Jury convicts Martin MacNeill of drowning his wife in bathtub
My brother was betrayed many years ago by MacNeill. We learned that he is canny,
unstable, brilliant, unreliable, underhanded *and* a liar, among many other
dangerous traits. To anyone who believes reasonable doubt should have exonerated
him, you really have no idea of the man, no idea at all.
I believe there should be evidence of murder before you use the circumstantial
evidence to convict. MM did a lot of bad things but to convict him of murder
when 3 medical examiners cannot determine a murder was committed is not justice.
Thanks to his defense team who tried to address the real issues rather than
just the bad acts.
JBT - sorry you feel inclined to perpetually frown and feel that attorneys
should be aggressive and cold. We felt that Mr. Spencer defended his client in
an outstanding manner. It is important to ask difficult questions without
creating a hostile atmosphere. Hope you never get in trouble!
I had always thought that there needed to be a murder before someone was
convicted of murdering and there certainly was no scientific evidence that a
murder had been committed. I am amazed at how righteous everyone else is and
how quick they are to throw stones. I certainly do not condone Macneill's
horrible behavior but that does not add up to murder. I was impressed at how
very prepared the defense team was and how assertively they defended their
client. Randy Spencer is a great lawyer and I appreciated that he did not
harass or abuse the witnesses. Not sure Macneill could have been found not
guilty and the jurors still live and work and go to church in the Utah valley.
Where are all the atheists and regular DN bashers here when an ethical judgment
is rendered against evil? There is only evil when good exists also. Where did
that standard "evolve" from?God is Judge and He adjudicated
this evil man now. I will wait sadly but patiently until He explains why so
much pain and evil still abound. But denying The Holy One's existence
should terrify the unbeliever when left bereft of His justice.God
bless this precious, suffering family.
I worked worked him as a nurse at the Developmental Center and from the moment
this happened many of us did not put it past him. He is such an egotist whose
blood runs with ice water. I am so happy to see the girls avenge their mom and
sister. His only son committed suicide after his mother's death. There has
been so much pain in these lives. I do hope peace for them now.
I feel that the jury reached the correct verdict. I also feel incredibly sad
for this family. I can't imagine having the feelings the daughters had.
Losing their mother, seeing the family dynamic change, losing a brother to
suicide, apparently because of this case, and now dad is returning to prison for
what will likely be the rest of his life. heartbreaking doesn't begin to
Imagine your mother dies. Within a few days your father brings a strange lady
into your home. She supposed to be a nanny however she does nothing a nanny
supposed to do. You find out your father has been having an affair with this
new lady and they are now sharing the same bedroom. Can you blame the children
for being suspicious? I sure don't. Does it prove your mother was
murdered. I say no. Does it cast a cloud of suspicion around your father.
Absolutely. Factor in the father's other suspicious behavior and I have no
choice but to conclude foul play was involved.
Was justice truly done? In this case, and based on the media reports, I doubt
it. Time will tell if the courts (I am confident it will be appealed) agree
with the jury on this one. Conviction based solely on circumstantial evidence
is, and should, be questioned.
I couldn't be happier with the jury's decision however it seems that
this was soooo premeditated that 15-life is too light of a sentence. Anyone know
why he won't be sentenced until next year?
This makes me very very happy. I'm happy for the family .
It is clear what convicted McNeill were his actions surrounding the death of his
wife and his behavior afterwards. Also the fact that his own children believed
him guilty is a huge red flag. If he had truly been a loving husband and father
those children would have stood by his side. Watching the trial and reading
about the medical testimony made me see some of that was really inconclusive
(which was why the medical examiner could not definitely say homicide) , but the
fact that he was acting so sneaky, pretending to meet Willis when he already
knew her, flushing medications before the police got there, pushing his wife
into surgery, and his medical knowledge I believe convinced this jury he could
commit a crime and make it look like it could have been natural causes. Also to
those people who are newer residents of Utah who think that this is a unique
phenomenon to our state, look around and read news from other states. It's
a proven fact that most murders are committed by people the victim know, and
when it is one of a couple it is statistically most likely the spouse.
He is a creep to be sure, but I think there was reasonable doubt that he
murdered his wife.
