Make families a refuge from the storm of pornography addiction

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  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Nov. 19, 2013 11:36 a.m.

    Ted, instead of trying to discredit someone who points out a fact, how about getting to work trying to solve the problem? If Utah is, indeed, #1 in porn subscriptions, shouldn't we all be very concerned?

  • BKB Chantilly/USA, 00
    Nov. 18, 2013 5:12 p.m.

    It seems that for every person getting help to overcome their problem with pornography, there are 8 or 9 others who are too embarrassed to get help. Pornography viewing problems don't go away by themselves but require help.

    12-step programs can be very effective for many people but one needs to stick with it or relapse happens. Other non 12-step programs, such as Power Over Pornography, are working well for many and tend to have a lower relapse rate because their follow-up components seem easier to do.

  • Ted H. Midvale, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 9:57 a.m.

    Jeanie, Peggy is just a bitter anti-Mormon, so she brings that up in a lame attempt to talk badly of Utah and what much of Utah represents. The funny thing, as you bring up, is that she doesn't really make any sense, as no one has said anything that would disagree with what she says. The Mormon church and many in Utah openly and continually acknowledge porn is a big problem everywhere, here in Utah certainly included.

    Its funny you called her out on it, with such a simple comment.

  • jeanie orem, UT
    Nov. 17, 2013 9:49 p.m.

    And, in spite of your best efforts, if your child becomes involved and addicted don't waste your time on guilt - yours or theirs - just get informed and get help. Do not stop loving them or believing in them. Buckle in and stick with them. It's a very tough and long road full of ups and downs, but all is not lost. In spite of a world that is absolutely failing them, our children were not sent here to fail.

  • JSB Sugar City, ID
    Nov. 17, 2013 9:48 p.m.

    When I was a kid most of the so-called "dirty pictures" I saw were nothing compared to what our youth are exposed to now. How can parents keep curious youth away from porn when they can look at something a classmate brings up on his computer or phone?

  • Zoniezoobie Mesa, AZ
    Nov. 17, 2013 8:55 p.m.

    In a 2005 stake priesthood leadership meeting, a member of the quorum of seventy told all the leaders present, bishoprics and quorum presidencies, that not one man in that room including himself, was immune from the temptations of pornography. Guard well your homes and your work places. Above all, guard well the minds and souls of your young children.

    What was once only found in printed magazines in brown wrappers, is now a couple of clicks away on anyone's cell phone.

    It destroys its victims ability to have normal relationships and addicts them to self-abuse, and self-absorbed fantasy.

    It is a sick and depraved world, and little is being done to prevent the purveyors of this sleaze and filth from corrupting innocent minds, and destroying the lives of men, women, children, and families.

  • jeanie orem, UT
    Nov. 17, 2013 8:30 p.m.

    What's your point Pagan?

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 17, 2013 8:29 p.m.

    "...pornography is that viewing it can lead to an actual addiction,..." I doubt this true as a general rule. But I think these well-meaning people are working the wrong side of this. The chief victims of pornography are those who expose their bodies and allow themselves to be exploited by the purveyors of porn, the porn business. The porn business has victims, mostly the people who work in the trade. I would refocus the attack on porn to come to the aid of workers in the business. The business should not exist. And this is a place for government regulation. But since we hate government we have to place the burden on the individual consumer. For your consideration.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 17, 2013 7:05 p.m.

    ‘Utah No. 1 in online porn subscriptions, report says’ – By Elaine Jarvik – 03/03/09 – DSNews

    ‘That's the conclusion of a Harvard economics professor who tracked subscriptions to online porn sites. Utah ranks No. 1 in subscriptions, according to Benjamin Edelman, who reported his findings in the article "Red Light States: Who Buys Online Adult Entertainment?," published in the most recent edition of the Journal of Economic Perspectives.’


    That was reported by the Deseret news:

    March 3rd, 2009.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Nov. 17, 2013 6:34 p.m.

    Online porn may well be one of the worst threats to young Americans. I know two people who are middle school counselors. Both firmly believe that nearly 100% of all eighth grade boys have at least had some experience with online porn (and perhaps 80% of girls). How many of those kids have or may become hooked? Because Utah laws prohibit teachers from speaking frankly and asking questions of students, they cannot really be positive, but both believe they are correct -- and they are very frightened.

    They believe that online porn is a very real kind of child molestation. Perpetrated not by someone in bed with the child, but by an anonymous pervert hiding behind the First Amendment in a dark, shadowy place while they rake in enormous amounts of money.

    What harm will be done to our nation's future before we find the wisdom and courage to stand up to this and look for ways to prevent it? Is this the First Amendment's counterpart to the mess we see with the Second Amendment? Do we need to gain control NOW before it is too late?

    Who will find the courage to confront this demon?

  • Ostertag4Life Provo, UT
    Nov. 17, 2013 4:56 p.m.

    I live in a 4 man apartment in BYU housing. Myself and 2 of my roommates are attending 12 step meetings for pornography addiction, yet we pretty much all feel awkward about disussing that information with each other to one degree or another. The biggest problem facing the pornography storm is the stigmatization of those who use pornography, and the resulting unwillingness to be open about it. I feel like sometimes it would be way more acceptable for me to be addicted to pain pills in certain circles, even though pornography is way more common for members of the church.

  • jeanie orem, UT
    Nov. 17, 2013 10:23 a.m.

    Hutterite, you ARE uninformed. Most people won't talk about this problem, often not even with their closest family members. Why would they share with you? It doesn't take religious guilt for porn to have a negative impact on lives. As soon as we decide to view humans as a commodity to be used for our appetites we loose our humanity. The porn industry is no different than the slave trade was years ago in that people used in that industry are not seen as human beings, but rather objects - objects whose bodies are sold to make others rich. That you believe grown men are not viewing porn really is uninformed. Teens alone do not fuel this enormous industry.

  • george of the jungle goshen, UT
    Nov. 17, 2013 10:14 a.m.

    Everything is contagious.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Nov. 17, 2013 9:15 a.m.

    I guess there must be some out there, but I move in a really wide circle of people, a good number of whom are not restricted by religious guilt to discuss topics of the world, and none of them, not one in my entire life, has ever shown a hint of porn addiction. Indeed, most people want nothing to do with it, having matured beyond the level of pubescent boys. This may just be my experience, but the storm seems to be an attempt to whip up some fear by fervently stirring a teacup.