I would have like to see Utah play a tougher non-conference schedule, but it is,
what it is. The PAC 12 conference will provide all the opportunity that Utah
needs to prove itself. Anything short of the NIT will be dissapointing.GO UTES
"Chris BSalt Lake City, UTImpressive win. And for
those who make fun of Utah's schedule, you people made fun of the schedule
last year. And guess who had the most top 100 RPI wins of anyone in the
state?The Pac 12 University of Utah UtesSo either the
other local teams had terrible schedules as well, or their teams are just inept
at beating any good teams.I think we'll be 5-7th in the Pac 12
this year. Excited for the season.Go Utes"Is this
similar to your (8-4) and in contention for the Pac 12 South until the final
I am a BYU fan and don't like Utah but don't particularly hate the
Utes. But beating any team by that much is not something to mock. Utah played
well in their first game. But it also has to be noted that Evergreen State is
not only NAIA Division II, they are a NAIA Division II team that only won 2
games last year. They lost by 83 to Seattle University last year, a team that
finished 10th in the WAC last year. So while it is nothing to scoff at, I will
gladly take the two 9 point wins BYU has so far this year over Division I
opponents (both of whom could quite likely end up in the NCAA tournament) over
the Ute's 1 84 point victory over a team that many high school teams could
When will the Utes get a break from this crushing schedule? How long can the
morale be sustained when they are only beating lesser quality teams by 80
poyman...how did the byu / Utah game play out last year? It will be interesting
to see which one improved the most over the last year because that will be the
winner this year. See you in a few weeks!
Hey Ute fans. Y fans and Aggie fans! Just for fun....lets support instate
teams until we play one of them. The better we all do the better it is for us!
Good luck Aggies!Good luck Utes!Good luck BYU, Weber and
Real Bass"Embarrassing that anyone would call thi a nice win or
defend the u's schedule."Thanks for your opinion. I was
watching the Pac-12 Network last night and noticed that Gonzaga poured in 100
points in their basketball game. I'm sure the byu collective is giddy with
excitement about the attention that accomplishment brings to their highly
respected conference. Do you know who Gonzaga's opponent was? Neither do
I.You might take the advice of Surf is Up and ease up on the
criticism. Thanks for stopping by.
Thanks for bringing some civility to the discussion, Reno Cougs Fan 68.
All three major Utah teams won their first games!!! Congrats to all three and
keep the wins coming!!!Go BYU!!!Go Utah!!!Go USU!!!
As a BYU fan I'd like to admonish my fellow Cougars to not throw stones so
hard concerning the ease of the pre season in the Utes schedule. This is common
practices for most programs-- in that it allows the team to tune up and also
gain confidence. It is true that, if there are too many cupcakes on the
schedule, that the team might not be sufficiently prepared when conference play
begins, but the focus right now is to ease into the season. For you
Utes who like to mock the WCC-- although it is true that the venues in which
most games are played are smaller arenas the teams in the WCC are the
beneficiaries of not having to compete with football programs for university
resources. So they pretty much focus on basketball. The result is some very
decent basketball teams. Teams that can beat PAC teams as well.Looking forward to the basketball year.
Embarrassing that anyone would call thi a nice win or defend the u's
I really think the reason that the u has scheduled these cream puff teams is
that they are afraid of a repeat of a couple of years ago and watch as half of
the team takes off for destinations unknown. Think about it! If you don't
win, the team gets depressed and the players want to go somewhere else. The
problem is, when and if this team starts dropping some of these games and then
lose big time to their conference foes, it will have the same effect! Keep going uties, your recruiting with this kind of scheduling is going to be
laughable. Who wants to come to SLC and play for a cellar-dweller team that
schedules glorified High School teams? Keep shooting for the stars and forget
about the basket.
@mindgamesAurora, COAgree with PAC Man.This
schedule is pathetic.------------And I agree with my
Cougar Nation friends. But why do you guys care, unless you're a season
ticket holder?Utah didn't create this type of schedule to be
able to make the dance. It was created to raise the program from the lowest
point in history. Why do you guys have such a hard time understanding that
fact?As far as this Ute is concerned, there was no mass exodus from
the team and the talent seems to be improving. It's early but Delon Wright
looks like the real deal and I can't wait for next years class.Go Utes!!
