BYU football notebook: Cougars busily preparing to face Notre Dame

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  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Nov. 20, 2013 5:25 p.m.

    Chris B:
    "Those guys told to go play a few meaningless snaps must be furious - and you'd better believe future recruits will hear about it."

    You guys act like this is something new. CFB programs across the country have been decreasing red shirts to clear up scholarships for players that contribute and not waste them on players that ride the bench for 5 yrs. How do you think Alabama signs 28 players when they don't have that many spots on their roster? They do it by clearing out red shirts and guys who aren't contributing. Many end up transferring. I'm a Georgia fan, and they have been doing this for quite awhile. It's high time BYU and Utah came around by doing the same. You have Tanner Mangum who will be coming off a you really want to risk having a scholarship available for him with guys that may never see more than garbage time? Every coach and program in the country is moving in this direction, so don't act as if Bronco is a bad coach for doing the same.

  • oaklandaforlife SLC, UT
    Nov. 20, 2013 9:50 a.m.

    This a very win-able game for the Y. If the weather isn't as bad as predicted, Hill should be able to throw at will against ND's terrible secondary. I have watched ND a lot (too many times) this year and have been blown away how bad their secondary really is.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 20, 2013 7:16 a.m.

    I'll be there also, IA Cougar. I saw the forecast. It is going to be miserable. I'm a little concerned. BYU this year has struggled in bad weather. In decent weather, I definitely give the Cougars the edge in this one.

  • IA Cougar West Des Moines, IA
    Nov. 19, 2013 8:04 p.m.

    Do you really think Bronco would deceive players and "waste" their eligibility? These guys practice with the team all year, work to improve and love to play. I doubt they feel ripped off or they would have declined to go in.

    As for Notre Dame....the game conditions look wicked to say the least. 30 degrees, snow and 20+ mph wind out of the north. It will most likely favor a running game and be a defensive war. That may favor BYU given the state of the Irish offense. Who knows. I'm excited to be at the stadium this year cheering on the Cougs!

  • Atrix Vancouver, WA
    Nov. 19, 2013 8:02 p.m.

    You don't have to red shirt your freshman year. In Billy Greens case he may actually want to keep his red shirt year available. If he gets injured later on or transfers to another school it would be good for him to have that red shirt available. Criticize all you want but this is between the coach and the player to decide. Munns was a 4 star recruit and has never been better than 3rd string, did any one care about his red shirt? It all plays out in the under center and the others on the bench. Why not get in the game when you have a chance? It may be your only chance.

  • tyler11385 Springville, UT
    Nov. 19, 2013 7:29 p.m.

    I actually kind of agree with Chris B on this one. Just cause they would have red shirted doesn't mean they couldn't have left for the NFL a year early (still in 4 years) if they are projected to get drafted. That way they at least have the potential to stay "if needed". If needed being the key words. To me it sounds more like Bronco clearing up scholarship space for the future with players he probably doesn't foresee getting as much playing time. If that's the case, it's actually pretty smart.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Nov. 19, 2013 4:19 p.m.

    I agree with CougFaninTX : I think those asked to give up their redshirt yrs were most likely talked to about it before and are not players the coaches think will be major players of the future. I don't know for sure and if playing them was a spur of the moment thing I'd be frustrated and upset but I think players were probably talked to ahead of time.
    Interesting article on ESPN about teams that are probably better than their record and BYU was one of them, I think that has been the case both last yr and this year. I think last yrs D was better than this yrs but not having a QB that could do much was the biggest problem , this yr was the same early until Hill developed, winning against ND and for that matter our bowl opponent will most likely depend on how well Hill plays.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Nov. 19, 2013 3:34 p.m.

    Good match up; looking forward to watching the game!

  • Stop The Nonsense El Paso, TX
    Nov. 19, 2013 2:52 p.m.

    I didn't even watch most of the second half vs Idaho State. Hearing that our backup QBs burned potentially valuable redshirts to play garbage minutes is frustrating. I would be pretty ticked if I were a backup QB who had sat out most of the year--content do so because I could get a shot at playing later on in my career--only to have my redshirt burned at this point in the season. I guess I don't know what was told to them during the recruiting process, but that seems like a pretty lousy way to lose a year of eligibility. (Especially for Green, who is not LDS and so won't go on a mission.) It also means that--with Hill at the helm--none of them is likely to see the field unless an injury to Hill occurs. (Let's hope that doesn't happen.)

