TE Matt Bushman on commit to BYU: 'I've always wanted to play there growing up'

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  • catanimuss Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 17, 2013 1:25 p.m.

    "When was Utah ever good at football?"


    There you go again, leaving out the truth. Every time a y "fan" says something like that, they are REALLY taking a shot at Utah's down decade or two and to last season. But if we look at the first 50 years of football that BYU will admit to, Utah was dominant.

    - From 1922 through the 1971 season, Utah's record was 296-167-21, a 64% winning record, 19 conference championships, and 3 bowl games.
    - During that same time period, BYU's record was 173-235-26, a 42% winning record, 1 conference championship and no bowl games.
    - Utah dominated the head-to-head, 38-5-4.

    Yes, that 1984 Y team backed into a national championship. That Y fans still crow it about grates on Ute fans. Yet that was the only undefeated season the Y has had in its entire football history. Utah has had 4 in since 1922, 2 in the last 10 years. And, need I remind you of the whole BCS, Pac-12, 9-of-12, 5-of-6, 4-in-a-row thing?

    The "truth" is BYU may NEVER be dominant again in football.

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Oct. 17, 2013 11:15 a.m.

    P.S. Jamaal Williams chose BYU over Utah
    Yes the Utes offered someone who came to BYU.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Oct. 17, 2013 10:37 a.m.

    BeSmart is quoting Tom Holmoe & a little network called ESPN, maybe you've heard of it. BYU was listed as the 9th most nationally televised program in the country. Not sure Utah is anywhere to be found on that list, or that anyone even cares if they are. I just spoke with a good friend from Tennessee who's also a Georgia Bulldog fan like me. He confirmed what I already knew....I quote, "Stanford was over-rated getting beat by a mountain west team like Utah". LOL! He didn't watch the game so obviously he missed the logos on the field, but the point is, no one cares about Utah outside the state, and apparently don't even know you're playing in the big boy sand box now.


  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Oct. 17, 2013 9:21 a.m.

    belligerent comments by either side about stats and assumptions. It's quite comical.
    Just learn to respect one another this is crazy.
    Go utes and cougs

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Oct. 17, 2013 9:20 a.m.

    Statement from tv stats experts
    BYU 9 most views college football team since 2011-2012
    Does not mean a national brand but people are watching.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 9:37 p.m.

    I think it's safe to say that espn recruiting service doesn't share the same glowing outlook on the future of Utah football. By scouts & ESPNs services the trend is upward for BYU and downward for Utah. In fact if the current trend continues, this may be Utah's worst recruiting class since announcing it's new PAC12 membership. What?...you mean winning in a big conferences matters, not just the PAC12 logo on the field. Who would have thought.


  • Ed Grady Idaho Falls, ID
    Oct. 16, 2013 8:22 p.m.

    My, my, my. A certain Utah fan is really taking this news hard.

  • Atrix Vancouver, WA
    Oct. 16, 2013 7:19 p.m.

    Not that stars matter but lets look at the 2015 recruiting class since 2014 has already been touched on.

    4 stars= 2 committed
    3 stars= 1 committed

    0 Commits

    Seems to me BYU's recruiting is going up and good players are committing early. I guess Utah has to wait until the other PAC teams pick over the players and the Utes pick up the scraps.

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Oct. 16, 2013 4:04 p.m.

    Why are you so stick on recruiting?
    I work in math, the more you have gone on about it the more I find out the argument comes down to 1-3 percentage points.
    Congrats you have won the recruiting classes. Just saying 1-3 percent is not a lot.

  • souptwins Lindon, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 3:37 p.m.

    All this back and forth is ridiculous. We all know that Texas, USC, & Stanford out recruits most teams, yet they all have losses to those with far less stellar recruiting ratings. Of course, every school tries to get the best recruits but it doesn't guarantee wins. Utah just proved that and BYU proved it last month. Some people are desperate for a spitting contest.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 3:30 p.m.

    He will be awesome six stars before he is done with playing. He will totally donimate PAC weak teams because he works harder and we are high levels of execution.
    Tons of awesome TDs and first Downs will be catched.