Men who plot and then murder their wives must assume that law enforcement
isn't going to put a lot of extra effort into investigating things if they
can make it look like suicide, an accident or a disappearance. And especially if
they can use all their narcissistic charms to convince the law their wife was
"unstable". It works out great in their own heads. So they do it.I see this pattern played out on a lot of true crime / mystery programs.
So I don't think it's that uncommon when a man murders is wife.It makes me wish they would bring back public service ads about domestic
violence. That it is more than physical abuse. It's also emotional abuse.
They stopped running them decades ago. Who knows how many lives were saved by
Definitely the correct verdict. I watched the entire trial and definitely
believe the prosecution/jury got it right. Even Martin MacNeill looked relieved
after the verdict - almost like he could stop pretending and relax. His
reaction was pretty telling, in my opinion. He probably displayed that calm,
cool, gentlemanly demeanor many times-- he probably crafted it. DesertNews did a great article on MacNeill a few years back - if anyone is
interested.. it is entitled: "Martin MacNeill: Was his wife Michele's
death accidental or was it murder?".. Search it out - it is a great read. I
didn't read it until after I watched the trial and came to my conclusion of
guilt. When the jury came back today - I then spent time googling stuff up..and
wow, what an eye opener. I bet the jury is stunned today - now that
they can read the coverage of MacNeill. They'll be even more confident (if
possible) of their verdict.RIP Michele...and may peace be with her
Three of Dr. Martin MacNeill’s daughters took the witness stand to testify
against him, providing damning testimony about his behavior surrounding his
wife’s death.“He did respond, ‘Yeah, I think I
gave her too much medicine,’” MacNeill’s daughter, Alexis
Somers, testified of a confrontation she had with him as her mother recovered
from plastic surgery in April 2007.Somers said she spoke to her
mother later in the evening as she came out of sedation.“She
said, ‘Lexie, I don’t know why, but your dad kept giving me
medications. Things to swallow. I think I even started to throw up, but he kept
gving me more medication,” Somers testified.Somers said her
mother wanted to “feel” the pills, so she knew what her husband was
giving her. Days later, Michele MacNeill was dead.Somers, then a
medical student, testified that she kept a log of her mother’s medical
treatment including prescription drugs administered to her. The day her mother
died, she said, that book vanished.(Fox)
I am so thankful today that a jury took all the evidence at hand and found
Martin MacNeill guilty of beautiful Michelle's death. We knew her in
Blanding when he was the local doctor there, and she was a beautiful soul. I
found her to be a real lady, quiet, and a lady who obviously loved her children.
There were problems when he was the local doctor there namely problems with his
medical license and a town meeting was held to try and get to the bottom of it.
It was never resolved and then he left to continue his charade to law school.I
had a daughter the same age as one of Michelle's girls and when I think how
things turned out for that precious little girl plus the suicide after
Michelle's death of Michelle's son, it absolutely breaks my
heart.I'm so glad justice has been served and hopefully the family can find
some semblance of finality and peace with his conviction. I will finish by
saying if I had one word to describe the Michelle I knew, it would be this
'an elect lady.'
It wasn't just the inmates reports of statements he made to them that let
to conviction. He is a physician and knows what can be traced and
what can't be traced. Not every murder leaves behind DNA. On the one hand
he demands an autopsy and on the other he tells the son to flush the meds. No
way to tell how many meds got flushed and how many made it into her system. In
this 1 plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 equals 4. On TV it's more neat and tidy.
our justice system has failed us once again. This man never had a chance. They
should have saved money and hung him on the steps of the courthouse. This case
was nothing but REASONABLE DOUBT! The fact that the jury believed the inmates
more than the MEDICAL EXAMINERS is disturbing. It was very obvious, with good
reason, that the daughters were clearly biased and was caught lying so much I am
surprised their statements were only impeached and not charged with perjury!
This is not how our judicial system is supposed to work.
I saw this case on one of those programs "20/20" or "Nightline"
or something some time ago. The presentation sure made him look guilty. It is clear the oldest daughter, who was in medical school at the time,
thought her father guilty from the get-go. Cases like this never
cease to amaze.
PLM, I doubt it happens anymore in Utah than it does in other states.
