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  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 9:44 a.m.

    Re: ". . . if Secretary of the Interior Sally Jewell hadn’t agreed with the proposal, there wouldn’t be a reason to thank anyone."

    Yeah, but I didn't see Sally out looking for ways around the Democrat shutdown. Did you?

    So, we're supposed to thank her for shutting the parks down in the first place, then, doing nothing more than existing inside the Beltway, so that Gov. Herbert could track her down and convince her it's in her political interest to play ball?

    No thanks.

    This is just one more graphic illustration of why we need to get the feds out of the unconcerned, uninvolved, absentee rent-collector business and return Western lands to the people, just like every other state in the Nation.

  • RedShirtMIT Cambridge, MA
    Oct. 21, 2013 8:26 a.m.

    To "JoeBlow" yes, the President has the ability to determine what to shut down. You see, when no budget is passed, it is the Office of Management and Budget that determines what to close and what to keep open. The Office of Management and Budget are part of the Executive Branch, and report to the President. The President can direct to OMB to close things as he sees fit.

  • Baron Scarpia Logan, UT
    Oct. 19, 2013 7:35 a.m.

    If anything, the government shut down should help conservatives recognize the value of government and its direct impact on Utah's economy. Too often, I hear conservatives blast government as unnecessary, wasteful, etc., and yet, when it is shut down -- services from the issuing of federal gun permits to the National Parks to civilian employment at military bases -- suddenly are seen as critical to Utahns' livelihoods and way of life.

    Hopefully, cooler heads will prevail. Utahns should write their conservative representatives and senators and plead with them not to disrupt our government and economy going forward.

    The GOP should be the party of business and little guy -- not the party of economic disruption and government shutdowns all to stop the little guy from getting affordable healthcare.

  • high school fan Huntington, UT
    Oct. 18, 2013 8:01 p.m.

    How confused we are, nobody but the executive branch closed the national parks. We hold all thank the republicans for bringing to light the fact that we have to get serious about what we can and cannot afford. The tea party candidates were elected to do exactly what they did in trying to bring some sense to the actions of government.
    We as a nation cannot afford all that we are trying to be, there is not enough money to afford all of this. Obamacare is just one more thing we cannot afford no matter how well intentioned it might be. Some times people have to take responsibility for themselves.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 18, 2013 3:31 p.m.

    one vote,
    Re: "We gave away millions for a few shops and motels"...
    The compassion for the people affected is amazing.

    Re: "How many teachers would that money have hired"...
    No teachers were losing their jobs or their pay from the shutdown.

    The reason Herbert did it was because the closed parks were effecting the whole State economy (not just a few local people you don't care about).

    It was a good investment. And we will probably get every cent back (when the government opens and pays everybody who didn't work). And even if they don't... it bring in what we put into it and then some from opening those communities for business and what tourists will spend in our economy just in this one weekend alone.

    Thanks for finding the dark lining though.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Oct. 18, 2013 2:31 p.m.

    "The President is the person who chose what to close, and what to keep open. "

    You really think that? So, you think Obama said "bring me a list of all federally run things and I will highlight the ones I want closed"

    I guess when the dislike runs that deep, all logic goes by the wayside.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 18, 2013 1:49 p.m.

    We gave away millions for a few shops and motels. Talk about out of control spending. How many teachers would that money have hired to help education? Senator Lee caused the unnecessary loss.

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    Oct. 18, 2013 12:26 p.m.

    To "Diehl Chantryce" don't blame the Tea Party for closing down the Park Service. That was a choice made by Obama and his administration. During the shutdown in 1997 the Park Service remained open.

    The President is the person who chose what to close, and what to keep open. He did it as punishment to those who opposed him. He said that he was going to punish those who opposed him, and has made good on that promise any chance he has been handed.

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    Oct. 18, 2013 9:23 a.m.

    Who is paying for these billboards? The Reagan billboard company already has the GOP establishment in Utah in their pockets.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 18, 2013 9:15 a.m.

    I would agree we need to thank Sally Jewell IF it was her idea.

    Coming up with the idea and putting it into motion was the active part. Just saying, "OK, we'll take your money"... was the easy part.

    Even if she had said "no"... Herbert would still deserve some praise for even trying. She just said "OK". How hard is that?

    That said... I don't know how heroic Herbert was either. This was pretty much a no-brainer. The National Parks should have never been closed. They PRETEND it was a cost saving measure... but then they spent more to keep them closed than they would to leave them open. And actually hired people to keep people out (when they normally wouldn't have anybody there when it's open). National Parks have never closed in the previous partial government shutdowns... why this time?

    Because the administration wanted to make this shutdown as painful on as many people as possible. THAT is deplorable.

  • Stalwart Sentinel San Jose, CA
    Oct. 18, 2013 6:43 a.m.

    Tea Party response: But... but Obama = bad!

  • ECR Burke, VA
    Oct. 18, 2013 5:57 a.m.

    Excellent comments Diehl. You summed it up perfectly.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Oct. 18, 2013 4:31 a.m.

    My concern is that a small minority are damaging the GOP brand. Unlike some, I want a strong GOP. We need a reasonable GOP to balance the Democrats.

    Our system works best when we have divided government run by reasonable people.

    And, for the most part, the GOP is reasonable. Unfortunately, the minority is large enough that the tail can now wag the dog. (and a large part of the tail, think they ARE the dog)

    We need a GOP who would dance at the thought of $10 in spending cuts to $1 of tax increase.
    Unfortunately, they are forced to play "stupid" to appease the minority wing of the party.

    Until that changes, the GOP will flounder.