    It is not uncommon? Look to Japan etc? Our military in IRAQ?
    I don't know what world you live in, but it is VERY uncommon around the world. Yes, it may happen, but it is not that common. My childrens grandparents were in Japan during WW2. They were literally starving and destitute with no male family members at home. Their mothers did not turn them out. My family here in the US lived through the GREAT Depression and NONE of their daughters were turned out. I know of nobody in my 7 person reach who turned out their daughters or sons. The American military historically and today has not and does not prey upon children sexually. Yes, it does happen, but it is very rare. I can't say the same for other militaries...without going into detail, the Japanese were monsters during what has come to be known as the Rape of Nanking which my mother witnessed first hand after that war and I can assure you it was not because Chinese mothers turned their daughters---their babies---out.

  • sukiyhtaky us, CA
    Nov. 26, 2013 10:21 a.m.

    Part One

    Sorry but this has annoyed me all morning and I have to add two more cents directly for Iron Rod.

    IR...You are WAY off base. What was going through her mind you ask? It was what is the easiest way I can do this so I don't have to do any work or planning on my part. If she was so stressed she would have put herself out there. You're right no MOTHER would allow it to happen...period...she was in no sense of the word acting as a mother or as a real woman would act. Mothers do not do that period to their children...I can't say that enough.

    The real criminals are the men? While the men are reprehensible, the mother betrayed the maternal bond of the child she conceived, nurtured and carried in her body. That is a sanctified trust and committment given by God that any real woman and mother would fight and kill if necessary to protect. To solicit and give her up to such a fate should receive the death penalty but that is me. Nobody harms my child without coming through me first.

  • Ranch Here, UT
    Nov. 26, 2013 9:34 a.m.

    @Iron Rod;

    While I do agree with your comment about the lack of appropriate saftey nets in our society, there are still some things you just do not do. Prostituting your children is one of them.

  • sukiyhtaky us, CA
    Nov. 26, 2013 7:46 a.m.

    To those who are commenting that desperate people do desperate things, that is true. However, a desperate mother who had a sound moral compass would never harm her child like that. She might go out and prostitute herself and I can understand that as a mother myself, but she would never do it to her daughter. This woman is nothing more that the biological embryo host, she was never her mother.

    In our world there are many options open to women with children. They just need to put in the effort to find them because nothing in this world, short of Mormon missionaries, will come to you. (hope that passes the finger wagging guys :)

  • wojo342 Cedar City, UT
    Nov. 26, 2013 3:50 a.m.

    The two "men" involved have been arrested and charged. The woman's arrest came later.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Nov. 25, 2013 3:04 p.m.

    BTW --

    What about the men involved?
    No charges being filed?
    So suspects in custody?

    It's not just this poor girl's mother who has broken the laws, you know?

  • Iron Rod Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 25, 2013 2:49 p.m.

    I agree it is sad that this woman felt this was the only way for her to pay her families heat and light bills. What was going thru her mind that she felt this was the only way.

    I do not feel any mother would willing allow this to happen to her daughter.

    What were her alternatives? Perhaps she did not feel there were other alternatives.

    The real criminals were the adult men who facilited this behavior and to a lesser extent the Mother.

    However; it is not uncommon for women to do this during times of stress such as war, occupation, natural disasters and famine.

    Look to Germany and Japan after WW2. How about Korea? How about Viet Nam?

    When we had 1/4 million service men in Iraq I find it hard to believe that it was not going on there also. It is an unspoken secret.

    I am not saying it is right but I am just saying it happens.

    There should be ample safety nets in the United States to prevent this stress from falling on the most vunerable members of our population.

  • FreeThinker Magna, UT
    Nov. 25, 2013 1:59 p.m.

    There are not words sufficient in the English language (or any other current language, I would think) to describe the violation that this would cause. If this mother is truly guilty of what she is being charged with, there is no punishment on Earth that can be sufficient. I don't say we should not provide some punishment if this proves to be true, but violations of this magnitude cannot be adequately dealt with by mankind. If this is found to be what has indeed happened, I do not want to be found in this woman's shoes come Judgement Day if she does not truly mend her ways.

    All that being said, I sincerely hope that the young woman can find a way to heal.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Nov. 25, 2013 1:59 p.m.

    Durham, NC

    I agree it's Despicable.

    But desperate people make desparate choices.

    FYI - I think the STATE needs stronger rights to take kids out of "Despicable" homes, with "Despicable" parents -- before it gets to this.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 25, 2013 11:33 a.m.

    LDS Liberal - I don't think that would have changed the mothers morals much. If it were not the bills - it would have been for something else.

    What would be better is for the daughter to have a way out. At her age, she should not feel the responsibility for keeping the family warm, or with food, or have electricity. If the mom wants to sacrifice herself, that is another question. But to ask your child to do what you will not.... as Ranch says.... Despicable.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Nov. 25, 2013 11:17 a.m.

    Would have been cheaper for the State and Society to just pay her utility bills,
    rather than all those investigators,
    attornies fees,
    and juvinele and psychological bills.

  • Ranch Here, UT
    Nov. 25, 2013 11:09 a.m.