Utah Jazz: Jazz inexperience shows in another preseason loss to Blazers

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  • SWWeatherGuy South Weber, UT
    Oct. 18, 2013 7:27 p.m.

    It's hilarious and a little bit pathetic to hear some sway and base their opinion on single, meaningless games. Others make defining statements about player career potential or lack there of. Spoiler alert: none of us know jack concerning how players will fare this season, let alone throughout their career.

    Anyone with an ounce of sense knows this season will be frustrating and difficult, at times, and there's a good chance the JAZZ lose a bunch of games. It's a wholesale rebuilding and/or development year. In case the meaning of development is lost to anyone, that means there will be some growing pains. And best case for Trey is 4-6 weeks, worse case 8-12 weeks-- his season is far from lost!

    The beauty of this season is: the worse they do, the better off they are for improving talent next year. If they exceed (low) expectations, all the better; they're not as far off as most peg them to be. It's a great time to be a Jazz FAN!

  • Hugh G. Hater Swat Lake City, UT
    Oct. 18, 2013 11:51 a.m.

    Going to be a long season.

    No point guard.
    No go-to scorer on offense.
    No veteran leader.

    Gordon Hayward has not progressed. He disappeared in the playoff push last year and so far this year he has not shown to be the great white hope Dennis Lindsey proclaimed him to be at the end of last season (did all of you forget that already?).

  • fortydam OREM, UT
    Oct. 18, 2013 7:43 a.m.

    I'm not turning, just my same old rants as last year. (shaybo) I think McGuire will stick, especially with Trey landing on the DL. McGuire didn't play because of a tweaked ankle. Gobert and Clark have already made the team and, I'm sure they will get some minutes when they find out who to keep. I think the starting squad can play with most teams, but who is the second unit? Right now that could be scary. Jefferson might have to play with the second bunch just to calm them down. If Evans is going to play he has got to figure out the rotations on defense, he was lost all night, tends to try and block from behind after getting beat. He reminds me of Carey Scurry, same build, same game, the crowd would get all fired up when he came in for several flashy plays. In the end he was an uber athlete that couldn't play basketball.

  • Thriller Saint George, UT
    Oct. 17, 2013 5:45 p.m.

    Wow, maybe that win over Golden State was a mistake. All summer long we knew the Jazz would struggle this year and we were okay with it. Now, having seen a brief flash of brilliance to open up the preseason, it seems the fan base is turning. Losing a close game in the fourth quarter shouldn't surprise anyone here.

    Let's not forget Hayward is 23 years old. 23 years old! And you're expecting him to be the go-to guy on a successful NBA team? Not gonna happen anytime soon. I know he has a few years experience under his belt but not in this role.

    We need patience, it's going to take a year or two just to evaluate whether or not our players are any good, much less make any noise in the West.

  • Bigshugs Pleasant Grove, UT
    Oct. 17, 2013 12:49 p.m.

    I don't think this game was a matter of "experience". Damian Lillard has only played one year in the NBA and Gordan Hayward has played three. The less experienced player made plays down the stretch, the other did not.

  • goforit Provo, UT
    Oct. 17, 2013 12:18 p.m.

    Kanter will be the best player of the Jazz core. Favors will be a great defender, rebounder, but his offensive game brings him back to a role player. Hayward is another good role player, Burks will be good some games but awful others, he will never be as good as Bryon Russell, Burke will be a Howard Eisley type of point guard.

    This team needs more than most people think to ever contend. It just isn't going to happen.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Oct. 17, 2013 11:55 a.m.

    The lone preseason win had me equivocating on the 30 win season...

    The recent losses have re-convinced me JAZZ fans are on the doorstep of a monumental losing season.

    The players do have the courage to take the shot in crunch time...

    However... making the shot continues to be a seldom solved mystery...

  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    Oct. 17, 2013 11:27 a.m.

    If Corbin is not going to play Gobert or Clark because they are locked in to contracts why is he playing Jefferson and Biedrens? What happened to "were going with the youth"? Is Corbin going back to his old ways? The best looking player of the bubble guys is McGuire, if he is the one they are planning to keep he should be playing and getting the team chemistry experience in the games.

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    Oct. 17, 2013 9:01 a.m.

    I agree with your comments with the exception of Evans. Evans is known for his jumping and dunking ability but he showed in summer league and the Golden State game that he has an outside jumper. He had a nice double double in that Golden State game and I think he will warm up again given the opportunity to play. Burks needs to learn when to pull it back and work for a better shot rather than go flying hap hazard into the lane with no outlet. I think if he can do that he will be a good player. He definitely makes things happen when he plays, but it's not always good things happening. I wish Corbin would play Gobert and Clark more. They have roster spots and need to develop while some of these other guys are taking minutes and won't be around. I know Corbin needs to see what these other guys can do too so I'm holding back on ripping him for awhile. We definitely need a strong point guard and it's such a shame Trey is out for awhile.

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    Oct. 17, 2013 8:01 a.m.

    Growing pains. They happen. Can't move forward without them.

  • fortydam OREM, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 11:44 p.m.

    My feelings haven't changed in over a year on these players. Hayward has to prove he can hit the open jumper, although the rest of his game is great. Kanter is a beast and could average 20/10. Favors is a five not a four and must get a back to the basket game. Burks is very athletic, but sometimes he's below average, and if you think he can be a point guard you're fooling yourself. Evans is a waste of a roster spot, lost on defense and has bricks for hands, less than a "one trick pony". The new Jefferson must step up and help, he's better than this. I am still waiting for Ian Clarke, I guess they are still trying to figure who to keep, Ian has a contract. I know Ian can out shoot and defend any of these guards. Without a point guard, this team will have a hard time developing.