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Nov. 19, 2013 2:39 p.m.

    This should be a very good game for the Cougs, and a much more winnable game for them. I try to be fair & impartial with my support of the Cougs. I had them losing to Wisconsin, but Notre Dame will be a different story. Time for some good, solid nat'l publicity as they end the season w/ the Irish and Wolf Pack and prepare for their bowl game.

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    Nov. 19, 2013 2:29 p.m.

    The Solution,

    Those guys told to go play a few meaningless snaps must be furious - and you'd better believe future recruits will hear about it.

    I think it was 4-5 guys Bronco had been redshirting, only to pull them to have them play 3 worthless snaps against Idaho when the season is almost over?

    So Bronco wasted an entire year of eligibility for those guys in order to run onto the field for 3 pointless plays against Idaho?

    I'd be furious if I was one of those guys. And you'd better believe they are furious as well.

    This is poor coaching at its peak.

  • DesolationRobot Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 19, 2013 2:11 p.m.

    As an alum of both schools, I have to say Go Irish!

    But this has the makings of being a good game. Injury notwithstanding, BYU has been exceeding a lot of expectations this year.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Nov. 19, 2013 1:29 p.m.

    I'm most interested in the "change in philosophy" about redshirting. Somehow I think this is less about a change in philosophy and more about - we don't want the player for an additional year, and we want the scholorship available for someone else instead of a 5th year senior who will be sitting on the bench.

  • The Solution Dayton, OH
    Nov. 19, 2013 1:29 p.m.

    I don't understand Bronco's position on red-shirting in regard to Billy Green. Green is not LDS and will not be serving a mission. Would it not have been good for him to redshirt? Stewart already served a mission and is a JUCO transfer, so he probably can't redshirt. The garbage time of kneeling for Green makes no sense to me. The sure way of losing stock in the NFL is to not play meaningful minutes. If an extra year of eligibility buys you more time for an opportunity to to play, then it is worth it.

  • RSLfanalways West Valley, UT
    Nov. 19, 2013 12:13 p.m.

    Well at least last week was not a bye week. Bye weeks seem to be bad luck for BYU.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Nov. 19, 2013 10:35 a.m.

    The team doctors and trainers are highly trained medical professionals who don't want to leave themselves open to liability issues by releasing an injured player to return too quickly. Undoubtedly, they will take the conservative and prudent approach in deciding who will be allowed to play this Saturday.

    Things have changed a lot from the way they used to be in that regard, when medical support personel would basically do whatever the coaches wanted. Thankfully, with the ongoing national discussions regarding concussions and other football injuries, more caution and professionalism now prevails on most teams.

  • DRay Roy, UT
    Nov. 19, 2013 6:27 a.m.

    Not a fan of playing hurt, even for starters prior to injury...oft-times a healthy back-up will execute the play better and help the team more than less than 100% starters, such as Falslev is now, will be Saturday. Some may say he has earned right to play, but no one earns the right to hurt the team's chances for success, and it is a team game.

  • Cinci Man FT MITCHELL, KY
    Nov. 19, 2013 6:17 a.m.

    I wish the Cougars well. I doubt that the game this past week helped tune them up for South Bend. I hope the defense is up to the task. I hope the offensive line is up to the task. I hope the defensive backs are up to the task. I hope Coach Anae is up to the task. I hope the running backs are up to the task. I hope the defensive front line is up to the task. I hope that Hill, tight ends, and wide receivers are up to the task. I hope the line backers are up to the task. I hope special teams is up to the task. I hope the Cougars bring it all to the field at every position. Every down and every position are critical. Go Cougars. This is a win-able game.

  • RockOn Spanish Fork, UT
    Nov. 19, 2013 1:23 a.m.

    Did ja notice that Wisconsin used about the same language when telling if Abbederis and their All-American linebacker would play against BYU as BYU is using when describing the fitness of Hadley and Falslev? But I'll bet neither will play...but BYU got played by Wisconsin.