Utah football: Ute QB Travis Wilson hopeful that banged-up hand will be healed by end of week

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  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Oct. 31, 2013 11:01 a.m.


    This might be a bit hard for you to grasp but throwing and running are two different things. Running is mostly a natural and inate ability that is instinctual and depends almost completely on talent. Throwing a ball on the otherhand is a skill. Certainly there is some natural ability involved, such as arm strength, but throwing well is a practiced and learned skill.

    Taysom had a serious knee injury and was not able to practice and refine his throwing nearly enough in the off season because of an inability to run and plant, etc. Once healthy he was able to use his natural running ability but still needed time to recover his throwing skills.

    It really isn't a hard thing to figure out but it appears you were struggling with it so I thought I'd help you out.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 30, 2013 8:17 p.m.

    @Marked it Down

    As pathetic as Taysom was to start the season, Wilson's last two games were much, much worse.

    And let's not forget, Taysom started the season recovering from season-ending knee surgery after having only started two games as a freshman.


    Apparently Tysom's knee injury effected is passing it didn't effect his running since he had over 500 yards rushing against Texas. Usually with a knew injury it's your running ability not passing ability that suffers, but I guess they do things differently in Provo.

    Nice analysis, but at least you didn't blame the rain. Oh wait, never mind.

    Wilson's throwing hand that is injured, he shouldn't be playing. I thought we had PAC-12 depth at QB with Shultz, apparently not. I guess it could be worse, they could have thrown Manning into the mess and ruined his redshirt.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Oct. 30, 2013 7:02 a.m.

    Marked it Down...

    "And let's not forget, Taysom started the season recovering from season-ending knee surgery after having only started two games as a freshman."

    Pretty amazing how most people have forgotten these things.

    Sure hope Wilson recovers soon. Residents of Uteville are having their annual meltdown again. Another bowl-less season will not set well with the loyal fans.

    I love football season, there's nothing better than Ute football and the drama of it all.

    "It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year"

    Go Utes!

    And how them Top 30 (or better) Cougars!

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    Oct. 29, 2013 4:46 p.m.

    Since the Stanford game, Wilson is

    Arizona - 3 of 9 (33%), 15 yards, 1 TDs, 2 int, 39.6 rating, 17 yards rushing, 0 TDs
    So Cal - 5 of 14 (36%), 51 yards, 0 TD, 2 int, 37.7 rating, 42 yards rushing, 0 TDs

    Taysom's absolute worst game, from a passing efficiency perspective, was

    Texas - 9 of 26 (34%), 129 yards, 0 TDs, 1 int, 68.6 rating, 259 yards rushing, 3 TDs

    Taysom completed more passes for twice as many yards and only 1/4th as many interceptions in his worst game, than Travis managed in his last two games COMBINED! And that doesn't even consider Taysom's blistering 259 yards rushing and 3 TDs Taysom put up against the Longhorns.

    As pathetic as Taysom was to start the season, Wilson's last two games were much, much worse.

    And let's not forget, Taysom started the season recovering from season-ending knee surgery after having only started two games as a freshman.

  • Gone fishin PAC Country, WA
    Oct. 29, 2013 4:39 p.m.

    The problems go deeper than a hurt hand. It starts with coaching.

    Utah is in steady decline and they peaked in week 6, forgetting that the season is 12 games long and 13 for those who will go to a bowl game.

    Dennis Erickson will be gone after this year and the utes will be looking for a new OC to tutor Johnson if he is still around. Whit's job may be on the line as well.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 29, 2013 3:37 p.m.

    Wynn also used to say he was fine, and we can ALL see he was throwing like Riley Nelson.

    Wilson looked legit even when throwing 3 INTS against Oregon State.

    He even rebounded after the 6 INT, UCLA game by beating Stanford with a QB rating of 139. Which is even more impressive when you consider against Stanford, Hundley had a rating 107 and at home Mannion was 118.

    Wilson first needs to get healthy, then he needs to get the mojo back that he had before the injury.

  • Rose Bowl call yet? Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 29, 2013 2:13 p.m.

    Coach Whit obviously didn't learn anything from the Jordan Wynn fiasco. Simply ignoring injuries or refusing to talk about them publicly won't magically fix the problem.

    Wilson's passing efficiency since the BYU game has been in steady decline. In the last 5 games:

    77/136 (56.6%), 861 yds, 7 TD, 11 INT, 110.61 rating, 98 yds rushing, 0 TD

    Not counting the BYU game, it's even worse, with passing efficiency ratings of 92.71, 138.99, 39.56, and 37.74, with 5 TD and 11 int in the last four games.

