Sebelius should testify now

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  • happy2bhere clearfield, UT
    Oct. 23, 2013 3:04 p.m.


    You are a lot like George Will. You say all that needs to be said using very few words. Keep it up.


    I'm sure glad someone who posts here remembers the "Peter Principle". Because to me that exemplifies this entire administration beginning with Obama himself, who actually has probably risen several levels above his competancy.

    Now my question. How do relatively conservative/Republican states like Kansas and Arizona elect govenors like Sebelius and Napalatono in the first place?

  • wrz Phoenix, AZ
    Oct. 22, 2013 10:18 p.m.

    "But, keep in mind that Sebelius and Obama didn't design the website or write the code."

    Of course they didn't. But they let the contract to get the job done. What they forgot to do was to follow up to make sure what was being developed was what was wanted and the it worked efficiently. Or they should have let another contract to someone to do that phase of the project for them. But they did neither. Sebalius should be fired and Obama should be impeached.

    @There You Go Again:
    "Shutting down the government...didn't work out so well for republicans..."

    The shutdown was George Bush's fault... as is the Obamacare roll-out debacle. Haven't you heard?

  • Star Bright Salt Lake City, Ut
    Oct. 22, 2013 9:11 p.m.

    "Who was it that hired the contractor in a NO BID process? Who was it that defined the requirements for the web application? Who was it that monitored the progress of the web application prior to roll out?"

    I'd like the answer to these questions and I would also like to know why it was outsourced to a Canadian company that had several problems in it's recent history, even being fired by the Canadians?

  • Star Bright Salt Lake City, Ut
    Oct. 22, 2013 9:06 p.m.

    She's only testifying because there was so much bad press (from the late show comedians and some dems as well as Conservatives) because she had a gala to go to in Boston, but didn't have time to answer questions from the elected members of congress who represent the citizens.
    We'll see if she takes the 5th.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 22, 2013 8:58 p.m.

    Also, another problem might be government's obsession with "open source" software. One development project I worked on in state government had a choice - proprietary (e.g. Oracle) or open source software (e.g. Java). The proprietary solution could have been implemented within one year. The open source solution is still not (5 years ago!) functonal. I don't know of course if this was an issue with ACA, but it might be. I look forward to hearing Sebelius' testimony.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Oct. 22, 2013 4:24 p.m.

    News Flash:

    10212013 (yesterday's news)

    HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius is expected to testify before Congress about the rocky Obamacare rollout a week from Wednesday.

  • E Sam Provo, UT
    Oct. 22, 2013 3:10 p.m.

    I see nothing wrong with asking Secretary Sibelius to report on why the roll-out was so glitchy and what's being done to fix it. Sure. Just let's not overreact.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Oct. 22, 2013 2:18 p.m.

    "In ANY normal corporation the vice president over the failed product will be held accountable and most likely lose his/her job...but not with the Obama administration."

    You mean like this?

    "Brownie, you're doing a heckufa job"

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 22, 2013 12:31 p.m.

    Sec. Sebelius is unfortunately the personification of the Peter Principle: promote someone to the level of their incompetence.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 22, 2013 12:28 p.m.

    "There's nothing here to see, folks. Move along" That has been the administration's response to Fast and Furious, Benghazi, IRS corruption, a sky rocketing sovereign debt, saber rattling in Syria before Putin took the initiative, the ACA sign up fiasco and other egregious government incompetence and waste. Accountability is a concept that the White House has yet to embrace.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Oct. 22, 2013 12:22 p.m.

    Fast and Furious scandal + Benghazi scandal + IRS scandal + Obamacare rollout nightmare.... Eric Holder + Hilary Clinton + Barack Obama + Kathleen Sebelius all responsible but NO accountability for anything. The Obama administration is without question the MOST corrupt and secretive administration in recent memory going all the way back to Nixon. There is no question Kathleen Sebelius is responsible to the disaster that is Obamacare yet you can bet she will NOT be held to account for anything. Who was it that hired the contractor in a NO BID process? Who was it that defined the requirements for the web application? Who was it that monitored the progress of the web application prior to roll out? In ANY normal corporation the vice president over the failed product will be held accountable and most likely lose his/her job...but not with the Obama administration. The Obama administration along with its media (CNN, NBC, ...) won't even admit that there is a problem let alone attempt to fix it. America is living in denial and the ugly consequences are just beginning to show. How long can a sinking ship stay afloat?

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 22, 2013 12:00 p.m.

