Utahns weigh in on Count My Vote initiative

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  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 5:27 p.m.

    Count My Vote is nothing but the Republican Elite crying about Bob Bennett getting the boot. All you have to do to remind yourself that it was Bennett's time to go is to recall his words, "I've lost my career." Yep Bob, if you considered your Senate seat to be a career, then you didn't have the best interests of those that elected you at heart.

    Without the caucus system, we would not have had Mia Love. We'd have had Wimmer instead who would have lost really big to Matheson. Now that Mia has some name recognition, she may well beat Matheson and his trying to play both sides of the same coin.

    Without the caucus system we'd have had who knows how many more years of Frank Moss. Hatch used the caucus system to his advantage way back then to defeat way better known Republicans. Hatch wouldn't have had a prayer in a direct primary.

    If people don't vote, that is their problem. The Count My Vote people won't change that.

    Watch for increased participation in three years when Lee is up for re-election.

  • Utah_1 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 17, 2013 12:55 p.m.

    Yes, 120,000 "radicals" took over the caucus and we get Sen. Hatch for 6 more years.

    OK, perhaps those supporters of Sen. Hatch were radicals, but many wouldn't agree.

    In 1946, the Deseret News said it wanted to get rid of a direct primary that we had tried for 10 years. It had a run off system back then which had very bad voter turnout. It didn't want to get rid of the runoff else we could be taken over by crooks. (their words). It wanted a combo of the caucus system and a primary with the caucus system making sure we didn't need a run off.

    Count My Vote has exactly the system the Deseret News warned could be taking over by the rich in 1946. Perhaps they have forgotten, or were not alive.

  • HBZion Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 17, 2013 10:17 a.m.

    I support the initiative. In the past, I have been elected a republican state delegate in my neighborhood caucus, but feel it is time a broader viewpoint is heard. A primary would help the majority rule. Now a small group of radicals can take over the caucus system and end up shutting down the greatest government on earth. This has not worked out well for our beloved country.

  • Evets Eagle Mountain, UT
    Oct. 17, 2013 9:19 a.m.

    Count My Vote is a scheme by the progressives to control power. I love the caucus system and have attended everyone since I moved to Utah 13 years ago. Every meeting is packed full of people from my neighborhood. It is standing room only. We get to discuss candidates and pick delegates that represent our views.

  • Prodicus Provo, UT
    Oct. 17, 2013 1:02 a.m.

    By "phoney scheme to punish those who pay attention to politics" DNSub2 apparently means anything that allows people other than the so-called "informed elite" to have a meaningful opportunity to vote for their representatives. Who's "informed"? Well, if you disagree with him on political issues, you are eo ipso a "low-information voter" who richly deserves to be disenfranchised.

    The caucus system in Utah is a miserably broken farce. The majority of the voters in this state want their state back and will be glad to see meaningful elections again. The vocal minority who have disproportionate power in the current system are of course going to vociferously oppose any attempt at reform.

  • Utah_1 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 17, 2013 12:02 a.m.

    Utah's Neighborhood Elections force candidates to pay attention to rural areas of Utah. Direct primaries encourage candidates to ignore rural areas and communicate only by paid advertising. A direct primary would create fly-over areas of Utah that will rarely get to meet their candidates face to face.

    We have a system that that does NOT favor the incumbent, the wealthy or the famous. This is a good thing, and should be preserved.

    The Neighborhood Election and Convention system in Utah is the best way to make sure a grassroots process can win over large amounts of money. It is the only way someone with $100,000 can go against someone with $2 million in election funds.

  • Utah_1 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 17, 2013 12:01 a.m.

    As you know from 2008 to 2010 neighborhood election meeting attendance doubled. From 2010 to 2012, meeting attendance doubled again. There is hope that in 2014, it will double again and 250,000 will attend. I know that The State GOP has a committee that is working to make sure we don't have the same growth problems for 2014 and that the system can handle the volume of those interested and still allow time to meet candidates and ask

    New proposals for 2014 include a better system for check in, including optional preregistration. The ability to optionally pre-file to run to represent your neighbors as well. The meeting will be designed to last for 2 hrs. or less, from 7pm to 9pm. There will be a pre-meeting from 6pm to 7pm to allow you to personally meet candidates to represent your neighborhood that have decided to run and for you to ask one on one questions. Even with large groups, changes to make sure members can agree on questions to ask neighborhood representative candidates with more time to hear from them.

    I hope you will come again in 2014 and make the meeting better.

  • victoryordeath Davis, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 11:50 p.m.

    Count My Vote wants to TAKE AWAY your vote at your Neighborhood Election! We have a unique political system that forces our elected officials to be accountable to the people of Utah! Tell me in what other state will you have a US Senator or Governor show up and hold a cottage meeting in your home? If we go the way of Primaries we lose access to our elected officials and will only see them in a TV commercial. Why let the Big Money Brokers behind County My Vote change and control the future of our political system? Tell CMV NO thank you to their petition; you want to KEEP your Vote in your Neighborhood Election.

  • play by the rules SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 11:33 p.m.

    Agreed. No respect for Norm Bangerter he is a liberal Republican at best.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 10:33 p.m.

    It is too bad these high paid people are pushing for a system that may have kept them and their cronies in power. Freedom Works wants to have this type of system with their outside money and influence with national elections and Glenn Beck at their side.

  • DN Subscriber 2 SLC, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 8:44 p.m.

    Keep the caucus system!

    "Count my vote" is a scheme by the power broker elites with deep pockets, and their media allies who stand to profit handsomely from all the political ads needed for primaries, to take away the opportunity for voters to actively scrutinize candidates before elections.

    Having thousands more voters who have no idea about a candidate or their stand on issues other than a vague impression from sheer name recognition, or some slick, deceptive TV ad does not get us better elected officials.

    Caucuses allow neighborhood groups to meet candidates, and for their elected delegates to further scrutinize candidates before voting at the local or state convention. If a candidate is not the clear choice of a large majority, there will be a primary to make the final selection.

    Keep the caucus system! And, show up if you care, instead of signing a petition for a phoney scheme to punish those who pay attention to politics.