Nobody blames the poor for being poor but we do blame the poor that want what
others have without earning it. I came from nothing and now have a little and I
will share with you but just don't try to take it.
@NeilT. I'm fully aware of Ayn Rand's philosophy and you are correct
that she was an atheist and advocated survival of the fittest. However, that
wasn't the point of my mentioning the book. I mentioned the book because
the story line mirrors much of the mentality that we see in our country today:
"it isn't fair if you have something that i don't." And...I
didn't bring religion into this discussion--you did. I was neither
advocating atheism nor promoting humanism. And...I've read the Book of
Mormon cover to cover many times so get off your high horse. The point of the
discussion was not whether we have a responsibility to help others but rather
whether others have the right to demand financial equality at the expense of
others. One of the biggest social ills of our day is the growing number of
people who believe and demand that somebody take care of their every need. We
have a growing population of professional welfare scammers who are resentful and
covetous of those who have something they do not. The Lord certainly didn't
advocate a welfare lifestyle. The Democrats did that.
Perhaps this might be an opportunity for us all to reflect on our many ancestors
who toiled and sacrificed to generate some measure of property not for
themselves but to pass on to their descendants. Who can tell me from which
side of the aisle the idea of "death taxes" as high as 100% has been
promoted and which side of the aisle continues to battle for returning those
rights of property not to the government but to the family of those who toiled
to generate it?
NeilT. When Democrats clamor for the rich to start paying their "fair
share," that doesn't qualify as class warfare? When the scriptures say
that "he that is idle shall not eat the bread nor wear the garments of the
laborer," that's really the source of the Republican approach to class
warfare? My misunderstanding. Blaming the rich for the poor being poor
accomplishes resentment and contention, too, only it holds no remedy.
Read the short story by Leo Tolstoy, "How Much Land Does a Man Require?"
A man lusts for land and forfeits everything. In the end, all the real estate
man requires is a plot 6 feet long by 6 feet deep!
Amen, NeilT. And the 47% that Mitt was rightfully mocked for criticizing is
almost all made up of working people who make money for the 1%, who have
mortgages and families that give them tax exemptions. That refers only to those
who did not have to pay federal income tax. They still paid about 30% of their
income on state and local taxes, property taxes, gasoline tax, and other fees.
Those other taxes and fees only make a blip on the income of the 1%, but they
scream bloody murder about paying even that. I love the Korihor comparison!
Chris,A photo shoot of excessive homes morphs into Which Romney v
President Obama...Sad.My thoughts center around moving
all the stuff from HV to SLC and then back to HV.Yikes!Thanks for the home tour as well as your "moving" personal adventure
Don't you just love the stereotypes and the vitriol expressed in class
warfare?Not all of the 47% who get benefits from the government are
lazy bums. Not all the rich people are unethical robber-barons who have
factories full of child labor slaves.Rich people should definitely
pay more taxes than poor people (which they would automatically do even with a
flat tax). But they should not be expected to carry all the burden of our tax
and spend government.Poor people should be helped by given
necessities if they can't (not won't) earn them themselves. They
should also have more opportunities to better their lives and encouraged to make
it on their own. A "hand-up" instead of a "hand-out" approach
would benefit everyone, especially the poor.
Speaking Out. Ayn Rand was an atheist who philosophy is nothing more than
social Darwinism or survival of the fittest. Her philosophy is similar to that
Korihor espoused in the Book of Mormon. We all prosper according to our
genius. Read it. We are our brother keeper said President Kimball. Can we
please end this 47 percent nonsense. Just because someone doesn't pay
taxes doesn't mean they lazy or unmotivated. It means our tax code needs
revised. It is Republicans not Democrats that advocating for class warfare.
