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  • Mike in Sandy Sandy, UT
    Oct. 17, 2013 10:43 a.m.

    We have to vote out as many republicans as possible.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 5:49 p.m.

    I think part of the root cause is the amount of money it takes to get elected, and to whom a politician must sell their soul to get it. The people vote, but it is not to them that the elected are beholden. Every issue, be it guns, health care, tobacco, or whatever has money behind it trying to gain influence. Far and away, most of these interests are contrary to the wishes or best interests of the people that the system should serve first. I don't know what the answer is.I do believe the system was never designed to withstand the resources thrown into some campaigns now. Unless we can restrict campaigns or donations to dollar limits, I think the voice of the people will seldom be heard in the future of the process. I worry this can't be done.

  • samhill Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 5:11 p.m.

    Roger states that, "If these legislators were working in the private sector, 90 percent of them would be fired."

    Never fear Roger, many, if not most of the people in government "leadership", including their aides, PR hacks, "advisers" of various sorts, etc., spend their time in government with the heady expectation that they will eventually "monetize" their Washington time by selling their influence TO the private sector.

    Everyone should read the book, "This Town: Two Parties and a Funeral-Plus, Plenty of Valet Parking!-in America's Gilded Capital", by Mark Leibovich. He's a long-time Washington correspondent for several news agencies, currently The New York Times Magazine. The book describes the rampant corruption that permeates virtually every level and sector of Washington. I'm almost finished with it and I'm very sorry to say it confirms every sick sense I've had about the Federal government over the years.

    I'm convinced there are very decent, intelligent and well-intentioned people who strive to get elected so they can do their best to clean things up and set things straight. I also know that they **almost** all are eventually corrupted by the power-mongering and influence peddling.

  • ugottabkidn Sandy, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 11:33 a.m.

    Please don't fail to give proper credit where credit is due. Don't forget Rob Bishop's role in the House malfeasance. He stays in the shadows but he was a major player in the Government shutdown. Do you hear that all you federal employees in Ogden?

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    Oct. 16, 2013 10:54 a.m.

    The whole idea of "districting" isn't in the Constitution. Why do it? Why not have all representatives elected at large?

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 9:49 a.m.

    If there was such a thing as Government Science and a person could major in that throughout his education, would he be better prepared to represent his constituents than his counterpart educated and trained in business or other science?

    The curriculum for such would be open to public scrutiny and influenced by sacred documents and public wishes. Of course that might inject a little bit of democracy.

    If a person was guaranteed a proper career for his lifetime, would he be less susceptible to the temptations of the unscrupulous and less likely to throw the people of the nation under the bus for personal gain.

    Elections would still be the determining factor in upward progress but a person could only be fired for criminal actions.

    Would such a person be better or worse than someone who gets a temporary turn at having power over others?

  • Kent C. DeForrest Provo, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 9:42 a.m.

    It is not enough to "throw the rascals out." Not if we just replace them with new rascals. We must replace every member of our Congressional delegation with candidates who will promise to avoid extremism, vow to work together with those of the other party to get things done, and take realistic, moderate views that reflect the views of the majority of the country, which is becoming increasingly unaffiliated politically because of the absurdities they see on both the right and the left. So, Utah, are you willing to do this? The last thing we need is six more Mike Lees or Jason Chattetzes in Washington.

  • KDave Moab, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 9:19 a.m.

    You missed 1 off your count.

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 9:18 a.m.

    Previously a part of the employment contract in private enterprise forbade employment by another business, especially a business competitor. That never applied to government employment although the pledges and oaths seemed to require it, it is very seldom enforced.

    Our representatives in government are likely to act as the employees of private interests who pay them much more than the government and provides a more dependable career.