N.J. Gov. Chris Christie ends challenge to same-sex marriage

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  • Bob K porland, OR
    Oct. 23, 2013 1:30 a.m.

    Murray, UT
    Christie is a great speaker, but he is not a conservative. This is just another indication that he plays both sides of the argument to win elections......

    I would correct that to "Christie is a charmer who is loyal to his base, but not to the point of wasting his energy and political capital on beating a dead horse"
    Unlike you, Christie is in a State that overwhelmingly favors equality.
    Unlike you, he understands that sticking to unwinnable positions to prove one is conservative is not conservatism at all, but obstructionism.

    The problem with the Tea Party and too many "conservatives" today is that they feel that demolishing the opposition, even at the cost of damaging the country, is a conservative position: actually, it is a radical and destructive position. Some of you are trying to "conserve" a myth of 1960 White-run America, a fool's errand.

    Please see my comment, above.

  • Badgerbadger Murray, UT
    Oct. 22, 2013 8:42 p.m.

    Christie is a great speaker, but he is not a conservative. This is just another indication that he plays both sides of the argument to win elections.

  • Bob K porland, OR
    Oct. 22, 2013 5:22 p.m.

    This is a smart politician, even if I don't like much of what he does. He is not living in 1960, like too many republicans, and I doubt he cared about Gays marrying, as he is not one to waste time on stuff that is not his business.

    Christie was blocking equality because he is loyal to the catholic organizations and voters who put him in office. His wife and daughters also would have faced problems at school and church if he had capitulated.

    An astute commenter on a recent thread here wrote something like "If the lds church had not violated scripture to put over Prop 8, we would be in a better condition"

    Although evangelicals make lots of ugly noise, the real, effective, and consistent opposition to equality has been the lds and catholic churches. Both have backed off a bit, just as the tide has turned, and equality seems inevitable.

    Some of us wish that churches would talk more to God, and let Him show you how to integrate your own Gay children into your churches and life fully, and let outsiders live as they feel called to do.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 22, 2013 4:38 p.m.

    'Gallup Poll: Majority of Americans support gay marriage' - By Elizabeth Stuart - DSNews - 05/20/2011

    'For the first time since Gallup started studying the issue in 1996, the polling organization found a majority of Americans favor legalizing same-sex marriage.
    Fifty-three percent of Americans answered yes to the question...'

    'Poll: Support for gay marriage UP among Catholics' – By Jillian Rayfield – Salon – 03/08/13

    “Catholic voters are leading American voters toward support for same-sex marriage,” Peter A. Brown, the assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute, wrote in a statement.'

    'A Majority of Young Republicans Support Gay Marriage' - —By Tim Murphy – Mother Jones – 03/08/2013

    ' On Thursday, Jan van Lohuizen and Joel Benenson, top campaign pollsters respectively for Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, released a new study on attitudes toward marriage equality, based on 2012 exit poll data. The short of it: Even young Republicans think conservatives are fighting a losing battle.'

  • Contrariusier mid-state, TN
    Oct. 22, 2013 3:26 p.m.

    I've lived in TN for most of my life. I was THRILLED when I read about this TN lawsuit yesterday. States need to stop ignoring the Full Faith and Credit clause of our US Constitution, and that's what this suit will mainly address.

    Nationwide recognition of same-sex marriage is coming, folks. Get used to the idea.