@myperspectiveI would come back and talk after the BYU game, but
after the Cougs win their 12th out of the last 13th meeting between the two
teams I really don't think you or some of the ute fans that know something
about Basketball will feel like talking much... I have a question for you...
When was the last time that a ute team (other than in Gymnastics) ever beat
another school 11 out of the last 12 times that they played each other? Never...
But BYU has done it to the utes in Basketball and that streak looks to go
longer, and of course the Cougs have done it to the utes in Football...It's tough to be a ute fan today, but I give it up to you for
trying...BTW, how many fans watched Utah beat the big bad NAIA team
from Evergreen State at the HC? lol... That's what I thought.
@GoRed: Better go look at the strength of schedule RPI rankings before making
those kind of statements. Also anyone who thinks BYU has not been out scheduling
the toughest teams they can is just not paying attention.
@Brave Sir Robin - "It's funny hearing BYU fans getting on Utah's
case for having a weak schedule. Do we have your permission to return the favor
in January when we're playing UCLA the same day you play Pacific?"U may want to find another analogy since both Pacific and UCLA were both
NCAA invites last year. Good luck against Grand Canyon while we're playing
Iowa State and Texas.
From the "fans" of a 35,000 student school who has a couple of the
biggest athletic facilities in the country and nobody wants their football team
and their basketball team is relegated to playing their road games in
Lifelong Republican"Are we talking BYU football? Are you talking about
Texas, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Georgia Tech, Boise State, Nevada, Utah?" Actually, no...we are not talking about byu football. But while you are
at it, the programs you list are recognizable names in the football world but
not a single one is living up to its reputation this year. So, since you
brought up this off topic, byu football has a weak schedule this year and 2014
is even worse.btw...there isn't a Utah fan on the planet who
would disagree that the Utes preseason schedule is weak. Not one. Top to
bottom, it's nothing worth a hoot. Coach K has a strategy in place, he
knows his players, and the building continues. I also don't think there is
a Utah fan on the plant who isn't behind Coach K 100%. Frankly, I think rants from byu fans such as yourself don't like what
they see the Utes becoming.
Chris, Chris... when are the Rundown Utes coming to play in the Spectrum? We
handed your big brother a nice little loss last night. Don't U want a
Cant win in the Pac-12, might as well load up on Patsies...
It's funny hearing BYU fans getting on Utah's case for having a weak
schedule. Do we have your permission to return the favor in January when
we're playing UCLA the same day you play Pacific?
Just checked byu's preseason schedule and here's what I found...Sprinkled in with impressive games scheduled against Stanford, Texas,
Iowa St., UMass, Utah, and Oregon (demonstrating Holmoe's desperation to
get byu in a real conference particularly the Pac-12) are games with...wait for
it...Mount St Mary's Mountaineers The "Colmes"
(what is this?)North Texas Prairie ViewSo,
Justmythoughts, CougFaninTX, But seriously folks!, rj, BYUalum (a byu fan
criticizing ANYONE for having Idaho St on their schedule gets a huge LOL!), Down
under, souptwins, poyman, mindgames, and PAC man, let the excuses begin.I have to wonder if the day will ever come when Holmoe finally
acknowledges that it takes more than begging for games against Pac-12 teams to
be a part of an elite conference. Impressive stats for the Utes
last night. Coach K was very clear that the objective here is to build
confidence. If I had to choose between the strategy of Coach K and the above
list of disgruntled byu fans, I'm going with Coach K.
Funny comments today. Especially the ute fans trying to justify their weak
schedule by claiming BYU pads theirs withe cupcakes. Are we talking BYU
football? Are you talking about Texas, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Georgia Tech,
Boise State, Nevada, Utah?Their is no way to justify this pathetic
of a pre season schedule. Yes everybody plays one or two of these games to get
their team going but go take a look at the pre season schedule.The
rest: Evergreen State (Nov. 8), UC Davis (Nov. 15), Grand Canyon (Nov. 21),
Lamar (Nov. 22), Savannah State (Nov. 23), Ball State (Nov. 27), Idaho State
(Dec. 10), Texas State (Dec. 19), St. Katherine (Dec. 28) St.
