No guarantee Utah will get back all money spent to reopen national parks

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  • Unreconstructed Reb Chantilly, VA
    Oct. 22, 2013 2:29 p.m.

    #1 Utah sends congressional delegates to Washington, D.C.

    #2 Several of these delegates are front-and-center in the federal shutdown.

    #3 Utah realizes that the federal shutdown is costing the state millions in tourism revenue.

    #4 Utah wants a federal bailout for the situation created by #1 and #2.


    How about this: I'll agree to have my tax dollars reimburse Utah for the economic damages the Mike Lee-led shutdown inflicted on it if Utah will pay back my state for the economic damages inflicted on it by the Mike Lee-led shutdown. Sounds about fair to me.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Oct. 22, 2013 11:41 a.m.

    Even if we don't get back the money spent it was still VERY worth it. I had to cancel two hotel nights and 3 days of spending in Moab due to the closure, and I'm just a local. It's worth it to the state to pay to keep them open so if there's no refund it's no big deal. And kudos to our state for having weathered the economic storm so well, we were actually able to fund this kind of spending!

    Shame on Senator Lee for having a hand in shutting things down.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Oct. 22, 2013 11:09 a.m.

    Re: "No guarantee Utah will get back all money spent to reopen national parks"

    Here's a guarantee you can take to the bank -- Utah will NOT get back all the money spent to reopen our parks.

    ANY resources foolishly dropped into that gaping federal maw become the property of feckless political hacks, to do with as THEY see fit.

    If any Utahn actually believes political hacks from the Obama regime's National Park Service give two hoots for what anyone in Utah thinks, I've got a real estate opportunity involving an historic bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to talk to you about.

    Just another in a long string of proofs that we need to get the feds out of the Western lands absentee landlord/rent-collector business.

  • 2 bit Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 22, 2013 10:10 a.m.

    Re: "Ha ha ha. What a hoot! Utah spends money it doesn't have"...
    Who said it was money we didn't have?

    My understanding is that it was from the "rainy day fund". Which is money we DO have (in the bank, right now, for a rainy day like this).

    I don't get why you get such a laugh out of your false assumption.


    IMO if we get the money back that's great. If we don't... we at least did what we needed to do to protect our economy and the tourist dollars that come into the State.

    The money wasn't given to specific people or businesses, it was given to the Federal Government for the permission to open our National Parks. It helped our whole economy.

    You can play politics with it if that makes you jolly... but it helped the whole State (and I think we will get the money back one way or another).

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 22, 2013 9:55 a.m.

    If Senator Lee and the tea party did not shut down the government, this would not have been a cost or expense whatsoever. For tea party advocates to support this wasteful spending is hypocrisy.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Oct. 22, 2013 7:57 a.m.

    What's in a name?

    Here a million...there a million...pretty soon we're talking some serious change...


    The Gov's right hand man "...Spendlove..." reports...

    "...We're still trying to figure that out now..."...

    Spendlove adds...

    "The specifics of how that money would be refunded was left up in the air, to be frank," Spendlove said. "It's not clear right now..."... would seem that if "loves-to-spend" was spending his own money...he would have figured this refund stuff all out BEFORE he cut the check...

    Who knows?

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Oct. 22, 2013 6:11 a.m.

    So, if I read this right

    - The economic impact of the parks being closed is $25 million per week
    - The state spent $1 million to keep the parks open
    - The state wants all its money back.

    I feel that the parks should be Federal revenue neutral. Fees to enjoy the parks should cover the cost to run the parks. Either raise fees, lower services or have those who reap the benefits cover the difference.

  • Ricardo Carvalho Provo, UT
    Oct. 22, 2013 5:36 a.m.

    As I recall, Utah is running a $200 million surplus this year. Somehow I think that figured into their calculations when determining whether this was a fiscally sound action.

    Too responsible...

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 22, 2013 2:20 a.m.

    This was definitely a give away of public funds. The Governor should have spoke out against the shut down instead of funding it.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 7:20 p.m.

    Ha ha ha. What a hoot! Utah spends money it doesn't have (wonder which account it can from) and then worries later that it won't get paid back by Uncle Sam.

    Too rich! They're not a lot smarter on Capitol Hill in SLC than on Capitol Hill in Washington DC.

    Too funny............