Why women don’t have to objectify themselves on Oct. 31

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  • Hank Pym SLC, UT
    Oct. 31, 2013 11:57 a.m.

    per Bob A. Bohey

    Agreed. I'm not a fan of Halloween. That said, I can see the wisdom of letting your "darkside" out every so often and blow off steam.

    I'm not surprised the DN would point out the potential downfalls of being too carnal on Halloween. Will we see an article in Late Nov about the dangers of gluttony? I doubt it.

  • Katie Elizabeth Provo, UT
    Oct. 30, 2013 1:16 p.m.

    I love this article because shaming them is definitely the best way to encourage young women to develop a healthy love and respect for their bodies. Since respect and modesty is objectively defined by one person, these women must have none.

  • Bob A. Bohey Marlborough, MA
    Oct. 30, 2013 12:45 p.m.

    A line from the movies Stripes came to mind as I read this. "Lighten up Francis".

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 30, 2013 11:48 a.m.

    "not in being ogled by every male in the room at a party but in knowing what we have to offer them — our hearts, our minds and our personalities"?


    Hearts, minds and personalities while important are not the full package, they aren't enough, specially to a man. A man's attraction to a woman is mostly visual.

    Take away the looks that women bring to the table, and men would feel mostly empty. This in innate. Short of genetic reprogramming it wont be changed.

  • Drum Fort Drum, NY
    Oct. 29, 2013 8:38 p.m.

    Agree 100% The VS stores with their larger than life posters hanging up with completely nude and partially nude women is deemed appropriate. Yet, if I go in and put on the same lingerie and stand next to these posters, I would be forced to put clothes on, kicked out of the store and probably banned from that mall all together for being inappropriate. Such a contradiction. The reason why women dress like that is because they are trying to compete with other women. I did almost every Halloween, sadly. I knew that any party or event we went to all of the women would be dressed as a sexy something. I didn't want to be the odd one out, and I didn't want my date to be oogling after everyone else and feel ugly because I wasn't dressed sexy enough. Are those guys any good, and should I have worried about what they thought? Absolutely not. But I did, and I'm ashamed I did. But, that is why women do it. If men weren't visual but respectful, and if women weren't judgmental or competitive I think costumes would be fun, not trashy.

  • Wingnut1 USA, UT
    Oct. 29, 2013 4:15 p.m.

    I agree with this article 100%. People say there is "no harm" in being "immodest". Would you say there is harm in pornography? I hope you would say so because even "scientific" studies are coming out showing the dangers of pornography. "immodesty" does the same thing to the mind as pornography does, just maybe not as extreme depending on the amount shown, but it is the same principle. I completely agree that women are for much more than just being looked at, but the best way for them to be viewed in the respectful way is if they are wearing respectful clothing. Girls can tell guys to just "control" their minds all they want while they walk around with little clothing, but it's not as easy as that. Being modest definitely helps them to control their mind. How selfish is it to ask a guy to control his mind when the girl isn't willing to be modest? Why should he put forth the effort if she won't? It's a two way street :)

  • DaniPhotog Falls Church, VA
    Oct. 29, 2013 3:11 p.m.

    Why do we have to slut shame women? Let women express themselves how they wish, especially when there is no real harm done. And why is there no mention of men's sexual costumes? Human Breathalizer stating "blow me" at the crotch? Totally classy and appropriate. Women are not defined by our bodies. By shaming women for showing skin (which you find inappropriate, but many others don't' even blink at)just reinforces that idea that women are only for sex. Her skirt is above her knees. She wants to have sex with someone. You can see cleavage. She wants to have sex with someone. Women are for much more than just being looked at....no matter if they are dressed as nuns or sexy vampires.

  • MariNace Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 29, 2013 2:23 p.m.

    I think we should re-think both the +/- connotations of having the freedom to wear whatever, since you focus on the negative and with unflattering labels. Americans are fortunate to have the choice to celebrate/accept all forms of expression. Think of the Saudi women who have no freedoms. They might have issue with your costume. One womans provocative is anothers conservative. Take Brazil, a womans body is something considered beautiful. You will see all ages on the beach in tiny bikinis. Are the 70 year-olds doing this to be sexy? No, they do this cause they love their bodies and their culture celebrates that. You need to take into account cultural latitudes in standards.
    Women in India live in fear of rape as they walk home from work. We as American women have freedoms that others dont, and protection to our freedoms. The fact that we can dress in whatever fashion without being raped is a testament to our countr and ability to accept all standards/beliefs. Which is more of an object? Women being able to dress how she wants, or women being told what to wear by males because they have no rights as objects?

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 29, 2013 1:00 p.m.

    There is nothing wrong with "immodest" costumes. Halloween is fun and if women want to dress up in fun costumes, that is perfectly fine.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Oct. 29, 2013 12:22 p.m.

    When creative costumes are either hard to design or hard to execute women can always turn to the attention grabbing immodesty. Men pander for that and women want that attention, else why do it. Those women who want attention yet remain modest will find a way and put the effort into it. It's not much different than if I had a really clever costume or if I paraded around not wearing much; as a man I'd certainly get the looks and attention I was after either way.

  • Downtime Saint George, UT
    Oct. 29, 2013 11:56 a.m.

    But the women crave the attention. Objectification is exactly what they are aiming for; and men are more than happy to grant the women's wish.