Blaming the poor for being poor accomplishes nothing except creating resentment
@TRUTH,I get the impression that this is a list of most expensive
homes currently for sale. "At $44,000,000 this is currently
(still) Utah’s priciest home on the market. 5000 Royal Street was on last
year’s list at $49,500,000 - that’s $5,500,000 off! With that kind
of discount, I can’t for the life of me figure out why this one’s
still on the market."I would be interested in a follow up list
of the homes that have sold for the most historically, adjusted for inflation of
course.Still, at $2.75 million per bathroom, ya gotta love it baby
when the rich choose to redistribute their wealth voluntarily on something like
This is a journal entry Day! Dear journal, Holy Cow I agree with Chris
B. There is hope for both of us!
For those who don't seem to understand the social impact of the Obamanation
Administration's left-wing, liberal agenda, I highly recommend that you
read Ayn Rand's book, "Atlas Shrugged" before you get too high and
mighty advocating usurping that which isn't yours to take. Though it was
written over 60 years ago it illustrates exactly what is happening with our
country today. Let's face it, those who think someone else owes them a
living or a guarantee of some ethereal "sweet life;" who think it's
acceptable to take something they don't own and didn't earn, are
nothing more than envious leaches. You might as well break into homes in the
dead of night, steal the contents and go hock them because you are nothing more
than a common thief. By the way, in case you haven't yet stolen a
dictionary from your local library or worse yet, don't know how to use one,
this is the definition of USURP: To seize and hold (the power or rights of
another, for example) by force and without legal authority.
LDS "Liberal,""The 1%" starts at about $350,000 in
annual earnings. That's a small-time plumbing contractor having a good
year -- one of a dozen or so he'll have to rack up, in order to (1) save up
for the inevitable lean years, and (2) secure the kind of retirement a mid-level
public employee takes for granted. You wanna "rise up"
against that guy (a friend of mine), keep in mind he's heavily armed, and
has friends who like him much more than we like you. And understand that far
more often than you guys manage to shoot a Czar and his daughters, you get
chucked out of airplanes over the South Atlantic. Happy landings.
@happy, Yes I did assume that. I apologize.
Mitt takes things that aren't worth very much and through his hard work and
expertise turns them into more valuable items. That's the definition of
creating value.Unlike the 47% who think that the value Mitt created
should be given to them for doing nothing.And that's the
definition of lazy.
LDS LiberalYou want to "rise up against the One per
centers". Would that be with guns I wonder?You also said that
buying and selling for a profit is "Money Changing". It is also called
capitalism. If you are against that, then your new name should be changed from
LDS Liberal to LDS Communist. Or at least Socialist, because you have now gone
way left of traditional American liberalism.
Chris BDid you even read what I wrote? Or did you think my
reference to Chris was you instead of Chris Higby, the author? For your record,
I don't disparage one bit the rich in America, especially if they work and
create wealth for themselves and others. As someone once said, I've never
been given a job by a poor person. I was just lamenting that right now the
center of our government, the D.C. and surrounding areas are awash in tax money
that is giving them the American dream at a much greater rate than the rest of
us have been getting these last 5 years. I just don't think that is a
sustainable way to run an economy. Talk from Democrats is "Tax cuts for the
wealthy". Looks to me more like "Debt increases for the wealthy",
government wealthy especially.
$2 Million is the cheapest? What makes you think that $2 million qualifies for
this list.....the Belagio built out in draper next to corner canyon has to be
close to 10 million if not more! why didn't it make the list?
Why doesn't the Deseret News run a piece on ‘The 15 LEAST expensive
homes in Utah’?Ignoring poverty [even mocking it], while
idlizing, envying, and worshipping great wealth is Babylon.Jesus
warned against it time and again.It was also the beginning of the
end for the once great Nephites.
Hey Chris, you want to see the part of the country that is really booming and
making the most one percenters? Try the Washington D.C. area. That economy
sure has been trickling down. At our expense that is. It's amazing that
in todays America the wealthiest growth is coming not from wealth creation, but
from tax creation.
Consider all of the jobs that were created when these homes were built and the
property taxes that are paid each year, not to mention maintenance and other
ongoing expenses. All Utahns benefit from the excesses of these garish
I actually think these homes are ugly. I'd take a cozy little cottage over
these monstrosities any day.
@LDS liberalI look forward to the day when the 47% that Romney
referred to stop being lazy and irresponsible, thinking that the 1% should pay
their bills. If everyone had the work ethic of the 1% this country
would be a better place.
I don't look at these 1% people with envy at all, I just want
to know where they are, for when the 99% of the peasants finally rise up
eastcoastcoug,Having lived in SW Connecticut, I beg to differ.These types of homes are everywhere I have ever lived.
@eastcoastcoug"The Most Expensive Homes in Connecticut" -Business
Insider, May 14, 2012The obsession with wealth, while appalling, is
certainly not exclusive to Utah and Utahns.
Who really cares? You rarely see these kinds of lists outside of Utah. Why is it
that you people are so obsessed with the show of wealth? Other than Southern
California, I've never seen such a display of "look what we've
You can buy a skyscraper in Detroit for under 5 million.