Utah may spend another $7M to keep national parks open

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  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 9:14 p.m.

    The tea party should be required to fund this bill.

  • wrz Phoenix, AZ
    Oct. 16, 2013 11:58 a.m.

    Seven million???

    All that's needed to keep parks open is a couple a people at the gate to collect fees. And the fees should easily cover their (obscene) wages.

  • HBZion Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 10:29 a.m.

    I helped elect our representatives to govern. I want governments operating, not shutdown. Governor Herbert is doing a good job in keeping the parks open. Those of our congressional delegation who are responsible for the shut down need to be held accountable. Can Utah find rational republicans that will promise to govern, rather than shut down government? I believe we can find better representation and I would gladly donate to campaigns that make it a priority to keep government operating.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 10:06 a.m.

    I think this is a great idea and will only help. Our family (we're local to Utah) had to cancel our annual fall break trip to Arches because it was still closed. Since we're local we're small potatoes but this cancellation still cost the area about $800 for our weekend. What a shame that Moab lost out on those dollars. For the state to keep the parks open was a no-brainer and what a good thing that we're in a good economic position to be able to pay for this. I also love that our state leadership was very forward thinking in approaching the President for this ability.

  • techpubs Sioux City, IA
    Oct. 16, 2013 9:41 a.m.

    Since the Federal Gov't will not allow the States to use their own personnel to open the parks I think it is only fair that the States get to keep 75% of the fees collected by the Park Rangers.

    And shame on the Federal Gov't for saying they can't afford to keep the Parks open, but they can afford to pay people to install blockades and man them to prevent anyone from entering.

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 8:35 a.m.

    The taxpayer has already paid for the operation and maintenance of national parks and monuments. It is the people of business interests that have stopped the payment of money by the government of obligations previously made and the use of money already collected.

    Now the state wants to collect money to pay for those things that the state is preventing the federal government from paying. The purpose of which is to prevent businesses who depend on the taxpayer funded and owned to lose any profits.

    Shame on those people that put business profits above the wealth fare of people. Shame on those who think that just because they are part of the people who own the public lands that they can use those lands as if they belonged only to themselves. Shame on those people who use people as gun fodder in their quest for gold.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 8:30 a.m.

    @DNSub2: Who caused this ask Jason?
    Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), presiding over the chamber, told Van Hollen that the rule he was asking to use had been "altered" and he did not have the privilege of bringing that vote to the floor. In the ensuing back and forth, Chaffetz said the recently passed House Resolution 368 trumped the standing rules. Where any member of the House previously could have brought the clean resolution to the floor under House Rule 22, House Resolution 368 -- passed on the eve of the shutdown -- gave that right exclusively to the House majority leader, Rep. Eric Cantor of Virginia.
    "The Rules Committee, under the rules of the House, changed the standing rules of the House to take away the right of any member to move to vote to open the government, and gave that right exclusively to the Republican Leader," said Van Hollen. "Is that right?"
    "The House adopted that resolution," replied Chaffetz.

    The government is not parted out by republican decree, or is it?

  • andyjaggy American Fork, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 8:28 a.m.

    I had a trip planned to Zion the first part of November, if the park is closed my money will not be spent there on lodging, food, and equipment rentals. Economically it's really pretty simple.

  • rawlshea1 salt lake city, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 7:06 a.m.

    The state of Utah paying to reopen the National Parks is by analogy like a neighbor who is use to driving a Prius and suddenly is able to borrow her neighbors Corvette. The thrill is momentary until the borrower has to pay for maintenance and up keep. The National Park Service has a strong tradition of serving the public and protecting our national heritage. This tradition which must be maintained for future generations comes at a high cost, a cost the State of Utah can't afford on a continuing basis.
    I hope the nose of this camel under the tent isn't used as a reference point for the Lee extremist, including the Governor, who will say with a perfectly straight face, we can manage national assets locally. Again, it would similar to a new pilot having gotten his pilot's license in a Piper Cub boarding a 747 with passengers and demanding to fly it. It just isn't safe to take off.
    Let's be sane.

  • Curmudgeon Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 5:37 a.m.

    Millions to subsidize local businesses, but nothing to help poor families. Whatever happened to free enterprise and keeping government out of business? We don't want government control, but we're sure willing to accept government money. Typical Republican skewed priorities and hypocrisy.

  • phantomblade Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 15, 2013 11:53 p.m.

    justme001,Kings Court

    Silly, short-sighted comments from both of you. Businesses provide jobs which help families provide food, clothing and shelter for babies and children, so parents can provide for themselves instead of having to rely on government assistance.

  • DN Subscriber 2 SLC, UT
    Oct. 15, 2013 11:03 p.m.

    I am glad to see the parks open, and had Harry Reid and Obama accepted the funding repeatedly passed by the House Republicans, state funds would not be needed. Let's make sure we put the blame where it belongs.

    However, in reality, this is just the state of Utah paying ransom to the demands of bullies in Washington, or their minions following orders in the field. While it may have been appropriate to close the manned visitor centers, etc, it was totally unnecessary to waste even more money blocking off roads and having the militarized park rangers stationed there to block public access.

    The legislature needs to come up with a tax on federal agencies (only) to recoup the cost of keeping the parks open.

    To the two posters above, when the state keeps the parks open, that promotes business, and earnings, and taxes, which then help pay for all the welfare handouts. Meanwhile, I encourage you to make voluntary contributions to the welfare agencies to support those who really need WIC. And, maybe fight for better policing of welfare eligibility so limited tax dollars only go to the truly needy, not ineligible scammers.

  • Kings Court Alpine, UT
    Oct. 15, 2013 8:53 p.m.

    justme001, when a business suffers, the state will come to the rescue. They aren't going to come to the rescue of a baby. Babies don't contribute money to political campaigns.

  • justme001 Salt Lake, UT
    Oct. 15, 2013 8:06 p.m.

    Instead of funding the parks why are we not funding WIC? is that not more important?

  • travelrus murray, UT
    Oct. 15, 2013 7:27 p.m.

    I would hope our elected State Representatives are calling on our Washington Senators and Congressmen to end the completely unnecessary shut down of our country. Our State elected representatives should be held accountable for the mess we are in each and every one of them. If it weren't for their political staging we wouldn't need to fund the Utah National Parks. The billions of dollars that these guy's have cost our country is unforgivable.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Oct. 15, 2013 7:18 p.m.

    I was glad to spend some time at Capitol Reef this past weekend. I also know that the communities of Torrey, Moab and Springdale will appreciate our governor's efforts to help their local economies by getting these places open. I thought this was good leadership by the governor. Instead of whining he acted and came up with a solution to help his state.

    I still do hope that our state will either get reimbursed for its costs or that it gets to keep the fees collected during the shutdown. That seems fair.