@ Balan and CGNo, right now Utah is not a big-time program. But my
point stands that big-time programs usually do not play murder's row before
conf. play begins. Utah is in a big-time conference, so the Utes have adapted
that model. All that is left for Utah to do is consistently win.
Jeff ls"As for the coming comments about BYU football, they are
good but not as good as they should be, you will see a step up next year. The
schedule is getting better and they are getting better."Not as
good as they "should be?" Jeff, they are as good as they are going to
ever be.We'll see a step up next year? Jeff, the step up will be the
result of the schedule. Have you seen the 2014 schedule? Do you remember the
2011 schedule? They are almost identical. "The schedule is getting
better?" That's what Holmoe told you to say. "I
would like you to notice that literally every BYU football and basketball game
is on TV."That's good to know, Jeff. So far, I have only
seen one byu football game (hosted Utah). I have never even run across a byu
football or basketball game when channel surfing. Maybe it's because
I'm watching the teams in my elite conference on our own network.
I'll bet Big10 fans do the same thing. So Jeff, who do you think is
watching all those byu games?
In defense of Utah's schedule, they did play Lamar, which in the past have
been fairly good. But not this year, it has been a while since they were
respectable. The Pac 12 will be better this year than last year, but just like
football, Utah will not really be joining them in the better than last year
category. Sorry, if you are not very good, you don't really get any
respect for playing in a good conference. As for the coming comments about BYU
football, they are good but not as good as they should be, you will see a step
up next year. The schedule is getting better and they are getting better. It is
taking a little longer than I had hoped for. Good luck to Utah basketball in the
schedule that they have, but they are still cannon fodder. I would like you to
notice that literally every BYU football and basketball game is on TV. Chris, do
you have season tickets, cause that is about the only way you will be able to
watch them. Jeff
Th"Utah is much much better this year."This is
sort of like basing Utah's projected football success on how well the Utes
played against Weber State.Based on that 70-7 game, the Utes should
have been shoo-ins for the Rose Bowl. Unfortunately, playing "better"
against bottom-of-the-barrel competition doesn't always translate into
playing "better" against real competition.
This gives Utah some momentum, and creates a team winning chemistry.Smart move.
Th"The strength of schedule is not the best right now..."A gross understatement - Utah's SOS is the absolute WORST in the
The strength of schedule is not the best right now. Keep in mind Utah needs this
in the process of rebuilding. Utah was close to winning more than they lost last
year which was a major step after Boylen blew the program up.Yeah as
a fan, I'd rather see Utah / Utah St, or Weber, etc. But thats not what we
have. Utah is playing a similar schedule to many of the PAC12 teams. I think
Utah will play plenty of tough teams before this is over in conference. They
don't leave pre-season and begin playing in high school gyms on the west
coast!Utah is much much better this year. They will compete and win
games they haven't in the past two in the PAC12. Utah will go at least .500
in conference play. They have some very talented players, and its only getting
better. Sadly, some of these teams Utah has blown out might of beaten Utah two
years ago. So, it's good to see Utah playing at a higher level. The biggest
improvement I see, is Delon Wright! This guy has game! He'll play at the
"when the pundits start talking about national individual honors"?I'm saying the aforementioned players bring recognition on national
live tv numerous times a week.
ekute, not that a former BYU player caught what turned out to be the winning TD
in the last superbowl or anything...But you are right, BYU (by way
of its former players) hasn't come up much the last couple of years except
when the pundits start talking about national individual honors. At that point
they are forced to shut up about the utes because there isn't anything to
talk about in that vein.
Every time that Andre Miller, Andrew Bogut, Steve Smith and Eric Weddle play a
game, the U of U gets nationally recognized.Damian Lillard brings
national recognition to Weber state.USU?...byu?
2ferLOL at your spin.Oklahoma State just beat
11th-ranked Memphis. The "best" team Utah has played is 276th-ranked UC
Davis.The simple truth is, Utah hasn't been a big time program
since the last remnants of the Majerus era left Utah and the Utes have
absolutely no chance whatsoever of getting an at-large berth in the NCAAs by
playing the worst pre-season schedule in the entire country.You're only fooling yourself if you're pinning all of your hopes for
an NCAA berth on the Utes winning the PAC 12 tournament.
So you are implying Utah is a big-time program because they have a cupcake
schedule??? Pleeeeease. Utah has absolutely no national recognition for its
basketball. Unlike two other very respected programs in the state.
@ SportsFanSo what? Oklahoma State is 334 and Louisville is 331.
In fact the majority of the top 25 has an SOS ranked well over 200. This is how
big-time programs operate. Utah's SOS will improve in the coming years, but
the simple fact is Utah doesn't have to play a tough pre-season schedule to
get respect. Winning in conference will do that just fine. Besides Utah St., no
other in-state programs can say that.
This ridiculous caterwalling should stop. Utah is an improving team. NOt where
they would like to be, but on the upswing each year. BYU should have an
There are 350 NCAA Division I men's basketball programs.This
morning, Utah has the 350th-ranked SOS.When are the Utes going to
play a team with a pulse?
5 & 0, best start in years! This team is destined for the post season, heck
maybe even the final four! It is great to have Utah basketball back on top!
BYU has to schedule tough teams in the pre season, because they play in a
predominantly JV conference, not that any team in that conference did much in
the NCAA tourney last year. Great job by the number one ranked Zags...uno, dos
@ Ute Buster...Swing and a miss
Chris B, I think you've done enough for one day. Thanks though.The competition isn't great, but the only thing to do at this point is to
keep on winning. Ball St. only lost to Butler by one last night so the Red Birds
might be a fair test for the Utes.
The Utes are on quite a roll beating JV teams:NAIA Div II -
Evergreen State#296 UC Davis#326 Grand Canyon#318 Lamar#327 Savannah St
Savannah State? Which high school do they represent?
Yes, Chris. But please tell me when you are going to schedule some good teams
in the preseasobn. Coach K has taken that philosophy to the max. Good luck
once you have to start to play good teams like BYU, who by the way is NOT afraid
to schedule tough teams.
Congratulations to the Pac 12 undefeated Utes! And just remember those who mock
the schedule, its better to beat bad teams than lose to good ones. That's
what you guys said in football.