    Democrats believe in good government - it's absolutely incumbent upon Obama and Sebelius to get this fixed and be accountable.

    Republicans believe government is (almost always) horrible, bad, a waste, evil. These technical problems feed right into their narrative.

    Obama's re-election team annihilated Romney's election team in terms of information technology and analytics, which is supremely ironic, but it's time to repeat the performance and get these ACA problems solved. Period.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Oct. 22, 2013 8:38 a.m.

    We're going to escalate this silliness to Benghazi paranoia level in short order, I believe.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Oct. 22, 2013 8:34 a.m.

    "What difference does it make now"? Hillary Clinton. "I will not answer any of your questions and I respectfully claim my 5th amendment rights" Lois Lerner. "This is nothing more than a witch hunt." Eric Holder. All famous quotes from other Obama administration "leaders" testifying before congress. Arrogance and irresponsibility are what they ALL have in common. How dare you ask me to be accountable and to tell the truth?

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Oct. 22, 2013 8:21 a.m.

    Shutting down the government...didn't work out so well for republicans...

    What to do...What to do...

    Hey...let's attack the implementation of the ACA...

    Yeah...that will do it...

    But what if that doesn't do it...

    Not to worry...

    We'll just keep attacking until we find something...make that anything...that does it...


  • louie Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 22, 2013 7:49 a.m.

    Give me a Break. A little overreacting don't you think? Changing insurance companies is not always fun and easy. On average we, at work, change health insurance companies every two years. We have to spend at least two hours receiving an orientation on the new options. We then receive forms to fill out to formalize our agreement. After submitting the forms, the process takes about four to six weeks.

    By the way not all is broken. If one has difficulty with the web site, take the other option, by making a phone call. You can get a live person quicker than when calling the IRS.

    Testifying before Congress, will do little. One journalist tagged Congress as the most "under achieving" government body in our Country's history.

  • ECR Burke, VA
    Oct. 22, 2013 6:25 a.m.

    "A cascade of glitches in a major online college application program has frustrated prospective students across the country and prompted several universities to push back their fall deadlines, exposing vulnerabilities in the nation’s college admissions system."

    So reads the opening paragraph of an artcile found in the this morning's Washington Post. I'm waiting to hear about what a "train wreck" higher education is and calls to aboilish it altogether.

  • ECR Burke, VA
    Oct. 22, 2013 5:24 a.m.

    "But the secretary of Health and Human Services says she will do so when her office and Congress can find a "mutually agreeable date.""

    I guess you guys don't get the latest news, being way out there in the Rocky Mountains (and before you all start sending angry darts my way, I am just kidding about that - I'm a native of the Rocky Mountains). The meeting has been scheduled for next Wednesday.

    "Interestingly, she has found time to appear on Jon Stewart’s “The Daily Show” on Comedy Central, but the schedule seems so tight when it comes to making an accounting before the nation’s elected representatives."

    I think it is even more interesting that a few days after the Congress so graciously allowed our government to re-open, their first order of business is not to hold hearings to understand how they let the shutdown occur, but to ask the Secretary why she hasn't fixed computer glitches, as if she is personally responsible for those glitches and can personally fix the problem.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Oct. 22, 2013 4:23 a.m.

    Absolutely Sebelius should testify.

    And she and Obama have the ultimate responsibility.

    But, keep in mind that Sebelius and Obama didn't design the website or write the code.

    Reality is that the Govt contracted with experts, a group of I believe, 6 private corporations ( I could list them, but it serves no purpose).

    Yes, the Govt,including Obama and Sebelius are ultimately responsible. However, there are a group of private companies that should have some major egg on their face for their part in this failure.

    These companies have, for the most part, kept off the front page. Lucky for them.

    (Note -If your takeaway from this comment is that I am shifting blame, you need to reread. Obama by default is responsible. Clear enough?)

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 22, 2013 2:12 a.m.

    They have until january 1, 2014. No need to go Hannity yet.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 22, 2013 12:24 a.m.

    "They are a symbol of the problems inherent with government-run systems as compared with the private sector." Not true. The failure rate for large software development projects is distressingly high - about 50%. This is true for both private and public sectors. Software engineering is a tough job. Of particular importance is the testing of the application. The job of the testers is to break the system. For that reason the testers should NOT be the developers of the system. I'll wager that a lot of the problem comes from inadequate testing. I have experience with software development, and the failures I was involved with often stumbled in this phase.

    Unless there is some simple fix, which I doubt, this application may be DOA. It could actually be easier to start over, relying on older technology like the phone in the meantime.