Faith-based dormitories create community, draw fire

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  • SamStone Pittsburgh, PA
    Oct. 21, 2013 7:40 p.m.

    It doesn't matter how much the students like living there. Federal housing standards say you can't discriminate on the basis of race, religion or national origin. Let's say you established an white-only dorm. It would not matter that if residents "absolutely love it." In the very same way, these "faith" dorms violate equal protection laws. Students need to learn with one another of all faiths on equal terms. If they can't do that, they need to enroll in a religious (non-public) university.

  • Gildas LOGAN, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 11:03 p.m.

    I should have thought that separate dorms for "religious" people would be welcomed by those who are upset about hearing people talk about God, commandments etc. This makes me think it is a "witch hunt" by atheists not simply wanting their own space but forbidding it to others. You can't have it both ways. Where can students speak freely if not among themselves?

    When I was residing at university there was no such separation but there was enforcement of rules forbidding disturbances caused by loud music at any time of day or night.

    There was a Christian Union that met freely on campus, just as Socialist societies etc were free to meet. The latter were respected but the Christian Union people were dubbed the "God Squad" by unbelievers. The CU took this in good part, though one Christian challenged an offensive loudly declared "OMG!!" by one student. He simply asked "Who IS your God?" Instead of discussing this interesting question the student froze and faltered: That is a very personal matter.

    It seems that some people can be offended but others cannot.

    I am IN FAVOR of freedom of speech and free discussion.

  • ? SLC, UT
    Oct. 19, 2013 9:27 p.m.

    The whole point of going to college is to further one's education. It is next to impossible, for some, to concentrate when they are uncomfortable with their environment. A student's dorm or room should be a place they can go to focus on what they came to do in the first place, to study. It also needs to be their home, since that is what it is for the semester they are there. Allowing students to be among like minded students with similar values sounds like a good thing and may over all improve the quality of life and learning while away at school.

  • Xbalanque DC, VA
    Oct. 18, 2013 5:23 p.m.

    Considering my college experience years ago at the #1 party school at the time, this would have been a gladly welcomed option.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    Oct. 18, 2013 4:42 p.m.

    Campuses are getting so sleazy these days. I'm so grateful I graduated from BYU. We could practice and express our faith every day.

  • HBZion Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 18, 2013 3:23 p.m.

    What a great idea, faith based dorms. We must fight to keep our freedom to practice religion. This right needs to be broadened through the courts. This and many other law suits defending our religious freedoms should expand not limit the First Amendment.

    Is there a defense fund for the dorms?

  • Trouble Vancouver, WA
    Oct. 18, 2013 2:40 p.m.

    The US Constitution guarantees freedom of religion and freedom of speech. That makes public places, especially public universities, fertile ground where all religion can flourish, not a sterile environment that must be free from religion.

    These faith based dorms require only adherence to behavioral codes that anyone can choose to follow. They do not require a religious affiliation or even a proclaimed belief in God to live there. To say that these dorms are illegal is contradicts federal law.

  • brian of ohio Kent, OH
    Oct. 18, 2013 1:51 p.m.

    true blue -I agree completely. I think the Attorney got his statement 180 backwards. The constitution is for the people so they can live the way they deem best. I go to when the Lord says, the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. Likewise the constitution was made for man[kind] and not man[kind] for the constitution. Somehow these people think that freedom from religion means that the rest of us can't have a place for our religious beliefs anywhere near where they are. If the students want a place where they can live on campus free from the large amount of profanity and other filth on campus, then they should have that option. As a grad student I hear so much profanity it is appalling. I'm not a lawyer, but maybe you can't lawfully say someone can't live there based on religious preference. But you sure should be able to allow students to decide what is appropriate to say, post on walls, and have a room to worship in a basement. A university may usually be government funded, but it is a PUBLIC institution that allows the same government freedoms.

  • The Deuce Livermore, CA
    Oct. 18, 2013 12:43 p.m.

    I love the interest that The Freedom From Religious Foundation shows in this. Now, if the shoe was on the other foot here, they would say that true equality exists. Well, it still does. These schools provide equal housing for all students. The students then have the choice. All is equal and everyone has the ability to exercise their own beliefs. What a novel concept. If you want freedom from religion, don't go to church or watch religious programs. Again, it is your choice and no one is pushing you one way or the other. There will always be people of faith and there will always be people without any faith. Live and let live.

  • Daniel L. Murray, UT
    Oct. 18, 2013 11:36 a.m.

    Hutterite is absolutely correct, we should get the military to throw down their archaic system of uniformitarianism, strip all police officers of their paternal uniformity, and disband and make illegal all forms of association so that each individual may wander the world sharing freely each others thoughts and opinions, unless of course those ideas attract other individuals - then you would be in violation of our new law. So scratch that last bit, we will just wander the world lonely, alone, by our selves, not sharing our ideas.

    I think these dorms are great!

  • trueblue87 Provo, UT
    Oct. 18, 2013 10:33 a.m.

    The attorney for FFRF needs to go back and read the constitution. The first amendment protects religious freedom. It says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" making no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion sounds like the constitution taking into account what people want.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Oct. 18, 2013 9:00 a.m.

    In every aspect of our lives to we increasingly hope to only see ourselves.