Public education's job: creating self-sufficient people

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  • Coach P Provo, UT
    Oct. 12, 2013 10:41 a.m.

    I'm going to blow you all away. I've taught school for 25 years and most of my students have turned out alright. Even the ones that didn't get the best grades. Some have had some bumps in the road, some have had some ups and downs and trials and tribulations. But for the most part, they made it in life. They find jobs, get married, raise children, pay taxes and mostly obey the law. I don't think we're as doomed as one thinks...

  • trueblue87 Provo, UT
    Oct. 12, 2013 9:24 a.m.

    Anyone else notice that they used a photo of a private school graduation for a public school article?


  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Oct. 12, 2013 9:06 a.m.


    "Self-sufficient" and "self-reliant", doesn't mean dependence.

    IMO, it's means being responsible, and intelligent with the resources around you.

  • justamacguy Manti, UT
    Oct. 12, 2013 8:59 a.m.

    The terms "self-sufficient" or "self-reliant" means you are a contributor, not government supported dregs. The current K-12 system has fallen into a wonderful "Dr. Spock" attitude that everyone is special and no one is a loser. That is not real life and not the habit of the business world. While looking for ways to give the best education possible students must also learn that reward comes from achievement. It's not right to tell a student he is good at science because that is what he likes when he really an achiever at mechanics is not beneficial to his long term success for happiness.

    Also parenting is a 24-7 job that never ends. It is not a secondary responsibility. Children are not like some half-wanted pet that can be disposed of by pawning them of on the Humane Society. They are a lifelong commitment that you mold into your best achievement with love and understanding.

  • Prodicus Provo, UT
    Oct. 11, 2013 7:33 p.m.

    We use the terms "self-sufficient" and "self-reliant" too frequently around here. This tends to produce selfishness, arrogance, antisociality, disdain for those who are different, and denying benefits to others while ignoring the benefits we receive ourselves.

    "Self-sufficiency" is only the illusory hubris of the Greek tragic hero or of the people in the Biblical cautionary tale who thought they could get to heaven through their bricklaying ability.

    No man is an island. We must recognize and remember our dependence and reliance on others and express gratitude. We depend on God, to whom we owe all we have and are, whose mercy and grace sustain us, to whom we pray for daily bread. We depend on those who went before us, whose heritage gives us identity and possibility. We depend on our fellow men in countless ways.

    Prudence, personal responsibility, and provident living are vitally important principles. When we talk about being "self-sufficient" or "self-reliant" the intended message often really deals with those true principles. We need to be careful lest the false terminology subvert the truth of the message.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Oct. 11, 2013 3:50 p.m.

    Like so many places,--the entire school district of Dallas Texas now has free meals for all students.

    How do you create self-sufficient people when they grow up seeing their parent/s, not being able to feed them, and collect from the government?