Utah executive indicted in alleged $20M Medicare fraud scheme

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  • Think Folks Think Midvale, UT
    Dec. 19, 2013 9:05 a.m.

    Well lets see... A company thats been around for a bit all of a sudden dude decides lets make more money by defrauding the government even though I'm already rich... Or some broke salesmen whose in his twenties gets hired and says I could make more commission by changing doctors notes. These are the two scenarios one is confronted with when rationally and critically looking at this case. Which appears more likely?

  • Reasonable Person Layton, UT
    Oct. 25, 2013 2:51 p.m.


    Really? It's OK to steal, because it's just the big, bad gubmint?
    What kind of morality and ethics IS that?

    Maybe Medicare WOULDN'T be running out, IF providers were more honest. That $13,000 you are charged for an implantable medical device, cost $350 to manufacture in a foreign country YET, so many do not understand the "durable medical devices" tax in the Affordable Care Act.

    YOU all want everyone to pay for their own, and I used to talk like you. That is, until our daughter went into sudden kidney failure and needed a kidney transplant. You'd have wanted her to die, because we didn't have a million dollars laying around?

    And don't say car wash or spaghetti dinner. Those are false "feely-good" things that don't cme close to helping one bit.

    You know who paid for the transplant for a 22-year-old? MEDICARE! Bless it!

    You talk like you, until IT happens to you. IT will happen, guaranteed We are all here together, as I was taught in real Sunday School.

  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    Oct. 25, 2013 10:49 a.m.


    Classic. You are blaming somebody else for this company committing fraud. Anything else you want to blame on somebody else. Just because there is opportunity to be dishonest doesn't excuse the behavior. There are many companies that could committ fraud, but don't. By your logic if somebody finds a wallet and takes it, you would say "well if you wouldn't have lost your wallet in the first place they wouldn't have stolen it." That is extremely reckless thinking.

    "When is the last time you were defrauded at the grocery store?"

    The grocery store gets defrauded all the time. People write them back checks, do chargebacks on credit card transactions, return merchandise fraudulently, shoplift...

    No matter what system there is, somebody can be defrauded. People are dishonest, but don't place the blame on somebody else.

  • WideAwake Sandy, UT
    Oct. 24, 2013 7:40 p.m.

    @ReasonablePerson and @Zaruski - Two points. First, there wouldn't be any fraud to commit if the government wasn't paying for your neighbor's wheelchair. Why don't we just tell people, "If you want a wheelchair then pay for it yourself". Nobody to defraud there. When is the last time you were defrauded at the grocery store? There will always be Medicare fraud as long as they are involved in this transaction. More regulations won't prevent it.

    Secondly, the real scandal here is that Medicare is broke and is borrowing from yet unborn citizens to pay for goodies for your neighbors. People wanting a handout today hire political hit men to steal, I mean, take from you and I and give it to them. How are they not the truly greedy ones? How are they not the ones looking out for their own benefits?

  • FairGuy Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 24, 2013 5:00 p.m.

    I wasn't aware he was found guilty? By reading all of your comments you'd think the trial was over.

  • Zaruski SLC, UT
    Oct. 24, 2013 4:48 p.m.

    Oh look, companies committing massive fraud again. Better cut their taxes and kill regulations some more!

  • Reasonable Person Layton, UT
    Oct. 24, 2013 3:02 p.m.

    Gee, KSL and the Deseret News quoted Jacob Kilgore recently as complaining about "Obamacare"

    "Benefit payments could be spread out over time, under a specific provision of the bill. Jake Kilgore, with Orbit Medical, says, "They're essentially asking companies like Orbit Medical to be credit--to be banks. And with the way the credit climate is right now, that's going to be very difficult to do."
    Kilgore's concern for Orbit's business and future patient benefits is shared in a much more general sense across the nation."

    Yeah, Kilgore. You were REALLY concerned about YOUR own benefits.