Katherine?Good luck in the pac 12 with that lineup to get you ready.
The truth is, this schedule is pretty weak. But our program has been pretty
weak, and if this is part of coach K's strategy to build us back up, so be
it; whatever he's doing is working. We saw evidence of that in the Pac 12
tournament in Vegas last year.Let's hope this is the last year
our schedule is like this.Let's also hope BYU fans continue to
fail to see the irony of talking about another team padding their schedule with
cupcakes, because it's priceless!
@GoRedI totally agree with you. Well said.
Aren't most of Utah's preseason games against WCC teams? If they are
not members of that conference they should be, because they are about the same
level of competition.
One game into the season, against an NAIA Division II school no less, and
we're already having to plan for next season because there's
absolutely no possible way for the Utes to earn a double-digit RPI to qualify
for an at-large NCAA bid with this pathetic OOC schedule.
This is just sad. It is sad how far the "runnin' utes" have fallen
that this is how the season has to open. Yeah great win. We learned nothing
about this team and this "win" will actually be a pox on the resume if
the team actually gets enough wins to be considered for a post season
tournament. Likely the football team won't go bowling. Are we saying the
bball team won't play in the post season either?
Those of you making fun of the schedule (BYU fans), don't forget that just
a few short years ago you were clamoring for these sort of opponents for the
Utes because they had a legitimate chance of losing. Who can forget Southwest
Baptist University, and how much fun you had with that one? I agree,
the Utes' non-conference schedule is pathetic this season, and probably
won't challenge them much. As embarrassing it is to say, though, it shows
some of the progress the Utes have made that they can not only win these games
handily, but have rival fans crying foul for playing games that are too easy.
Baby steps I know, but they're steps.
Impressive win Utes...I think your ready to take on the Campfire Girls all-star
Pathetic schedule. I love my utes but this is no way to build a team The win
was great but zi smell trouble when we have to play decent competition. I am
disappointed in the athletic administration for going this weak route for wins.
I would rather have a few loses to tough teams than be laughed at by BYU ans
Utah fans alike. We will et zero respect for these types of wins. Our SOS
Even though the final score looks impressive, it tells us nothing about the
Utes. Lone Peak's high school team (last year) could have easily beaten
Evergreen.I can even understand scheduling 2 or 3 teams of this
caliber, but to schedule about 8 cupcakes in non-conference makes no sense and
will not prepare the Utes for conference play.Utes will continue to
look impressive against these cupcakes, but reality will show up when U get into
conference play.I still don't think the Utes get to .500 this
Let me get this straight. We have BYU fans coming onto a sports article on the
Utes and making fun of their schedule? This, from the fan base of the same
school whose football team routinely plays the bottom 6 or 7 teams in the
country in order to pad their schedule to make them appear to the voters back
east that they are a "Top 25" team.Unbelievable. Only in
I see that BYU and USU both played quality div. 1 opponents and utah played a
high school team. What a cowardly approach to getting instant wins. It seems
the first 9-10 games will be the same type of opponent. Nice work coach K. I
hope the utah fans don't get tired of seeing cupcake teams the entire
pre-season. BYU is the only game they can really get excited about but then
again with BYU owning the utes 11 of 12 maybe not.
poyman"I also suspect that it will cause the big bad pac12 foes to
shake in their boots."Come back and talk after the byu game
then, poyman. Maybe then you can put your high powered attorney from Lincoln
City, Oregon analytical skills to good use. Question for you...when was the
last time you saw an article about Utah basketball where the words "out
manned" were used to describe the opponent? I will agree with
you on one point, though...anytime a Utah schedule has byu as the 2nd of the two
toughest opponents, it is embarrassing. The Utes may pay a heavy price for
their weak schedule once conference play starts and they have become accustomed
to winning by 80+ points.Down under"What is NAIA, a
high school league? Way to go utes. Really BIG win." Are you
kidding? I thought you were a byu fan. byu's entire season is played in
high school gymnasiums. You should be well familiar with it.How's this for an opinion: I think the Utes re-establish themselves after
a short three seasons with Coach K at the helm and neither one of you like what
It's always good to start off the season with a win. I don't think
last night's game proved anything has changed up on the hill though.
