Utah Jazz: 'Long season' ahead if Jazz don't turn things around

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  • nvfan Cedar City, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 4:46 p.m.

    Let see, we are lacking offensive firepower yet we have big men that can defend. How could the Jazz better their position with minimal risk. Well I hear that Chicago may be open to filling a similar need with a player named Jimmer Fredette. I know the Jazz are afraid of the political upheaval that this player could cause, but just wait until the Jazz Fans get tired of losing with the current lineup. Personally, I see little downside and a ton of upside. A one year trial at a bargain price sounds good to me. Until a team really gives him a solid chance to play and be successful we will never know the what if.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 3:28 p.m.

    Once this young team gets a few wins under their belt, their mentality and confidence will change (improve) and the wins will start coming with more consistency. Until that happens more patience will be needed.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 3:19 p.m.

    @ Fortydam:

    Corbin has to assume part of the responsibility as to how the team performs. The article said...
    "The Jazz coach is hesitant (to try different lineups) because he prefers not to use players out of their natural positions."

    That basically tells me Corbin doesn't yet have what it takes to get the most out a young, inexperienced team. In his situation, a coach has to be flexible and open to all possibilities. At this point, they have nothing to lose by trying other options... until they are able to figure out what works best in various situations. Obviously, that hasn't happened yet.

    As fans, all we can do is hope and encourage.

    @ goforit:

    Never say never.

  • Man in Charge Chihiuahua, 00
    Nov. 8, 2013 2:44 p.m.

    Tanking for a Superstar is a long lesson but a good one.

  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 1:46 p.m.

    Does the Jazz have a team? I thought they sold their players.

  • goforit Provo, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 1:43 p.m.

    The Jazz are absolutely the worst team in the NBA and Burke won't change that. These young guys don't have it. They are all role players not stars. Stars show it from the beginning ie Damian Lillard. Sorry Jazz will be lucky to win 15 games not the 20 I predicted before the season. They are never going to contend for title again while they are in Utah.

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 1:36 p.m.

    Ty has to work with what he has and admittedly, the front office hasn't given him much to work with. But Ty has also been consistently failing in the two major areas in which a coach needs to succeed.

    Player development: I cannot think of one player that has taken a step to the next level under his watch and most have gotten worse. Hayward has the skills to be an all-star and he will be someday - for another coach. Kanter, Favors, and Burks have all had the normal improvements you would expect with increased minutes but none have taken any kind of major step forward.

    Team performance: Ty hasn't shown the ability to make the most of the talent he has at his disposal. For 20 years, Jerry Sloan teams consistently performed better than projected. His coaching enabled the team to out-perform expectations. He maximized his talent. Corbin has been at or below expectations every season. His teams consistently under-perform.

    So he has failed as a teacher for individual players and as a coach of the collective team. What else is there?

  • cowboy99 South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 1:32 p.m.


    Um yeah definitely not running the same offense as Sloan.

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 1:27 p.m.

    @jazz source
    I agree with your thoughts on Favors. I'm getting a little concerned that he is not taking a more aggressive approach in his game and seems to be in lala land at times. I believe in his potential and hope with the minutes he gets this year he will step up and be the man. It is a little more concerning now that he inked his new deal with the Jazz and we are hitched for another 4 years. It's way too early for me to be getting over anxious yet. He still needs a lot of playing time and I still believe he will bust out to be a great player. I think it's all mental with him.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 12:39 p.m.

    The article points out the run in the Boston game began when Derrick Favors went out.

    I understand and believed he never would be an offensive juggernaut. What is really bothersome to me is that he is coasting and drifting mentally for long periods of time during games. Despite his double double he could have easily had much better stats. Not to mention he absolutely has nothing offensively. He missed 3-5 shots inside 5 feet.

    He needs to and should be a defensive rebounding machine and he could do it easily but he seems lost in my opinion. Does not bode well considering he has spent time with Malone. Puts more of the onus and problem on Favors himself. His stats aren't better and the last couple of games worse than last year when adjusted for minutes played.

    It will be sad if these guys don't make progress.

    Our PG duo is the statistically the worst in the NBA. Look it up on any stats website. The worst.

    Hurry up and get well Burke.

  • Little Andy Tremonton, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 11:09 a.m.

    Yes Corbin IS to blame. He is the one calling the names of players to play. Don't play Tinsley/Lucas at all. Playing the bear he would be better off..

  • fortydam OREM, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 11:02 a.m.

    Blaming Corbin with this point guard debacle is outrageous. They're running the same offense that Jerry ran in Utah for years. They are however not running it with John Stockton. Corbin has been ask to coach with more than five different lousy point guards. Neto showed more promise in the one Summer league game than any of the other guards. This team has very little talent past the first five players, so changing coaches would add to the circus.

  • Morgan Duel Taylorsville, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 10:39 a.m.

    I watched the Houston LA game last night to compare LA vs Utah. The difference I saw was LA had better outside shooting. Why is it the Jazz never have Consistant outside Shooters??

  • bdjedi28 West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 10:39 a.m.

    I love the Jazz and I am glad that they decided to go with the 'youth movement'. But man, this is painful to watch. The biggest problem I see is that we don't have enough legit scorers on the team. Favors is not a legitimate threat to score on his own and for as big as he is, he posts up so far away from the basket that he can't get any easy scores. Kanter has put up a lot of points, but once teams start to focus on boxing him out on the offensive boards his numbers will drop. Burks is an awesome slasher, but his jumper leaves something to be desired. Hayward can be a big time scorer, but since he is the only one teams put their best defender on him and neutralize his potential. Long story short: It is going to be a long and painful season to watch, but hopefully it will be worth it in the end.

  • UteNationAlum Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 8:42 a.m.

    I didn't realize we are the only winless team in the NBA. Let the Andrew Wiggins/Jabari Parker Sweepstakes begin!!!

  • gehelmke Bastrop, TX
    Nov. 8, 2013 8:30 a.m.

    Tinsley is old and slow...can't defend...can't drive....can't shoot.
    Lucas' only claim to fame is that his father was a great NBA player...He's been trying to make it in the NBA for a number of years...your clssic "wannabe".

    We have a talented point guard named Burke, who has a bum finger.
    We also have a talented point guard named Neto playing in Spain because the Jazz hierarchy doesn't want to hurt the Spanish teams feelings by buying out the kid's Spanish contract.

    Meanwhile we have a young ship without a rudder suiting up and taking the court.....This point guard situation is untenable. Only thing worse would be to have an inept coach....but, oh yeah, they've got that too, don't they?

    Can't help but wonder if Lindsey is going to just live with this situation, or take some action to improve it....He appears to be putting a heck of a load on Burke's back...and a bit of a load on Williams, Rush, and Evans as well....