College credit doesn't depend on seat time anymore

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  • Jewell in the Crown Spanish Fork, UT
    Oct. 23, 2013 7:46 a.m.

    I've been going to a complelely online public college (Thomas Edison State College in New Jersey) for the past 4 months in order to finish my bachelor's degree. I'm having to WORK now that I'm past the few easy classes that didn't transfer in. I wouldn't call it substandard by any means.

  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    Oct. 22, 2013 4:13 a.m.

    Sub standard eduction has become the order of the century. In the thousands of years that organized eduction has been around when it created masters and brilliant creative minds they have shrunk it all down to degrees printed on rolls of toilet paper which as but one use.

    Education is a financial industry windfall that has proven to be worthless eduction. I have no respect for education anymore, its about money not knowledge, learning, interaction or training. Its just the money and poor excuse to grant any of these students any kind of degree other than a GED.

    Colleges that once relied on benefactors and alumni for funding with strict standards for students to apply for college has just become a money machine waiving everything a higher education stands for to profiteer millions of dollars in federal aid to colleges with no accountability or responsibility to the word and idea of education.

  • EJM Herriman, UT
    Oct. 16, 2013 10:38 a.m.

    I have no problem with testing for competences. You still have to spend some amount of "time" to develop the skill sets to earn those competencies. Many people want something for nothing, however. I see it more often in today's public education system. Articles like this make it seem like this new system is prevalent and that anyone can do it. Not true. Most don't have the drive to "teach" themselves anything. Well, I stand corrected. Most will do anything to get on TV.

  • suess Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 15, 2013 10:37 a.m.

    This would be ideal for my daughter. She's a single mom, worked part time to attend school on grants, scholarships, and loans. Just when she was about to receive her degree, only learned she needed "1 more class" but with requirements on the grants, etc., would end up having to take meaningless classes to satisfy that "one more class" which would then be, "well the pre-requisite class has expired, so you will have to take both of them over". Needless to say, she got tired of the runaround she was getting, and thinks it was so the college could just get more money from the system, so she's now quit school for the present, working two part time jobs so she can pay for the classes out of pocket so the school can no longer get the money from grants, etc. with making her take useless classes. She can only take so many golf classes, and art, sign language, dance, bowling, etc., and math over and over, (even though she passes them) rather than just the basics she needs. You know, all of those required for a diploma that make you a "well rounded individual".

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Oct. 15, 2013 10:09 a.m.

    XelaDave - I agree with you completely. What you know has nothing to do with how many hours your posterior sat behind some desk. It is about competency... not hours spent. If a student can express a mastery of a subject, the number of hours spent in classroom is meaningless.

    The old education system is dying a slow and painful death. Reading a book doesn't mean you know anything. A body of work shows how a subject has been internalized... not hours spent filling space in a room.

    There are lots of ways to learn... extra-classroom stuff is usually much more effective.

  • XelaDave Salem, UT
    Oct. 15, 2013 8:23 a.m.

    The piece seems to assume that any credit based system is not competency based as well- that somehow if one earns credit that this means there was no competency based assessment in the course- what a simplistic argument- but then again when you go to sell a product you have to convince everyone you have something new and the old stuff is worthless- might want to check a few of those assumptions prior to spending your money at many of the institutions mentioned here- but also check the traditional places- they are not beyond improvement as well

  • Max Charlotte, NC
    Oct. 15, 2013 2:05 a.m.

    The race to the bottom begins. Anything to attract students and make a buck. However, lowering standards (sorry but that is what it is no matter how you dress it up) will cause most employers to check carefully what kind of program a student was in and this is something that students really need to consider.