A little surprised at this verdict after watching all of the trial live. He may
have done it, but I thought there was plenty of reasonable doubt. Based on the
jury's request for information on the home which was part of one of the
inmate's testimony, it looks like they took the inmate testimony
credibility over the original state medical examiners determination that it was
Our legal system allows for the personality of defense and prosecution
attorneys, but the jury usually makes their decision on evidence, not
personalities. If an attorney is too histrionic or too passive it is
counterproductive and the judge can reprimand them. Mr. MacNeill is his own
worst character witness and his criminal past is difficult to ignore.
Sad that the guy got away with every thing that he did for so long and in public
trust. creepy guy in the first place.
Justice is served. To the jury -- well done.
Sociopaths have no conscience. What they do and can get away with fits well
into their life and actions. Even before his marriage he showed that he
lived by what he could get away with.So much of his life, social and
career was riddled with lies and fakery.What really convicted him was he
actions after his wife's death, and yes, some of the pleasure from
being what he is and has done comes from the sharing of it in hints, tips, and
"...it cannont be proved." I am happy for the family who can now
feel that truth has won out. May they find the peacethey have been
My heart goes out to the children of this couple, they not only lost their
mother, they also lost their father. The one they had to look in the eyes and
know that this man who they were suppose to love and trust was not there for
them and the day their mother died, they became orphans.
I didn't really expect this verdict. I have no idea if Mr. MacNeill is
guilty or not. However, the charges and news articles paint him as guilty by
association. I'll trust that the jury was thoughtful and did the best they
could. It seemed to me from the outside that the evidence to
convict was not strong enough to convict. It is confusing that so much stake
was put in the testimony of convicts. If a witness in any case, other than a
neutral hired professional witness, is paid to give evidence we would strike the
testimony out. Yet, the inmates are paid with reduced charges, early releases,
and immunity, etc. 'Informer' testimony has long been suspect in law
enforcement and it seems odd to build a case on these testimonies.
Randy Spencer brought the guilty plea down on Martin McNeal. NO ONE PERSON
deserves to go to court and be treated In that manner. He should be disbarred!
Justice!Thank you jurors for your hard work listening to the evidence and
the law and rendering a verdict based on the facts.
PLM--I too have wondered about this. And not just adultery. Am reminded of the Lori Hacking case. If you do not want to
be with someone anymore---there's the door. No need to attempt to
poison them, or shoot them, or drown them...just leave already.
That whole prosecution team deserves all the credit. Their closing arguments
wrapped everything up perfectly! Great job! However, I do have to wonder how
much Randy Spencer played in getting that guilty verdict... I watched a lot of
the trial, and it was irritating, and embarrassing at times, to watch Mr.
Spencer cross examine the witnesses. I imagine the jury was paying more
attention to his facial expressions, his juvenile behavior, and his demeaning
attitude, More then they were listening to the witnesses statements. The
smirking and condescending attitude his how high school student make fun of each
other... There's little place for that in a court room, and certainly not
smart when talking directly to the jury..
Narcissism at it's lowest.
Juries also make mistakes. That's why we've had hundreds of
convictions reversed when analysis of DNA later showed that the person they
convicted was factually innocent. That doesn't mean the jury was wrong
here, but we need to remember that juries are not infallible which is why we
have an appeal system.
This guy deserves everything he gets. He has been living a life of lies for
many years. I'm so happy for her children.
As a fairly new resident of Utah, I have been surprised at the number of men
that kill their wives instead of divorcing them when they have affairs. Adultery
and murder seem to be linked somehow, it reminds me of King David. This gross
destruction is a very disturbing trend that law enforcement needs to pay
attention to and women need to protect themselves from. And men, seriously, you
know better. You don't need to destroy your family, your wife or your own
life. If you must get out, be man enough to take the legal route and the
consequences. Best wishes to the McNeil children as they heal and rebuild.
That is just one more good reason to NOT have plastic surgery!Girls,
you are beautiful without surgery. Thank you Jury for making the
He probably committed the murder but from the information in the media I did not
think the prosecution proved this beyond a reasonable doubt. The inmates'
testimonies must have been more convincing in person to the jury than the
reports in the media.
Juries almost always do the right thing.