More government crises may lie ahead

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  • redshirt007 tranquility base, 00
    Oct. 19, 2013 5:51 p.m.

    The house republicans voted for Styrofoam cups instead of paper cups in the white house just to spite democrats and their "environmental agenda".

    So captain obvious says there will be more problems. Ya.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 19, 2013 11:35 a.m.

    The tea party is irresponsible and reckless.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Oct. 19, 2013 9:52 a.m.

    I'm sure the President won't allow a crisis to go to waste nor will the tea-party Republicans pass up the opportunity to create one.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Oct. 19, 2013 9:36 a.m.

    Republicans were never going to work with Obama on anything. Period.
    Republicans investigated Clinton ad nauseum, and impeached him. Times that by 100 for Obama.
    The election of Obama was unacceptable. On the night of his inauguration, Republican leaders gathered together to discuss strategy to undermine and deny him success on anything.
    How many Republicans ever even took a stand against the birthers?

    Obama learned lessons from the Clinton's attempt to change the healthcare system. Instead of using liberal ideas as a basis he began with a framework devised by conservatives and implemented by a Republican governor. He then stepped back as the framework was filled out in bi-partisan committees--in contrast to the Hillary led effort.

    Btw Ted Cruz favorability among Republicans still outweighs his unfavorability by a significant margin.

  • Mickey Kovars Tampa, FL
    Oct. 19, 2013 9:10 a.m.

    The Republican moderates need an effective spokesman to hit back hard at the Tea Party. After all, the TP has declared war on them -- what will they do? Kneel down and take it? The test case may be McConnell in Kentucky.

    I recommend Chris Christie, although he is probably not available until he gets re-elected as governor. He combines a good, tough personal manner with solid views. He could remind Republicans effectively that the Tea Party's tactics are suicidal and would guarantee Democrat control for the foreseeable future.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Oct. 19, 2013 1:07 a.m.

    I would highly recommend a john Green video on the subject.

    Basically, he points out how gerrymandering (and both parties being guilty of it in whatever state the control) has created the strident nature of Congress. Unless gerrymandering is controlled, the more radical elements of each party will continue to get elected. More of Nancy Pelosi and Jason Chaffetz screaming at each other. Little or no chance of compromise, no respect for the other side as loyal opposition.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Oct. 18, 2013 11:29 a.m.

    "May" is too ambiguous. "DO or "WILL" are probably more accurate. Not that I celebrate that; it's a horrible situation. I've said it before; the country ran better when politicians were reasonable people who could get together socially and hammer out solutions.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 18, 2013 11:24 a.m.

    Roland Kayser:

    I think we need to start distinguishing Tea Party members from Republicans. Your description of their (apparent) strategy is completely accurate, but these are not the same Republicans that have offered a distinct philosophical contrast to Democrats, but recognize the limits of power and are willing to compromise, in much the same way the Founding Fathers did. John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and other regular Republicans I typically disagree with on many issues, but at the end of the day they seem to live in the real world and I don't think they wish the country harm.

    Tea Partiers believe "compromise is for losers" (a t-shirt seen this summer at a national park in Utah), they think there is no difference between Democrats and Republicans, their leaders advocate "defunding the GOP" (Glenn Beck).

    Republicans really should wake up and realize Tea Partiers are NOT Republicans, they really have no allegiance to the Republican party, and are quite willing to submarine interests of their party-of-convenience to accomplish their own objectives, which are radical.

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 18, 2013 8:14 a.m.

    Republicans simply don't have the votes to accomplish what they want to accomplish. The only way they can succeed is to generate a crisis to force their opponents to concede to them. What they are doing undermines every norm in our political system and undermines our system of government. But that seems to be exactly what they have in mind.

    The Tea Party is not in any way conservative. They are radical revolutionaries, the very antithesis of conservative which holds prudence as its first virtue.

  • Semi-Strong Louisville, KY
    Oct. 18, 2013 7:30 a.m.

    Thank you Mr. Thomasson. I too remember those days. It was not that there was no partisanship, no struggle, no intensity. Just that folks could sometimes clear the smoke from the battlefield and see a way to carve out forward momentum.

    You did not like your opponent's views (and sometimes you did not like your opponent) but there was at least a modicum of respect and the acknowledgement that they too were doing what they thought was right (even if misguided by your own standards).

    We need that today. The understanding that those who oppose us are not evil, nor even stupid, just with a different view.

  • m.g. scott clearfield, UT
    Oct. 18, 2013 6:57 a.m.

    Hey Dan, write us when there will be NO more government crisis ahead. That would be news. We all see the mess coming from this administration and most in Congress. The thing we can't do is blame just this President or just this Congress. The big picture mess on the horizon has been the result of poor short sighted leadership in Washington D.C. for decades now. Going back to when the Congress decided to borrow money from the Social Security Trust Fund, to fund other projects. Now we have no trust fund and a 17 trillion dollar debt. People, even like Tip O'Neill, are probably spinning in their graves at the sight of that. If the big one happens, 9.5 on the economic Richter scale, at least Obama can launch New Deal 11 for the American people. "We Have Nothing To Fear, But Government Itself." You can quote me.

  • Mainly Me Werribee, 00
    Oct. 18, 2013 12:46 a.m.

    No DUH!