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  • Ajax Mapleton, UT
    Nov. 22, 2013 6:16 a.m.

    “Reconciliation and unity, respect and trust of others and fairness and compassion for all are not virtues that some Americans are yet ready to fully embrace.”

    Why is it that those who most profess a disdain of government regulation so strenuously reject the very principles by which people can truly come to govern themselves”

    Much of value has indeed been lost in choosing divisiveness and confrontation over reconciliation and unity.

  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 4:53 p.m.

    If you are wondering why our elected officials are acting with such "character of smallness," Andrew you need look no further then the comments here from both sides to see how their bosses behave.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 4:01 p.m.

    tried to respond twice, DN keeps blocking it. Must be because I report the hatred spewed from the left and asked how that could be the fault of Fox news or the right.

  • wrz Phoenix, AZ
    Nov. 21, 2013 1:09 p.m.

    "There is little doubt that from such smallness of character of those so vehemently attacking the president much of the benefit has been lost."

    Well, yes. And why is Barack Hussein Obama being attacked? Let's list a few reasons.

    Because of his relentless effort to move this country toward socialism, including Obamacare.

    For his failure to come clean on Benghazi.

    For using IRS to punish Tea Party members and others who wouldn't vote for him.

    For his knowing full well the lie that 'if you like your insurance policy you can keep it.'

    And because of his refusal to come clean with documentation which some suspicion would disclose that Barry Soetoro registered at Occidental and/or Columbia as a foreign student.

    And not being able to confirm unequivocally that his birth certificate is authentic.

    That he used marijuana and hard drugs contrary to the law of the land.

    That he provided amnesty to certain illegal immigrants contrary to immigration law.

    And much, much more.

    That's why.

  • 2 bit Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 1:06 p.m.

    There You Go Again,
    Who said, "MSNBC etc., has a corner/pipeline on divisiveness"...? Not me! Read my posts.

    It's easy to say a strawman nobody said it laughable. Because it WOULD be laughable IF somebody said it (but nobody said that).

    Obviously BOTH sides are divisive. I was just pointing out that Open Minded Mormon's blaming it on "AM talk radio, FoxNews and the Tea-Party" is Liberal brain wash rhetoric, not reality.

    But I never said it's the Left's fault. That would be obviously partisan blinded bunk. Just as silly as saying it's FoxNews or Drudge's fault.

    And the assertion that MSNBC, Moveon, Huffington Post, etc, only exist because Fox exists... is just as silly.

  • Thinkin\' Man Rexburg, ID
    Nov. 21, 2013 1:06 p.m.

    If you think it's bad today, you ought to see political columns and cartoons from the country's first 100 years!

    Really, you ought to look them up to put things in perspective.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 11:48 a.m.

    The advent of limbaugh/fox interpretative news entertainers/drudge et al. slash and burn scorched earth viewpoint precipitated the genesis of MSNBC and its associates.

    To suggest that MSNBC etc., has a corner/pipeline on divisiveness is laughable.

    MSNBC simply exists as a counter-balance to the "fair and balanced" interpretative news issued daily from limbaugh/fox/drudge et al..

  • SCfan clearfield, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 11:09 a.m.

    Open Minded Mormon

    Before you run off with accusing all of the right/conservatives with being hateful, divisive, and confrontational I have one suggestion. See what Martin Bashir, MSNBC, said of Sarah Palin a couple of days ago. If any conservative/Republican person in media had said of Obama or any other Democrat, anything close to what Bashir said of Palin, they would have been fired the same day. Your side celebrates the words of people like Martin Bashir, or Chris Matthews, or Ed Shultz. Talk about divisiveness.

    P.S. I posted earlier, and it didn't show up, so I tried to tame my point a little, as I guess someone at DN must have thought I was a little too strong.

  • m.g. scott clearfield, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 10:39 a.m.

    Though the letter writer tried to couch his opinion as being somewhat neutral, it is obvious that his basic philosophy is very simple.

    Democrats/liberals good. Republicans/conservatives bad.

    Or, more specifically. No criticism of President Obama is justified, it is all the T-Partys fault for Obamas failures.

    By the way, since one of the frequent criticisms of those that oppose Obama is that it is because he is black. For the record, if Obama were a conservative Republican, and legislating that way, he would be a hero to me. If Hillary becomes president, I'm sure that people will say that we oppose her because she is a woman. Of course the likes of Clarance Thomas or Sarah Palin never get that cover when they are criticized. Wonder why?

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 9:58 a.m.

    Open Minded Mormon,
    Absolutely NO confrontation or divisiveness on MSNBC programs is there? Or Meet The Press, The View, etc... Just Fox News.

    Bill Mahrer has NEVER said anything divisive or confrontational... just TeaParty people say divisive things... I get it.

    And Rachael Maddow, Chris Mathews, Thom Hartmann, etc... no division or confrontation... ya.. right.

    Blame it all on AM talk radio if you want... but it just shows how blind you are to anything but the AM Radio bogey man and the Tea Party.

    Partisan divisiveness aside... You can't just conveniently blame this on one side. Obviously both sides have a problem with it. You can point the finger of shame just at the teaparty and foxnews... but for people without partisan blinders on that doesn't work.

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    Nov. 21, 2013 9:47 a.m.

    Reconciliation is not as fun as fighting. So here's a divisive piece of my mind:I will take Obama's attempts to make our lives better over the last president's attempts to destroy small countries and torture people on behalf of the oil industry.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Nov. 21, 2013 9:22 a.m.

    Hutterite. Does that include you or just "others"?

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    Nov. 21, 2013 9:20 a.m.

    Unfortunately, fear and hate, divisiveness and confrontation are still the standard of choice throughout --
    AM talk radio, FoxNews and the Tea-Party.


  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 9:10 a.m.

    Reconciliation and unity, respect and trust of others and fairness and compassion for all are not virtues that some Americans are yet ready to fully embrace...in fact, it's not that we're not ready to embrace them, but rather have abandoned them.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 21, 2013 8:54 a.m.

    Alas... we are all still humans, and subject to human nature. When is that going to change?

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 21, 2013 8:30 a.m.

    The President is accountable for his own actions. How can anyone blame the messenger who reports the President's actions as being responsible for creating the President's mess?

    Transparency was promised. There is no transparency. When everything that the President does is done in secret, why would anyone trust what he says? When he caucuses with only the members of his political party and then goes on nationwide tours to lambaste the Republicans, why would the American People not find him to be untrustworthy?

    Mr. Obama has created the division that is taking place in America and then he blames others for that division. He tells us that some "rich guy" will pay for everything when even a grade-schooler can do that math and realize that even if Mr. Obama took all of the "rich guy's" money, that that revenue would not make a dent in the debt and that that revenue would not pay for Obama's promised programs.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Nov. 21, 2013 7:46 a.m.

    By the way didn't Obama say just yesterday that its the Republican's fault his Obamacare is failing?