Evergreen State, let's be honest, is no more than a high school team. Even
if a semi-decent D1 basketball program didn't beat them like the Utes did,
I'd say you have problems. Utah's first real test shouldn't come
until they play Boise State. Until then, if the Utes are even a decent team they
Right on PAC man and mindgames. Just like under exercising, the Utes will be
under-prepared for conference play.
The Utes owned us 4 yrs straight in football! I can't wait to see us meet
in basketball this year. It sounds like their squad is immensely better this
year. It should be a very exciting game and I can't wait!
I didn't know it was possible for an NAIA school to play a sanctioned game
against an NCAA (much less a D1) school. These are two classifications that have
no business being on the same floor together. Embarrassing.
Now this is a real schedule for the mighty Utah BB team to flex their muscle and
strength:"Evergreen State (Nov. 8), UC Davis (Nov. 15), Grand
Canyon (Nov. 21), Lamar (Nov. 22), Savannah State (Nov. 23), Ball State (Nov.
27), Idaho State (Dec. 10), Texas State (Dec. 19), St. Katherine (Dec.
28)"You've got to be kidding! Oh, silly me. I forgot! It
doesn't matter...They're in the PAC 12.
What is NAIA, a high school league? Way to go utes. Really BIG win.
This was far more a financial transaction than an athletic event.
After losing to Sacrament State and Cal Northridge last year in preseason on
their home floor, the utes have fashioned themselves with a less challenging
preseason schedule... Great call utes... pile up those impressive naia wins, I
am sure that that will catch the eyes of the selection committee come March. I
also suspect that it will cause the big bad pac12 foes to shake in their boots.
Regardless of who they play, to beat a team by 84 points is unreal, give them
credit for playing a solid game, heck some teams can't beat these NAIA
teams, look at Utah a few years ago losing to Southwest Baptist! This program is
on the rise and even though their schedule sucks and they probably won't go
to the tournament, they need momentum and they just need to get into a
postseason tournament even it's the CBI. You can tell this team is way more
athletic than last year's team, I'm excited to see what they can do
this season especially Wright.
Watching the end of that Oregon game after this game was over, that Moser kid is
gonna be a handful. Lots of speed and skill on that team, but not a lot of the
size inside they had last year. It'll be fun to see how all the
conference's teams develop their play by January.
Agree with PAC Man.This schedule is pathetic.ESPN had an
article about the 10 worst schedules in basketball and here is what they had to
say:Utah Utes"Toughest: at Boise State (Dec. 3), BYU
(Dec. 14) Next-toughest: Fresno State (Dec. 7) The rest:
Evergreen State (Nov. 8), UC Davis (Nov. 15), Grand Canyon (Nov. 21), Lamar
(Nov. 22), Savannah State (Nov. 23), Ball State (Nov. 27), Idaho State (Dec.
10), Texas State (Dec. 19), St. Katherine (Dec. 28) After struggling
for most of the season, Utah won four of its final five games last spring and
entered the offseason full of enthusiasm about the 2013-14 campaign. Reaching
the NCAA tournament, however, will be darn near impossible with a schedule that
includes just one true road game (at Boise State) and only two contests against
likely tourney-bid contenders (Boise State and BYU). Playing a weak schedule the
past two seasons made sense. But the Utes should’ve stepped it up a bit
this season."Beating schools by 100 points won't empress
anybody and won't make Utah PAC-10.2 contenders. It's great to be in
the "Conference of Champions" but this is embarrassing.
Wright's gonna be a fun player to watch.
Impressive win. And for those who make fun of Utah's schedule, you people
made fun of the schedule last year. And guess who had the most top 100 RPI wins
of anyone in the state?The Pac 12 University of Utah UtesSo either the other local teams had terrible schedules as well, or their teams
are just inept at beating any good teams.I think we'll be 5-7th
in the Pac 12 this year. Excited for the season.Go Utes
"Facing an outmanned NAIA Division II team from the Cascade Collegiate
Conference, the Utes cruised to a 128-44 victory over Evergreen State."Way to challenge yourselves Utes. Next game, why don't you play
East H.S. Now that would be a real test.