    As far as Travis's banged-up hand being healed by the end of week; I wouldn't count on it, despite the rosy picture Whittingham and Wilson will be spinning.

  • Stringer Bell Henderson, NV
    Oct. 29, 2013 1:16 p.m.

    I think I heard him say that last week. As a Ute fan I find it unconscionable for Utah to be in the same sorry QB situation for the past five years with only walk-ons as backups. Everyone howled when McBride used Alex Smith's redshirt and put him in at the end of the season. Alex left a year early and it ended up making no difference.

  • SoCalUte Trabuco Canyon, CA
    Oct. 29, 2013 1:10 p.m.

    Old Guy,
    The best QB that Utah has that can go through his progressions is sitting on the bench.
    His name is Conner Manning. Even the coaches were excited about how he went through his progressions in his first week of practice.
    Somehow the staff believes that experience (no matter how good or bad) is better than talent and ability.
    Utah's best chance at being good offensively is either Cox or Manning

  • pak12thdurmaatt Salt Lake City , UT
    Oct. 29, 2013 10:59 a.m.

    Delusional Utah fans, playing big teams doesn't make you better unless you can win. You can take Idaho State for example. Idaho plays decent team compare to them once in a while but we know what we all think regardless of who they play. Utah is Idaho State of PAC-12 and that's the fact.

    Mark it down! LOL

  • utesgoingdownthehill Salt Lake City , UT
    Oct. 29, 2013 10:15 a.m.

    It looks like Wilson might be back, does that mean Utes going for BCS bowl now. Oh, wait their schedule is so hard they can't win any game.

    I think Utes fan are the only team in the nation that think more game your team loses better it is because it has #4 toughest schedule in the the nation which means more lose = tougher schedule.
    Tough schedule doesn't make your team better, winning the tough schedule makes it. And only reason your schedule is tough because you are the worst team in your own schedule.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Oct. 29, 2013 9:57 a.m.

    Old Guy

    You are spot on. I've noticed that neither Schultz or Wilson look to their 2nd or 3rd option, even when they do have time. They stare right at the reciever they plan to throw too, then throw into coverage. QB play has been horrific the last two weeks.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Oct. 29, 2013 9:49 a.m.

    Even though I'm a hardcore BYU fan, I sincerely wish Travis Wilson (a class act) well for the remainder of the season. And by extension, I do for the Utah team as well. It would be great to see both Utah and BYU (USU as well) represent college football in our state in as positive a way as possible in all remaining games.
    Since we're all done playing each other this season, having the other do well only strengthens each other's strength of schedule, and in turn, each other's rankings. Its time for fans of both programs to start showing a bit more class.

  • theoldfatguy Magna, UT
    Oct. 29, 2013 9:06 a.m.

    Instead of receiving the ball, immediately staring down the intended receiver, then throwing into double coverage; a better plan would be having an offensive line that could protect for a few seconds,run through some progressions (I've heard quarterbacks at places other than the U do that), then throw to an open receiver. It seems works so much better.

    Having an offensive line that blocks and can establish a running game also helps the passing game.

  • Silent Lurker Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 29, 2013 8:30 a.m.

    How many glove wearing QB are playing in NCAA division I? or in the NFL? What does this tell you? Really! If a glove were the answer wouldn't everyone be using them?

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    Oct. 29, 2013 8:20 a.m.

    Stop with the excuses. Fix the problems.

    Both UCF and Houston made the jump this year without a hiccup. UCF is ranked and both teams are X-1 leading their conference. While the Utes jump is the largest in conference competition (more so than TCU to the Big 12) of all the teams to go "up" I don't think the fans want to hear the excuse. Instead of the woe is me attitude, identify the problems and fix them. If the problems can't be fixed by the current staff, go out and find new staff.

    The problems are evident to the fans. Utah needs more depth, more consistency with its coaching (win games like USC and Arizona that the team is supposed to win after knocking out Stanford), and they need to open the play book up during more games.

  • Silent Lurker Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 29, 2013 8:12 a.m.

    When is the Utah coaching staff going to stop covering for Wilson? Seems like we heard the same thing last week. Sure, Wilson claims to be fine, but his throws and decision making show other wise. How could the coaching staff not see this in practice all week? Why wasn't someone else properly prepared as a back up plan? What was the game plan?

    If a ball is thrown correctly it most likely is caught by the receiver not the DB of the other team. Tipped balls are generally poorly placed balls plain and simple. Passes thrown in tight coverage should not be thrown in the first place. If worst comes to worst you have two choices 1) throw the ball out of bounds, or 2)take the sack. How many lame duck passes have we seen Wilson throw this year? How many more? How many bad decisions do the coaches let Wilson make?

    Here's a novel idea how about a backup plan or even a game plan?