Utah leaders cautiously optimistic debt ceiling question will be resolved before deadline

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  • Bruce A. Frank San Jose, CA
    Oct. 15, 2013 12:44 p.m.

    There is no moderation in DC. It's either Obama's, Ried's,and Pelosi's way or the highway. First of all, the US will not default because there is more than enough money coming in to service the debt. But, just as Obama has made every move to make the current "shutdown" as unnecessarily painful as possible, he is likely to unlawfully order cessation of payments to make his point. Few seem aware that Obama has broken Federal law by closing monuments and national parks. Even fewer are aware that he has also unlawfully blockaded and closed private resorts and historic sites that resemble Federal facilities.

    Second, Obamacare is intended to, and will, collapse both the US fiscal solvency and the health care system in our country. The Left drinks the Koolaid and the Right is inept at using the full power of their franchise under the Constitution. Lee and Cruz should be praised to high heaven for bringing these destructive events into public light. If Obamacare fully engages it will be so entwined in US society that Communist Russia or Hitler's Germany, at their worst, will be thought of as relative nirvana.

  • Woodyff Mapleton, UT
    Oct. 15, 2013 9:11 a.m.

    I find it interesting that the people commenting seem to think compromise is when the Republicans agree with the Democrats. Compromise is not always the right thing to do and sometimes it takes a true Statesman to stand on principle and act in the best interest of the people. Supports of Bennett need to get over it, he lost because he didn't respect the wishes of the people. Hey 'migraine', you are giving me a headache!

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 15, 2013 9:09 a.m.

    Even though our Senator Lee is not a statesman, the President is far from using diplomacy and being a statesman in his job for 5 years. We used to refer to other nations as third world but we have slipped into 4th world as a country with real diplomacy. To have a Secretary of State that did what he did in the 1970s go around the world as our ambassador is another embarrassment for our country.

    I want good politics and we are not getting that from either party. John Kerry leaves to give way to Mike Lee to surface is a one for one trade?

  • ute alumni paradise, UT
    Oct. 15, 2013 8:54 a.m.

    and your boy speaks as a statesman? really

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 15, 2013 8:52 a.m.

    Senator Lee speaks out in ways that are not as a statesman or diplomat for our state even though he speaks as many Utah legislators do, not positive for our government. He wants to be a Rambo and force his fellow Senator and persuade Congress members to do what he wants, not by conscience but by forcing them.

    The eternal principle of agency is missing in his formula. He has sat on the sidelines for his term so far and then jumps in to get face time in the national media on the shirttails of Senator Cruz. This is not a diplomatic move nor with class.

    I have lived in countries where this type of action happens but not by an elected official that is supposed to have a high demeanor and act as a statesman. Senator Bennett was a Statesman just like his father was. Did he do everything correct. Probably not or he would not have lost to Mike Lee in the caucus with some undermining tactics in the precincts. Congressman Stewart probably used similar tactics in the Convention for his position with all the controversy and the State party leader not delving in deep enough.

  • migraine Indianapolis, IN
    Oct. 15, 2013 7:23 a.m.

    Republicans need to decide to be responsible stewards again before anyone will be able to trust them. So much of our financial stability depends on other countries' investors believing we are stable and responsible with our money...yet somehow Congress has decided to run a Mack truck through that credibility. Dems shouldn't need to make concessions just so that the Reps will open the govt and pay for it.

    If the Reps want to accomplish useful progress, they should spend time writing laws that they can convince both houses of Congress and the President to sign. Otherwise they're just wasting time shouting at the mirror.

  • DVD Taylorsville, 00
    Oct. 15, 2013 6:17 a.m.

    The Republican (and Democrat) strategy of redistricting to secure seats in the house has contributed to this. This is one of the results of gerrymandering.

    The other is the Republican Tea Party strategy of getting only the extreme votes in 2010 and some in 2012 as well. Utah (via the LDS church) showed how to defeat this with the Lillenquist - Hatch primary in 2012. Get the mass of voters actually participating in the primary process and you get a more moderate result.

    The ones standing against compromise because they fear a primary could do well to see their way back into office by doing what Utah did last year and positioning themselves to benefit by showing moderation. No compromise - no democracy.