  • Black&Blue St George, Utah
    Oct. 16, 2013 1:37 p.m.

    I also found it interesting that of BYU's 16 commitments only 2 come from the state of Utah. And of Utah's 12 commitments 7 of those are in-state recruits.

    .....Makes you wonder who has the National Brand...?

  • Black&Blue St George, Utah
    Oct. 16, 2013 1:02 p.m.

    I also find it interesting that only 2 of BYUs 16 commitments are from the great state of Utah.

    While 7 of the 12 University of Utah commits are instate recruits.

    ...Makes you wonder who has the national brand...?

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Oct. 16, 2013 12:56 p.m.

    thanks Black & Blue for being respectful to everyone.
    Go Utah Schools

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Oct. 16, 2013 11:40 a.m.

    Just a few number from 247 sports
    Utah 2011-2014 average recruit-84.19 remove utahs outlier (83.67)
    BYU 2011-2014 average recruit-81.12 remove BYU outlier (81.9)
    UCLA 2011-2014 avg. 86.8 remove outlier (88)
    USC 2011-2014 avg. 91.6 remove outlier (93)
    outlier removed was the value farthest from the mean.
    Utah best recruiting year was 2011. BYUs best this year (last year was way off the mean).
    So by ranking philosophy: so on a 99 ranking. BYU is 3.07 percent lower than Utah.
    Utah 2.61 below UCLA, and 7.41 below USC.
    I may be mistaking but Utah still has around 13 scholarships for next year so they could go up or down (after analyzing 247 sports list of Utah offers and athletes considering utah, probably down)
    BYU class is almost complete (after analyzing outstanding scholarship offers, and the athletes considering BYU will probably trend upward)
    UCLA and USC did not go as in depth. my guess is UCLA will trend upward and USC downward.
    I believe the outlier is a more accurate number to eliminate unique qualities in the numbers)
    There are the statistics of recruiting

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Oct. 16, 2013 11:36 a.m.

    More top 25 ranking
    Apparently the Pac-12 doesnt care about titles anymore.
    last one disputed 2004

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Oct. 16, 2013 9:43 a.m.

    How much does the honor code affect recruiting?
    I wonder what BYUs classes would look like if they could offer to anyone.
    Nobody knows but a good question to think about.

  • Cletus from Coalville Coalville, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 9:36 a.m.

    No worry because we really didnt want him anyhow because he doesnt have enough stars and cant win anyboby without more stars. And he wouldn't do good in our awsome bcs power conference without stars like us.

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Oct. 16, 2013 9:31 a.m.

    Recruiting battles this year BYU 4 Utah 1,
    Currently Utah has offered 133 scholarships for 12 commits.
    BYU has offered 37 for 15 commits.
    Yes Utah has a better star ranking this year. But may have to fill out their class with 2-star or less players. Most higher stars player offered have committed elsewhere, or barely looking at playing for the Utes.
    5 more 3 star recruits Utah has a shot at.
    from 247 sports
    Good luck all Utah Schools.
    Trolls are annoying

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Oct. 16, 2013 9:27 a.m.

    @lifelong Ute
    I don't thing EdGrady is talking the whole class there have been comments that Utah is getting most or all LDS recruits he was just showing that is not true.
    PS. look at recruiting services Utah may have a hard time filling out the recruiting class with their current offers.

  • Lifelong Ute Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 9:22 a.m.

    @EdGrady - Bragging about a single recruit is like a team who brags about winning a single quarter in a football game but loses the game. Call us when you out recruit Utah in a full recruiting class.

  • Ed Grady Idaho Falls, ID
    Oct. 16, 2013 9:00 a.m.

    "The 6-foot-6, 215-pound prospect considered offers from such schools as Arizona, Utah, ..."

    Wait! How can this be? I thought Utah was slurping up all the good LDS recruits. I thought Utah was winning ALL the recruiting battles with BYU. I thought Utah's Pac-10.2 membership gave them the upper hand with all recruits.

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Oct. 16, 2013 8:49 a.m.

    yeah it was a great pickup. Utah also got a good commit the day after the Stanford game.